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Old 02-23-12, 02:01 PM   #1
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Any Cycle Light Recommendations Over The Zefal?

Normally I look at reviews before I buy things. But When I saw the Zefel Cycle Light at Walmart for $19.95 on 2-22-12, it looked like a quality product. However reviews have not been very glowing for this product. 'Vibration sensitive' and 'stopped working shortly after purchase' comments are causing me concern. Any other light reccommendations? Thanks a lot. Also here is my Florida paved trails website: http://www.trailviewmount.com
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I bought that combo some time back. The reviews are right, it's junk.

I had to fiddle with the rear light for it to stay on- the contact points for the battery had to be spread further apart to keep tension with the battery. It's okay if you're riding on MUPs, but can't say the same about in traffic. The springs in the battery holder on the front light had to be spread out a bit as well, and then the switch started having connection issues as well. And the mount on the bars isn't the best designed thing in the world, either.

As far as possible suggestions as a replacement go, what do you need the light for (to see or be seen) and how much are you willing to spend. You might go check out the under $50 thread in Electronics for a headlight. Tip: start at the end and work your way back, as technology has changed since it was started.
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I don't buy bike stuff at Walmart. But they do have good prices on t-shirts.
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Even a $19.00 light from Blackburn has a lifetime limited warranty.
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Anything Planet Bike makes...but they won't be at WM prices.

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Thanks for all the info everyone. I won't be using this light until May, so I'll give an updated report then. Possibly they have improved this light.
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Terralux 300 flashlight on Ebay around $40. Then buy a mount separately, or rig something up on your own, such as those big thick rubber o-rings to strap to the bars.

If you want a "be seen" light so cars see you, but that is useless at lighting the road, then the cheap lights are ok. If you actually want to light the road so you can see where you're going, then you need a real light. The terralux is like my MagicShine on the low setting.

You can go to the lighting forum for more discussions.

EDIT: I use rechargeable AA in the Terralux
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I bought one last year and used it quite a bit and it worked fine. I wouldn’t maybe take it on a cross country tour but for 20 bucks I thought it was a nice little light. The flashlight that slips in the holder is the same size as the ones you see sold everyplace now so if it dies you can get a replacement at any hardware store and maybe one with more LED’s in it. It’s not a light that will really light your way well enough to ride in pitch black at full speed, but cars will see it. The blinker does a good job of letting you be seen. I like to run two blinkers a second on my helmet and a second head light on the helmet. Belt and suspenders is what I call it. In the back you won’t notice if your light dies right away plus the combination of a fixed blinker and one moving around with your head is really easy to see from a distance and your head is a high point in traffic. Having an extra head light on helmet gives you light where you look like off to the side of the path for dogs and skunks.
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Niterider. made in San Diego. now offer USB recharge,
to bring the charge up while, a cubicle bound serf.. at work
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You bought a price, not a product.
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There's an interesting thing about that Zefal light package - there's no mention of it Zefal's webpage. In fact, they don't have ANY lights on their webpage. Makes me wonder if this is actually a Zefal-authorized product. Considering the reputation of some their products (I'm thinking air pumps), I'm surprised they'd sell such a poor product (based onsome of the reviews I've read).

http://www.zefal.com/en/
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IIRC, that combo is distributed by Pacific Cycle...
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I am sure it has been said, but almost anything over that Zephal set, they suck. The headlight will flicker over every bump and eventually starts to short against the light body.
Planet bike makes some decent cheap "to be seen" lights. If you are looking to be able to see in the dark then consider something like the Nite Rider, etc. that really puts out light. Going cheap on a light just takes away money you could have spent towards something nice in the first place.
Just as a side note, USB rechargeable is super handy.
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There's an interesting thing about that Zefal light package - there's no mention of it Zefal's webpage. In fact, they don't have ANY lights on their webpage. Makes me wonder if this is actually a Zefal-authorized product. Considering the reputation of some their products (I'm thinking air pumps), I'm surprised they'd sell such a poor product (based onsome of the reviews I've read).

http://www.zefal.com/en/
I am assuming they sold the branding rights...

Kind of like an LBS Scwhinn and a WM Schwinn they both come with wheels and a chain.

Not at all uncommon today. I have seen it on a wide variety of products from steam irons to lawnmowers to chainsaws. Big national (or even international) retail chains have an item made for them that meets their specifications so they can advertise it at a lower price than the regular model product. It pays to check the manufacturer's website and see if the item is listed. I ran into this with a chainsaw from Lowe's, it was not on the manufacturer website. Local dealer didn't want to work on it, take it back to Lowe's for a refund.

As a side note read the story of Snapper lawnmower and WM.

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I've had good luck with knog lights. I currently have the USB rechargable "boomer". Water resistant, projects light well, and fastens without hardware. Its a bit pricey but at least I won't have to keep buying batteries.
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I bought both tsl. It looked like a quailty product. I just didn't do my research. Lumens is very important. Thanks for all the info everyone.
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For what's worth everyone. Topeak Whitelight is 90 lumens, Cateye has no lumen info anywhere, and Mako Nightrider 2 is 130 lumens. Zefel is only 25 lumens. My research continues. Also my website has lots of info and photos on Florida paved trails: http://www.trailviewmount.com/
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I've decided that if the manufacturer does not list the light output in lumens, then I should consider it a "be seen" light. If one of those is what you are looking for, I can reccommend this axiom 3 LED headlight . I've had one for over a year now. USB rechargeable, convenient and fits in my seatpack. Quite bright for what it is. Good for when I am out closer to dark then I'd planned.

The matching taillight is also very good and highly visible.

For intentional riding after dark I have a 200 lumen Cygolite
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Thanks Yo Spiff. I will check that light out as well as the others recommended here. Thanks everyone. http://www.trailviewmount.com/
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As and FYI Lumens are only one parameter to look at, also check beam pattern. I typically run a dyno powered headlight, the old halogens were ~18 lux and did an okay job. I am running a B&M Cyo and a Fly at the moment they are rated around 50 lux, world of difference. I would consider anything over 25 lux okay for most street use, and go up from there. To me the beam pattern is more important that the total number of lux.

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As and FYI Lumens are only one parameter to look at, also check beam pattern.
Agreed, though the beam pattern is something that can only be compared by reading detailed reviews from those who already own it. Total light output is at least something that can give a rough idea of how well it will light up the road.
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