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Old 01-25-12, 09:21 PM   #1
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General tips (on how not to be a Fred)?

I'm just wondering if anyone has any general advice, mostly related to the style of your bike and whatnot. A list of guidelines, basically. I've been lurking a bit and people seem to criticize others for things I don't really understand. General style tips on what not to do with: saddle angle, bar angle, drop, etc. would be nice, but any little hints would be appreciated.

I realize that most of the stuff is common sense, but I'm just asking for clarification. What makes you cringe when you look at a bike? Or what are some behaviours on group rides that are generally frowned upon?

Thanks for tolerating my lack of knowledge on what seems like second nature to most of you
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Old 01-25-12, 09:33 PM   #2
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If you don't want to look like a fred, you may want to emulate a Euro pro.
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Old 01-25-12, 09:38 PM   #3
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If you don't want to look like a fred, you may want to emulate a Euro pro.
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Old 01-25-12, 10:42 PM   #4
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Don't do this with your bars, and I think you are good. I'd say that how the bike feels and functions is far more important that what others think about it's appearance. Sure, often setting it up properly will tend to look the way they want, but not always.
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Old 01-25-12, 11:19 PM   #5
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Don't do this with your bars, and I think you are good.
When I was a kid I had a bike with the bars mounted like that. It DOES get you an upright riding position.
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Old 01-25-12, 11:22 PM   #6
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You are saying "fred" like it is a bad thing.
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Old 01-26-12, 12:40 AM   #7
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I'm a proud partial Fred still learning some basics not to be a full Fred. I have been told not to leave caps on the valve stems, guess that is an uber Fred thing. Some frowned upon items pointed out to me are my mountain bike shoes and pedals, I’m keeping them. I finally switched over to the tight bike shorts, the baggy ones were getting more stares than the tight ones. Another thing road bikers like is “flipping the stem,” didn’t work for me. If you have not yet gone clipless, do, this moves you up a couple non-Fred stages. Learn as much bicycle lingo as possible; saying the wrong things is a big Fred label.
This video has a lot of bike lingo, learn all the phrases.....

http://api.viglink.com/api/click?for...13275602450311

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Old 01-26-12, 12:58 AM   #8
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Fred... we should all aspire to this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_(bicycling)

He just celebrated his 100th birthday.

http://www.athensmove.com/life/life-...red-birchmore/
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Old 01-26-12, 01:08 AM   #9
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Would you prefer to be a "Poseur"? Fred's have the whole soul cycling thing figured out. Trust me.....
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Old 01-26-12, 01:25 AM   #10
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Hello everyone!

My name is Fred and I am the proud owner of this cool-looking bicycle.



I am here to show the entire cycling world, how to get its swag on!

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Old 01-26-12, 01:43 AM   #11
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More riding. Less worrying about appearances.
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Old 01-26-12, 02:23 AM   #12
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More riding. Less worrying about appearances.
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Quit being a tool. No one cares. No one. In fact, I judge you harder just for being preoccupied with petty crap.
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Old 01-26-12, 02:30 AM   #13
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You are saying "fred" like it is a bad thing.
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Why would anyone want to stop looking like a Fred?
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Old 01-26-12, 05:59 AM   #14
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In the UK, an early usage of the word is the more common—used by 'serious' roadies (cyclists who ride racing bicycles, and may themselves participate in competitive events) to refer to (stereotypically) bearded, sandal-wearing, cyclists without any high-tech gear. These Freds are not generally total novice cyclists, and often ride fairly frequently. This usage still survives in the US. David Bernstein, presenter of The FredCast says the term is "used by 'serious' roadies to disparage utility cyclists and touring riders, especially after these totally unfashionable 'freds' drop the 'serious' roadies on hills because the 'serious' guys were really posers."
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Sounds to me like a 'Fred' is just an ordinary cyclist who posers like to mock for not being what they deem to be a real cyclist on a 'real' bike. Just roll with it and see who's laughing when they can't keep up with you.
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Old 01-26-12, 08:23 AM   #15
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Would you prefer to be a "Poseur"? Fred's have the whole soul cycling thing figured out. Trust me.....
+1. And to go one step further than bigfred, if you're worried about being a Fred, you're not one because Freds don't care. You might be a poseur though - they really care about looks.
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Yeah. Fredliness can be good. It's antithetical to being a poseur, whose only concern is appearance. A Fred is all about function, practicality, and individuality.
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Don't do this with your bars, and I think you are good. I'd say that how the bike feels and functions is far more important that what others think about it's appearance. Sure, often setting it up properly will tend to look the way they want, but not always.
I'm sorry, but I see absolutely nothing wrong with the orientation of those handlebars!

To me, they look sweeeeeet!

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You are saying "fred" like it is a bad thing.
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If you're a little different than everyone else, so be it. I rode with the fast group for last Saturday's breakfast ride... on a 29-year-old steel bike and wearing jeans. Let the haters hate. (Actually, it drew comments of wonder more than anything else.)
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I'm just wondering if anyone has any general advice, mostly related to the style of your bike and whatnot. A list of guidelines, basically. I've been lurking a bit and people seem to criticize others for things I don't really understand. General style tips on what not to do with: saddle angle, bar angle, drop, etc. would be nice, but any little hints would be appreciated.
If you have to ask, I don't think there's any hope. Nothing is more freddy than somebody trying not to be a fred. UBU.
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Look in the roadie section (the 41). Theyknow all the answers to this and other questions.
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Yesterday , I was riding south and my daughter passed me in her car , heading north. Later , I texted her and asked if I looked looked like a "Fred". She said at first, she didn't think it was me because I looked like a real cyclist ! I'm making progress !
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I've met tooooooo many cyclists to know the way I dress and carry my stem are the least of my worries on the bike.
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