Cycling and bicycle discussion forums. 
   Click here to join our community Log in to access your Control Panel  


Go Back   > >

General Cycling Discussion Have a cycling related question or comment that doesn't fit in one of the other specialty forums? Drop on in and post in here! When possible, please select the forum above that most fits your post!

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 11-23-11, 02:06 AM   #1
summsumm99
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Bikes:
Posts: 8
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
classic italian frame maker's new models?

hello,,, out of interest i'm wondering on opinions of which classic italian frame makers who are known for their very nice steel frames (back in the day) still make very high level frames these days (both their new carbon and/ or steel frames). Particular interested to know more on new- Somec vs Ciocc, Carrera etc- do any of these brands stand out as a better level frame than the others with regards to their new frames? Any tips on modern classic brands who's modern bikes don't quite live up to the name (and should maybe be wary of)?

Thanks

Last edited by summsumm99; 11-23-11 at 02:12 AM.
summsumm99 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-11, 05:57 AM   #2
CraigB
Starting over
 
CraigB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Indianapolis
Bikes: 1990 Trek 1500; 2006 Gary Fisher Marlin; 2011 Cannondale Synapse Alloy 105; 2012 Catrike Trail
Posts: 4,081
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I couldn't afford those frames in the past, and I still can't today, so I have no first-hand experiences to offer. I do know I see a lot of new Colnagos around, and my LBS sells a lot of Pinarello Dogmas.
CraigB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-11, 04:24 PM   #3
azpeterb
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Tucson, Arizona
Bikes: Pelizzoli road bike
Posts: 6
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I was in the market for a nice new Italian steel frame and was pointed toward Pelizzoli. Turns out the Giovani Pelizzoli founded the Ciocc company years ago, and you know how successful they were in the 70's and 80's. So he eventually sold Ciocc and started up another company, Pelizzoli. I was able to scrape some money together and ordered a steel road frame (the Corsa GP in bright red with touches of chrome) from Pelizzoli, and received it a couple months ago. Then had the bike built up and I've been riding it since mid-October. I absolutely love it....plush, responsive, comfortable....the bike that I've been dreaming about since I was a teen in the 80's. And their price for the frame was incredibly low. Anyway, I've heard that they are changing their marketing approach and will be dealing more with distributors rather than individual buyers, which will probably mean a dramatic rise in the price of their frames. But you might want to go to their website and check it out. Alessandro there is fluent in english and will respond to e-mail inquiries.
azpeterb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-11, 07:52 PM   #4
fietsbob 
coprolite
 
fietsbob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: NW,Oregon Coast
Bikes: 7
Posts: 20,415
Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 653 Post(s)
You could contact the Italian trade commission representative at the nearest Consulate,
and they would be more than happy to get a contact list together for you.

That is what their job is , Promoting Italian Products.
fietsbob is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-24-11, 01:10 AM   #5
summsumm99
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Bikes:
Posts: 8
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Thanks for the info everyone,,, those Pelizzoli frames look amazing but looking for info on some modern carbon frames also,,, thanks again!
summsumm99 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-24-11, 11:52 AM   #6
fietsbob 
coprolite
 
fietsbob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: NW,Oregon Coast
Bikes: 7
Posts: 20,415
Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 653 Post(s)
Names get sold, and made elsewhere. Masi is an example.
fietsbob is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 12-04-11, 03:43 AM   #7
CuRed 
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Bikes:
Posts: 132
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
For high end Italian steel still family owned, try Mondonico, Tommasini, Casati, Zullo, Pegoretti and the already mentioned Pelizzoli.

For carbon frames, I'd be suspect of anything monocoque as chances are good they are manufactured in the Far East.
IMO, at the 2-3k price point, it's probably Taiwan.
The only two for sure I know hand lay carbon are Pinarello and Casati, and maybe Tommasini, and only on the high end carbon frames, frames that can be ordered in custom sizes.
High end Italian carbon is often twice the price of high end steel.
__________________
The Flat Tire
CuRed is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:01 PM.