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    Quote Originally Posted by JanMM View Post
    Schwinn's electroforged beasts were made of 1010 steel, not 1020/Hi-Ten steel. http://sheldonbrown.com/varsity.html
    Why no mention of the made-in-Japan LeTour and related Schwinn bikes? I took up cycling with a Continental but got totally hooked on a LeTour which was pretty nice once I equipped it with aluminum wheels.
    Sting-Rays? Kids toys that didn't exist when I was a kid.
    I saw an electroforged beast on the sidewalk placed right with the garbage. It was just my size but when I tried to pick it up, that thing weighted about 40 lbs! I could not believe how heavy that bike was. It had two flats so there was no way I was going to carry this bike home. The garbage truck took it away.

    Several years ago, I purchased a Chicago Schwinn Speedster from the 60's or 70s. It weighted a ton and I was thinking of commuting on that bike but was exhaused after 2 miles of riding. Too high geared and a three speed to boot! It's amazing how Schwinn survived all those years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dahon.Steve View Post
    Several years ago, I purchased a Chicago Schwinn Speedster from the 60's or 70s. It weighted a ton and I was thinking of commuting on that bike but was exhausted after 2 miles of riding.
    Only a slight exaggeration to describe that as weighing a ton.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SlimRider View Post
    Apparently, the Schwinn Paramount series are no longer in production, but their remaining inventory from 2011 and 2010 are still being sold by Peformance. It would appear as though, the more refined line of Schwinn, is gradually disappearing.
    This was the last real Paramount, by my reckoning:



    Not built by Waterford, either. Match Cycles, under Tim Isaac. I ordered that from the Schwinn warehouse on the day that Schwinn was being auctioned off (the first time, I mean). It was THE final order, and that was one of the very last 58cms. Lugged 853 steel, now there's something you don't see every day. The seat tube and downtube were also swagged a la Serotta, it wasn't just another tubeset stuck together with some lugs. It was worthy of the Paramount aura.

    I won a state championship on it in 2009, but was never comfortable using it for daily training... it was too "special" to get wet, too special to get dirty, too special to risk on fresh chipseal, too special to store where direct sunlight might fade the paint.... I finally sold The Precious to a local guy who actually rides it, instead of treating it like a museum piece

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    Quote Originally Posted by mechBgon View Post

    Not built by Waterford, either. Match Cycles, under Tim Isaac. I ordered that from the Schwinn warehouse on the day that Schwinn was being auctioned off (the first time, I mean). It was THE final order, and that was one of the very last 58cms. Lugged 853 steel, now there's something you don't see every day. The seat tube and downtube were also swagged a la Serotta, it wasn't just another tubeset stuck together with some lugs. It was worthy of the Paramount aura.

    I won a state championship on it in 2009, but was never comfortable using it for daily training... it was too "special" to get wet, too special to get dirty, too special to risk on fresh chipseal, too special to store where direct sunlight might fade the paint.... I finally sold The Precious to a local guy who actually rides it, instead of treating it like a museum piece
    Hey there MechBgon!

    Now that's a genuine Schwinn!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JanMM View Post
    Only a slight exaggeration to describe that as weighing a ton.
    I have to laugh when I read posts about 40 pound bikes being sooooo heavy...

    I sold a friend a 1951 Shelby 52A yesterday. He has been looking for one for years. As we were loading the beastie in his car, he commented on the weight of the bike. I told him it was probably more than 60 pounds and that these bikes were marketed to 8 year old boys when they were new. And most of those kids rode the snot out of them back then... And the kids that thought they were too light added baskets to them and used the bikes to deliver newspapers.

    I could just imagine a kid today (or some forum members) trying to ride one of these heavy, high geared, (many boys bikes came with 52-18 single speed gearing) monsters today.
    There's always room for one more bike!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingsting View Post
    I have to laugh when I read posts about 40 pound bikes being sooooo heavy...

    I sold a friend a 1951 Shelby 52A yesterday. He has been looking for one for years. As we were loading the beastie in his car, he commented on the weight of the bike. I told him it was probably more than 60 pounds and that these bikes were marketed to 8 year old boys when they were new. And most of those kids rode the snot out of them back then... And the kids that thought they were too light added baskets to them and used the bikes to deliver newspapers.

    I could just imagine a kid today (or some forum members) trying to ride one of these heavy, high geared, (many boys bikes came with 52-18 single speed gearing) monsters today.
    Hi there Kingsting!

    Sometimes I think that yesterday's boys are today's wussies...

    "It's too heavy!..I can hardly lift it!...It doesn't feel light enough!"...God! Give it a rest, already!

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    I don't see many vintage Schwinn bikes here in Canuckistan as they are uncommon in the land of CCM and Raleigh... first Varsity I saw was just a frame and fork and think my ongoing back problems stem from picking it up.



    It was a different age... there have always been folks trying to build the lightest and fastest and Schwinn did their share of that but they also made bikes that, although they were tank like, were made to survive a lifetime of hard use.

    Some look on one piece cranks as a poor piece of kit but one has to think that these were designed to be serviced with regular tools whereas all other cranks need specialized tools to be serviced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlimRider View Post
    Man! if you never hold another dollar, you're rich in my eyes!

    You own two really beautiful bikes!.....I'm in awe....


    - Slim
    Thanks Slim.
    I actually just googled that pic of an '88 Tempo to show you what was available.
    Both of my Schwinns are identical '86 Pelotons. In addition to those two, I have the original frame of my first real race bike, which I bought back when I was 16 and bagging groceries at &$^%# Albertson's Market.
    Even built the wheels up myself with white rims and red nipples for my 25" Pel here:


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    I have a circa 1990 Schwinn High Plains mtn. bike in a box downstairs. I remember the summer that I slaved and saved every penny to be able to go to the "Schwinn Shop" and buy my first adult bike. Lugged frame, Cro-Moly, Made in USA. I obviously don't ride it mostly because I don't have the room to have a 5th bike built. I'll have it built up again one day.

    One of the big things working against Schwinn to rising to the top again is sales like you find at Nashbar right now. Schwinn frames for $19.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlmostTrick View Post



    No. Yours was an inferior copy that the Real Kids were sure to sneer at! Original Stingrays command top dollar today and have a cult like following. Here's one I restored:





    I feel sorry for you.

    Yesterday's Schwinn's were solid bikes that were able to withstand plenty of use (even abuse) and keep right on rolling. I pick up many 30 and 40 year old units that often need nothing more than re-greasing, re-cabling and cleaning. They still roll as good as new.

    The Schwinn's of today are comparable to any other brand at the same price point... certainly nothing to sneer at.
    That's the Stingray we all wanted when I was a kid, great restoration job too! My Sister found a Suburban without about 10 miles on it at a garage sale, and it needed new tires, tubes and rim strips in addition to relubing the cables. She doesn't know how lucky she is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by no motor? View Post
    That's the Stingray we all wanted when I was a kid, great restoration job too! My Sister found a Suburban without about 10 miles on it at a garage sale, and it needed new tires, tubes and rim strips in addition to relubing the cables. She doesn't know how lucky she is.
    That is absolutely gorgeous!

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    Schwinn is dead, long live Schwinn.
    “Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted.”


    ― Ralph Waldo Emerson, Emerson in His Journals

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    Noted authority praises Schnwinn quality.

    Can't argue with this...


    More Schwinn info here: http://www.trfindley.com/pg_schwinn_cats.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Looigi View Post
    Can't argue with this...


    More Schwinn info here: http://www.trfindley.com/pg_schwinn_cats.htm
    Hey there Loogi!

    That's great! I was looking for something like that...Couldn't find it!

    Thanks for the contribution!

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    As SixtyFiver said, there's not too many vintage Schwinns to be seen in the wild here in the great white north, but I am fortunate enough to own one.
    It's a 1964 tandem that was given to me by a friend. He bought it new when he was in college before he moved north from the states.
    He was, um, stationed in Canada during the Viet Nam conflict, and stayed here when it was over.
    I did a complete makeover on it, but unfortunately, I could never get my wife to enjoy riding it so it mostly languishes in storage, waiting until my grandkids are big enough to ride it with me.
    Here's a video of the bike.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOWkWO76m_w

    And a video of before and after pics.
    Hopefully the music won't put you to sleep.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-_uNDmRAs4
    Gearhubs demystified and other cool stuff.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Burkhart View Post
    As SixtyFiver said, there's not too many vintage Schwinns to be seen in the wild here in the great white north, but I am fortunate enough to own one.
    It's a 1964 tandem that was given to me by a friend. He bought it new when he was in college before he moved north from the states.
    He was, um, stationed in Canada during the Viet Nam conflict, and stayed here when it was over.
    I did a complete makeover on it, but unfortunately, I could never get my wife to enjoy riding it so it mostly languishes in storage, waiting until my grandkids are big enough to ride it with me.
    Here's a video of the bike.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOWkWO76m_w

    And a video of before and after pics.
    Hopefully the music won't put you to sleep.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-_uNDmRAs4
    Hey there Dan!

    Wow! You're a real miracle worker!

    That tandem Schwinn is now gorgeous!

    Great job. Thanks for the contribution!

    - Slim

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    Quote Originally Posted by HokuLoa View Post
    Yeah, sadly names mean little in this modern, globalized economy. I always find it amusing and a little sad when people dogmatically defend a corporate brand that is no longer even a shade of its former self do to changed hands and completely different standards.
    Like Motobecane

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlimRider View Post
    Hey there Dan!

    Wow! You're a real miracle worker!

    That tandem Schwinn is now gorgeous!

    Great job. Thanks for the contribution!

    - Slim
    Thanks. A lot of the credit has to go to my painter. Wish I could track him down again. Seems to have disappeared.
    Gearhubs demystified and other cool stuff.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Looigi View Post
    Can't argue with this...


    More Schwinn info here: http://www.trfindley.com/pg_schwinn_cats.htm
    Poor b@$t@rd's served faithfully in the Kangaroo Corps for more than 30 years, was decommissioned in '84 and he still hasn't made major. Lapels that big could easily hold a Brigadier General's rank! It's time we all wrote our congressman!!!

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    Perhaps the reason why the good Captain hasn't gotten a promotion is because he died 11 years ago...

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    My mother was of the "buy it too big, he'll grow into it" mind set, so I got a 26 inch Indian Scout "English racer" in the forth grade, 9 years old. It had the SA 3 speed. There was a rumor among the go faster crowd that if you turned the adjuster way out you could find a forth gear in there. In the little window where the 1-2-3 was displayed you could see another symbol come into view. I was convinced I had found the holy grail of the forth gear. Talk about status. I was king!

    i have no idea what we were actually doing, probably crippling the hub. I know I broke the little chain there many times by dropping the bike in the right side on pavement. Never intentionally mind you, always accidentally by falling off. I was a little kid, and just getting on and off that huge bike was an adventure .

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    Quote Originally Posted by no1mad View Post
    Perhaps the reason why the good Captain hasn't gotten a promotion is because he died 11 years ago...
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    What happened to the good name of Schwinn should be a lesson in every business class. I started on a Stingray, moved to a Varsity, then on too a few loser bikes. When it came time to buy a real bike in 1979, Schwinn wasn't on my list. The offerings at the local Schwinn store were not competitive in quality or price. Bought a Univega Viva Sport and loved it.

    Schwinn got fat, stupid, and lazy in the 70s. They remind me of Harley-Davidson of the same era. Harley got it's act together in the early 80s, Schwinn continued down the same path.

    I'm currently restoring a '72 Continental. It's heavy, but not that heavy. The Twinn-Stik shifters don't have enough pull and the chrome seatpost is prone to sinking, but that's the only real faults.
    Pronounced "Murkle"

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingsting View Post
    I have to laugh when I read posts about 40 pound bikes being sooooo heavy...

    I sold a friend a 1951 Shelby 52A yesterday. He has been looking for one for years. As we were loading the beastie in his car, he commented on the weight of the bike. I told him it was probably more than 60 pounds and that these bikes were marketed to 8 year old boys when they were new. And most of those kids rode the snot out of them back then... And the kids that thought they were too light added baskets to them and used the bikes to deliver newspapers.

    I could just imagine a kid today (or some forum members) trying to ride one of these heavy, high geared, (many boys bikes came with 52-18 single speed gearing) monsters today.
    I'm laughing with you! There's a boatload of old Schwinns in northern Nevada. My daily rider is a Schwinn Varsity step through frame that is at least 40 years old. I ride it with a rack and panniers all over town with nary a problem. Heavy? 'Shrug', grow a pair of legs!

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    Paramount?, I like some of their Movies..

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