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Old 12-06-11, 07:34 PM   #1
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the bicycle (laden) bus

this is just too far out!

http://www.trholme.com/bicyclebus/ is a corrected site address, gotten from rom tom (below), about whom this thread was created.
he was gracious in posting to us. thanks much, rom tom!

bus gypsies that have/had i bet a hundred bikes a-hanging all over it. ya gotta look, and read the story.
culling bikes from dumps to fix up and barter. lotsa pics, trials and tribulations.

those of you who have lived in the pnw and were born prior to ~1972 might remember them. mostly
oregon.

i have run into bus gypsies a couple of times over the years and found them interesting.

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Sorry your link doesnt work.
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Sorry your link doesnt work.
Remove the Cached from the end of the url.
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Read the history and its pretty cool though some parts make me wonder things but still all in all a good story. Though Im wondering about the history he never gets into nor can read since he never published his book
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The Bicycle Bus of the PNW Coast was around well past the 1970s. Here's a view from 1999 on the Oregon coast - riding from Seattle to LA solo, I'd just broken two spokes, determined the nearest bike shop was 20 miles away and closed on Sundays, so I started looking for a place to spend the night. Turned the corner, and saw this:


The Bicycle Bus by joshua_putnam, on Flickr

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It's quite a saga. They humble us in their commitment to their lifestyle and giving to others. The 2nd bike bus was truly a sad story. I'm glad they survived.
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The Bicycle Bus by joshua_putnam, on Flickr
dude, you made this thread worth having been created. thank you VERY much. rodney
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Thanks folks, for the good words about my old Bikebus. Yes, we were quite a fixture of the Northwest for nearly twenty years. We were on the road 365 days a year. Basically we had a sort of route we followed which took us up through Washington State and down along the coast to the bottom of Oregon, visiting mainly the Indian Reservations and small towns that had no bikeshops. Towns with no bikeshops end up having children riding unsafe bikes with no brakes and gears that don't work, and rusty chains, etc. We also accepted old defunct bikes that families didn't need anymore. We rebuilt all the bearings and cables, and replaced tires and tubes that needed replacing, and whatever else needed to be redone. Any bike anyone bought from us functioned pretty much like new, and could be depended on for problem-free riding for years. So, when we returned to the same town or village the next time, we met with satisfied people who knew us as trustworthy. We gave away some bikes to low income people. We also repaired bikes for people too poor to pay. Which surprised many a person. Because the world isn't like that usually. I used to like to say that nobody ever left with an unfixed bike because they were too poor to pay. We also did a lot of trading. I remember once we got a large pot of boiled crawdads for repairing a bike. Other times we got home-baked bread or pies. Also other bikes. I especially liked antiques that I could rebuild and put up above on my rack on top as showpieces. This behemoth of a bus never got a traffic ticket. In Eugene Oregon, each Christmas, the police and Marines used to gather up used bicycles to give away on Christmas. Today, they don't do that anymore. No more used bikes. They only give away new bikes. But back in those days it was old rusty bikes that people donated. Bikes missing pedals. Bikes with broken wobbly whees. Bikes with rusty kinked up chains. Bikes with rusted frozen brakes and gears. Flat tires. There was no way to fix them. They gave them away just the way they came in. Broken down and unridable. And it made those Police and Marines VERY SAD to do that. They really hurt. But there was no alternative. On the years when I happened to be in or near Eugene around Christmas I would go there and park my bus there where they all were gathered, and I would spend all day long, working FAST AS i COULD, and I would fix up every single bike they had gathered there, so that every bike, not only was rideable, but every gear and brake worked, and no fat tires, and no rims missing spokes or needing truing, and every bearing with grease. Typically I would repair 30 or 40 bikes that day. And when I left at the end of that day, every policeman there would shake my hand. That made this old hippie feel darn good. I would still do it on Christmas if they gave away donated bikes like that. We got off the highways ten years ago or so. I had to deal with cancer, radiation therapy, chemotherapy. Actually, the political climate was no longer conducive of our sort of business. I don't know about the parts of the country where each of you live, but, like there used to be a big store here where they sold day old bread and stuff for real low prices, which poor people really depended upon. Nobody actually comes out and says what was behind it, but economic powers reasoned that if a store like that was open letting people have access to inexpensive day-old bread, then they wouldn't be buying full-priced loaves of bread in the stores. So, under the tables, they arranged things politically so that that day old bread store had to disappear and never come back. They did the same thing to everything like that. Meanwhile giving all kinds of fake reasons that sufficed to gullible people. They set up rules and regulations in just such a way so that such businesses could not exist anymore. For instance they made it very difficult for me to insure my bikebus. And insurance was mandatory. And the tickets were huge for anyone who tried to slide by. So they made it impossible for us to get affordable insurance and we couldn't drive anywhere without insurance. Oh there were other things too. But they couldn't fool me. I saw what they were really doing, and who and what was behind it. Please visit my bikebus website: http://www.trholme.com/bicyclebus/ -------- That other website mentioned on this page -- www.goddessheart.com --- is NOT really pornographic images. That is just the bogus narrow-minded unartistic thinking of our society. We are senior citizens, my wife and I. But I met her when we were young, on the biggest nude beach in North America -- Wreck Beach on the campus of the University of British Columbia in Vancouver BC Canada, and we fell in love and have been together ever since. Nudist cultures are not automatically pornographic cultures. Whole families go there, of every age. It's not sexual. It's freedom. A place where people may be free. You don't find people with bad manners there saying or doing rude things. Mostly you find artists and poets. -- http://www.goddessheart.com/digitalisis/ That is art. -- In addition to repairing and rebuilding bicycles, I have always been an oil painter, sculptor, and photographer - and a poet. Goddessheart.com has existed for fifteen years or so --- my photos and my poetry. I only photographed friends of myself and my wife. People sometimes traveled many miles to have me photograph them. Basically it is the same thing as my Bicyclebus. There are some people who will never understand it. They will only see it their way. The old bikebus is a useless pile of junk and I am some kind of slaggard. There is no way to change the way someone like that looks at the world. Goddessheart photography is the same thing. If you have UNDERSTANDING you have understanding. If you don't, you don't. All the best to all of you. --- (I have over 30 websites. See them all at: www.trholme.com ) Thanks, RomTom
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Haters gonna you-know-what. You and your family and friends are awesome and thank for posting here! Your story is so intriguing and romantic. I wish you the very best :-)
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Thanks folks, for the good words about my old Bikebus. Yes, we were quite a fixture of the Northwest for nearly twenty years. We were on the road 365 days a year. Basically we had a sort of route we followed which took us up through Washington State and down along the coast to the bottom of Oregon, visiting mainly the Indian Reservations and small towns that had no bikeshops. Towns with no bikeshops end up having children riding unsafe bikes with no brakes and gears that don't work, and rusty chains, etc. We also accepted old defunct bikes that families didn't need anymore. We rebuilt all the bearings and cables, and replaced tires and tubes that needed replacing, and whatever else needed to be redone. Any bike anyone bought from us functioned pretty much like new, and could be depended on for problem-free riding for years. So, when we returned to the same town or village the next time, we met with satisfied people who knew us as trustworthy. We gave away some bikes to low income people. We also repaired bikes for people too poor to pay. Which surprised many a person. Because the world isn't like that usually. I used to like to say that nobody ever left with an unfixed bike because they were too poor to pay. We also did a lot of trading. I remember once we got a large pot of boiled crawdads for repairing a bike. Other times we got home-baked bread or pies. Also other bikes. I especially liked antiques that I could rebuild and put up above on my rack on top as showpieces. This behemoth of a bus never got a traffic ticket. In Eugene Oregon, each Christmas, the police and Marines used to gather up used bicycles to give away on Christmas. Today, they don't do that anymore. No more used bikes. They only give away new bikes. But back in those days it was old rusty bikes that people donated. Bikes missing pedals. Bikes with broken wobbly whees. Bikes with rusty kinked up chains. Bikes with rusted frozen brakes and gears. Flat tires. There was no way to fix them. They gave them away just the way they came in. Broken down and unridable. And it made those Police and Marines VERY SAD to do that. They really hurt. But there was no alternative. On the years when I happened to be in or near Eugene around Christmas I would go there and park my bus there where they all were gathered, and I would spend all day long, working FAST AS i COULD, and I would fix up every single bike they had gathered there, so that every bike, not only was rideable, but every gear and brake worked, and no fat tires, and no rims missing spokes or needing truing, and every bearing with grease. Typically I would repair 30 or 40 bikes that day. And when I left at the end of that day, every policeman there would shake my hand. That made this old hippie feel darn good. I would still do it on Christmas if they gave away donated bikes like that. We got off the highways ten years ago or so. I had to deal with cancer, radiation therapy, chemotherapy. Actually, the political climate was no longer conducive of our sort of business. I don't know about the parts of the country where each of you live, but, like there used to be a big store here where they sold day old bread and stuff for real low prices, which poor people really depended upon. Nobody actually comes out and says what was behind it, but economic powers reasoned that if a store like that was open letting people have access to inexpensive day-old bread, then they wouldn't be buying full-priced loaves of bread in the stores. So, under the tables, they arranged things politically so that that day old bread store had to disappear and never come back. They did the same thing to everything like that. Meanwhile giving all kinds of fake reasons that sufficed to gullible people. They set up rules and regulations in just such a way so that such businesses could not exist anymore. For instance they made it very difficult for me to insure my bikebus. And insurance was mandatory. And the tickets were huge for anyone who tried to slide by. So they made it impossible for us to get affordable insurance and we couldn't drive anywhere without insurance. Oh there were other things too. But they couldn't fool me. I saw what they were really doing, and who and what was behind it. Please visit my bikebus website: http://www.trholme.com/bicyclebus/ -------- That other website mentioned on this page -- www.goddessheart.com --- is NOT really pornographic images. That is just the bogus narrow-minded unartistic thinking of our society. We are senior citizens, my wife and I. But I met her when we were young, on the biggest nude beach in North America -- Wreck Beach on the campus of the University of British Columbia in Vancouver BC Canada, and we fell in love and have been together ever since. Nudist cultures are not automatically pornographic cultures. Whole families go there, of every age. It's not sexual. It's freedom. A place where people may be free. You don't find people with bad manners there saying or doing rude things. Mostly you find artists and poets. -- http://www.goddessheart.com/digitalisis/ That is art. -- In addition to repairing and rebuilding bicycles, I have always been an oil painter, sculptor, and photographer - and a poet. Goddessheart.com has existed for fifteen years or so --- my photos and my poetry. I only photographed friends of myself and my wife. People sometimes traveled many miles to have me photograph them. Basically it is the same thing as my Bicyclebus. There are some people who will never understand it. They will only see it their way. The old bikebus is a useless pile of junk and I am some kind of slaggard. There is no way to change the way someone like that looks at the world. Goddessheart photography is the same thing. If you have UNDERSTANDING you have understanding. If you don't, you don't. All the best to all of you. --- (I have over 30 websites. See them all at: www.trholme.com ) Thanks, RomTom


probably most of you have no knowledge of peddlers, drummers and tinkers. one of my grannies grew up, and lived in until 1940, very rural harlan county, kentucky.
so far back in a holler (hollow) that they 'come to town' on foot only about every other month for necessities. in between times, a peddler came through selling, and sometimes bartering, goods. the 'road' was a very steep single track crossing many streams. at one point along, there was a rope bridge. the peddler came a-horseback, leading a second hoss with the goods. his arrival was occasion for celebration because he brightened their lives with news of all kinds from the outside world as well as bringing goods, maybe along with a probably very outdated newspaper.

the bicycle bus served a much needed (and wanted) similar function for those not in power. shame on petty authority that has no vision and cares not for the needs of the very people he/she hopes will vote for him/her! these folks should be made welcome and honored guests.

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Looks like a bunch of velociraptors taking down a brachiosaurus! Cool.
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would these folks be like living americana, or are there similar folks in europe?
there are gypsies, but not sure whether they have a service to offer.

i remember hippies travelling around europe, but it seemed not many offered a
service or goods. i do remember some handmade goods, usually made by the
girls. beaded items, leather goods.

back in '97 and '00 i saw new age travellers in england at boot fairs, marketing
various things. those folks caravanned around together.

boy, this is getting bad: i remember beatniks (one of my aunts was one), hippies
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Well, back when we were young, just living in a ticky-tacky house and doing the same thing every day seemed to be a waste of a good life. We liked camping in the forests and mountains, sitting in hotsprings with friends. Also Indian people are pretty wonderful to be around. But the ones who get stuck in cities and towns turn out just like everyone else. But on the Indian reservations they still have their language and their old ways, and their tribal uniqueness. But who gets to see them there? Very few of us. So my bikebus gave me and Ellie something we could do which made us welcome among them. In the evenings, sitting with the grandfathers, watching the little children ride around on bicycles, was quite hearty. Magical moments. And the little out-of-the-way white towns were also pretty wonderful. We filled up 365 days each year with those things. Easily. I wish we could still do it. As far as other "hippies" doing things like that, well, I suppose we were unique unto ourselves. But to each his own. We just carved out our own niche in life and filled the moments with honey. Much as we could.

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would these folks be like living americana, or are there similar folks in europe?
there are gypsies, but not sure whether they have a service to offer.
Not sure how many of them still repair pots and pans, but in English, the Irish often still refer to their nomadic population as "tinkers."

From what I saw during a month touring Ireland, quite a few of them seem to collect scrap metal, and many non-travelers suspect they're all out to steal anything that isn't bolted down.
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Speaking of traveling sales folks, I just remembered the side of the bus featured a quote from Parnassus on Wheels, an excellent but obscure novel about a traveling book seller.
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RomTom! I am very inspired by your BikeBus! I was hoping to get your phone number and your email in order to contact you and talk a little more about it! Let me know!

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Appears that RomTom has not been active here since 2011.
You might have better luck checking out the websites he mentions in his posts.

Edit: Those links seem to be dead.
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Appears that RomTom has not been active here since 2011.
You might have better luck checking out the websites he mentions in his posts.

Edit: Those links seem to be dead.
I tried to personal message him, but I guess you have to have a total of 50 posts before that is allowed. Could one of you message him for me and forward the info? That would be great. Thanks!
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I tried to personal message him, but I guess you have to have a total of 50 posts before that is allowed. Could one of you message him for me and forward the info? That would be great. Thanks!
You are correct that one either has to have 50 posts or an upgraded membership to access the PM system here. That being said, the person you are trying to establish contact with has not posted, logged in, or otherwise since December 14, 2011, the whois for the broken link indicates that the domain is paid for through 2019 but the site is not active, and both Google and Bing returned no results for this guy's product... I'd hazard a guess that he's moved on.
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