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pg13 11-07-11 05:12 AM

Beginners forum?
 
Was wondering why there isnt a beginners forum? would be useful to all the newcomers to biking(of all kinds) and those whove been gone so long might as well be newcomers. could have stickies in it covering lots of basic stuff, from what you should pack minimally to basic maintenance and repair to general riding tips to say nutrition/hydration etc. Yes you probably could look around and find it all on the site but wouldnt it be more efficient if all such things were in one spot instead of many, many searches? Well just my 2 cents though with inflation its only 1 :p

StephenH 11-07-11 07:25 AM

The catch is that a beginner's forum would be populated by beginners, with no one to answer their questions.

10 Wheels 11-07-11 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by pg13 (Post 13462198)
Was wondering why there isnt a beginners forum? would be useful to all the newcomers to biking(of all kinds) and those whove been gone so long might as well be newcomers. could have stickies in it covering lots of basic stuff, from what you should pack minimally to basic maintenance and repair to general riding tips to say nutrition/hydration etc. Yes you probably could look around and find it all on the site but wouldnt it be more efficient if all such things were in one spot instead of many, many searches? Well just my 2 cents though with inflation its only 1 :p

Go ride your bike a 100 miles and come back here with questions.

tsl 11-07-11 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by pg13 (Post 13462198)
would be useful to all the newcomers to biking(of all kinds) and those whove been gone so long might as well be newcomers. could have stickies in it covering lots of basic stuff, from what you should pack minimally to basic maintenance and repair to general riding tips to say nutrition/hydration etc.

You're missing the entire point of a discussion forum. A discussion forum's whole raison d'etré is near-real-time conversation, not static reference material. What you're asking for is a wiki or a book. (And I have a few suggestions for books, just ask.)

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Originally Posted by StephenH (Post 13462459)
The catch is that a beginner's forum would be populated by beginners, with no one to answer their questions.

I participate on two other cycling forums that have beginner's sections. This is exactly what happens in each one. Any questions posted are answered by the same tired half-dozen guys with the same opinions every single time. I'm one of them, and that critique is just as valid for my responses as for the other five guys'.

Artkansas 11-07-11 08:29 AM

The answers are all to be found in the other forums. A beginner's one would be redundant. And as others said, it would tend to be filled with other beginners. You might want to check in the 50+ Forum, it has a fair number of people coming back to the sport after some time. Mechanical questions you can ask in Bicycle Mechanics. Recreational and Family is the place to go if you are exploring the bike paths of your local town. General Cycling, how much more general can you get?

It's all there. You may want to explore the search functions for specific questions. That can save you hunting and help you avoid asking questions that were just answered one week ago.

As tsl said, this is a forum. For things like what to pack, you will find that there are dozens of experiences, and dozens of answers, all right and all possibly conflicting. Truth is that all the answers are really between your pedals. No two cyclists get the same answers, but we are happy to steer you wrong with what works for us, confuse you and otherwise give you our opinions. ;) Join in the conversation and you will find that your questions do get answered.

Welcome

pg13 11-07-11 09:56 AM

Yes I'd like to know some books too :) Maybe with correct ways to do some things cause I'm probably doing somethings wrong and can't really imagine in my head just because I have really have no experience. But it's fine. I'll use searches and post questions in the forum it fits in or closest I can get it to fit in.

tsl 11-07-11 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by pg13 (Post 13462960)
Yes I'd like to know some books too :)

Effective Cycling by John Forester (on your library shelf at 796.6 FOR) has long been considered the gold-standard cycling reference book. There's a little of everything in there. The 6th edition is 20 years old, so some things need some updating. The sections on skills, fitting, nutrition and so on remain fully valid. Fortunately, the 7th edition is set to be published in April 2012.

The Art of Cycling: A Guide to Bicycling in 21st Century America by Robert Hurst (on your library shelf at 796.6 HUR) picks up on traffic issues where Forester leaves off. Cell phones, texting, GPS, and other driver distractions have changed the cycling landscape in the past 20 years. Hurst adds subtle and nuanced approaches to remaining safe in traffic, while taking back the responsibility from drivers and putting it where it belongs, with the cyclist. Yes, we have copies at work, but I own my own copy of this one and re-read it a couple of times a year, just to keep it fresh in my head.

I've yet to find a repair guide that makes me happy. There are plenty out there, but all they tell you how to replace parts. None that I've found tell you how to troubleshoot, or what to do if this thing or that thing happens. Look around the library in the 629.287 section and find something. Meanwhile, the Park Tool web site has the complete contents of its Big Blue Book of Bicycle Repair in a searchable format online.

pg13 11-07-11 10:50 AM

Ah, thanks alot.

SlimRider 11-07-11 10:56 AM

Hi there PG13!

You are aware of the fact that there is an "Introduction" forum, right? ...That would be an excellent place to start, should you have specific beginner-type questions. If you feel that one of the greeters there, can't answer questions satisfactorily, then they can most certainly direct you to the most appropriate forum, in which your question would best be posed.

Many beginners are able to determine for themselves, in which forum their questions would best be presented.

You should visit the "Introduction" forum, sometimes...It's nice!

Quite a few "beginners" come directly to the "General Cycling Discussions" forum...We're nice here, too!

Most Respectfully,

- Slim :)

tsl 11-07-11 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by pg13 (Post 13463242)
Ah, thanks alot.

Here's one I forgot to mention.

If you're an aspiring roadie or road racer, The no-drop zone : everything you need to know about the peloton, your gear, and riding strong by Patrick Brady (in your library at 796.6 BRA, sensing a theme with the 796.6 bit?) deserves a read. I like Brady's writing both for style and content. His web site, Red Kite Prayer is one of my regular reads.

pg13 11-07-11 11:11 AM

Go away carbonboy!:p I'm just jealous cause(for now) to big to trust carbon under me:cry: And I'll be sure to post there soon or eventually whichever comes first :D
edit: This is what I mean! No idea what a peloton is. Looked it up and D'oh! Ok I knew what a pack was just didn't know there was a specific name for it. Learned something new and that's always a good thing.

triumph.1 11-13-11 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by 10 Wheels (Post 13462502)
Go ride your bike a 100 miles and come back here with questions.

This is the best answer^^^ , but I'd add then go and ride some more. At least 50% of the answers you get here will either end up not pertaining to the subject you are asking about, will frustrate you or will make you wish you never asked. :D

Machka 11-13-11 06:01 PM

Read, read, read!
 
Read, read, read!

Go to your local library and read all the books they can get for you on bicycles and cycling ... start the ones published recently and work your way back. Have a look over the magazine section ... some libraries carry bicycling magazines of one sort or another. Read those.

And then pick up a few books as you go along ... here are a few suggestions: http://astore.amazon.com/machka-20

Also read through the topics on various cycling websites and forums. Chances are you aren't the first person with a particular question and you may not even be the first person that day with a particular question. Before posting a question, read through all the topics on the first few pages of a forum to see if there's something there which may answer your questions.

A suggestion I made in another forum, copied and pasted here now ...
1. Read back a dozen pages or so before posting to make sure you aren't repeating a recent topic, especially one which 7 other people have posted about in the last week or two.

2. If you're posting about something seasonal, read last year's posts during that season. Your answer may be there. And it's OK to bump a thread from a year ago if you have new questions or information.

3. Go to the Index page and have a look at what other forums are available here. Maybe your question would be more appropriately asked in another forum, or maybe your answer is in another forum. http://www.bikeforums.net/forumdispl...52-Bike-Forums

4. Use the Search feature. It actually works quite well, as long as you use Advanced Search and take a moment to look at your options.

In the Road Forum, there's an intro thread which might be helpful:
http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...-Answered-Here

This is a Cycling Terminology thread, with links to terms and definitions with which newbies might not be familiar:
http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...ora-of-newbies


Many of us got into cycling before the internet, so we learned by doing ... getting out there and riding every day ... and by reading whatever material we could find. In my case, my father subscribed to Bicycling Magazine back when it was good, and I grew up reading it. Then when I decided to get a bit more serious about cycling, I read everything I could get ahold of in my local library.

Mobile 155 11-13-11 06:50 PM

Just picked up a new Book by John Howard called Mastering Cycling. It will also give training tips and health and nutrition advice. I got it on Kindle but they have it in hard back as well.

rdtompki 11-13-11 07:01 PM

The excellent responses in this thread answer your initial question, the ultimate beginner's question. Post your question(s) where you think it makes the most sense; if there is a better forum, one which will most likely elicit a greater number of intelligent responses, someone will respond with that information. Welcome to BF.


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