After a long distance cycling, how much weight you lose
05-11-12, 07:18 AM
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05-11-12, 02:18 PM
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Only true if you're still counting calories based on the dumb logic of the 70's & 80's that brought us the silly food pyramid and low fat diet that launched America's obesity troubles and carb dependency.
Cycling is simply not going to drop much weight. For those who claim otherwise, especially those on a serious weight loss program, it was likely something else good that cut the weight. I'm reminded this every time I see riders chugging sugary drinks and eating Clif bars REI told them to buy. Not talking about Pros, just the rest of us.
It's the absence of evil flour products, sugar, and simple carbs (ALL processed foods) that really drop the weight in my experience. This has been proven and scientifically backed in Gary Taube's book "Why we get fat", which may change many minds on calories in & out logic.
Cycling is simply not going to drop much weight. For those who claim otherwise, especially those on a serious weight loss program, it was likely something else good that cut the weight. I'm reminded this every time I see riders chugging sugary drinks and eating Clif bars REI told them to buy. Not talking about Pros, just the rest of us.
It's the absence of evil flour products, sugar, and simple carbs (ALL processed foods) that really drop the weight in my experience. This has been proven and scientifically backed in Gary Taube's book "Why we get fat", which may change many minds on calories in & out logic.
Just because it is too simple for you doesnt mean it wont work for me. I went from 200lbs down to 170 by.....gasp....staying hungry. I never left the meal table "full" but well satisfied. That included 3 main meals and one evening snack.
I was doing one long distance (60-80 mile ride) on the weekend and one hill attack, one 20mi TT.
And doing everything wrong, something turned out right. I'm stronger, faster and lighter.
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That chart seems to show carbohydrate intake dropping from the turn of the century until the mid-60's, then rising again.
May I ask if you know what the cause of that dip is? I'm not well-versed on historical eating trends.
May I ask if you know what the cause of that dip is? I'm not well-versed on historical eating trends.
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Have you heard of the "Great Depression" and "World War II"?
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Then it kinds of levels off through the Korean war ... and then the Vietnam war.
When were you born? If you're familiar with the 70s, you'll know why that chart makes sense.
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Well ... throughout the 70s women started working outside the home more and more, so there was less time for things like gardening. McDonalds (and other fast food places) really started taking off in the 1960s and 1970s. More people purchased TVs and TV dinners became more popular. And microwave ovens started to become popular in about the mid-1970s.
With all those "advances", the traditional "home cooked" meal of meat and two veg became a rarity.
With all those "advances", the traditional "home cooked" meal of meat and two veg became a rarity.
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I'm not sure I'm buying all of your theory, Machka. Obviously people's diets got poorer in the depression, but I'd have thought that might have increased the carb intake as they couldn't afford meat and had to get most of their nourishment from cheaper foods like potatoes. So I don't find the fall in carb consumption to be self-explanatory.
As for the wartime situation, it was of course different in the states but I'm pretty sure that in the UK, carb consumption rose. The pressure to be self-sufficient with regard to food led to more land being used for arable farming than for pasture, because that was the most efficient way to feed people. And it resulted in bread and potatoes being the principal source of calories. Meat and other animal products were tightly rationed.
With regard to the rise in carb intakes from the seventies onwards, I tend to agree with you. I'm guessing that is to do with processed food, the addition of corn syrup to lots of things, and people getting more calories from simple sugars rather than complex carbs. And the increase in fat is really striking, as Eugenek said. More sugar plus more fat. Predictable results.
As for the wartime situation, it was of course different in the states but I'm pretty sure that in the UK, carb consumption rose. The pressure to be self-sufficient with regard to food led to more land being used for arable farming than for pasture, because that was the most efficient way to feed people. And it resulted in bread and potatoes being the principal source of calories. Meat and other animal products were tightly rationed.
With regard to the rise in carb intakes from the seventies onwards, I tend to agree with you. I'm guessing that is to do with processed food, the addition of corn syrup to lots of things, and people getting more calories from simple sugars rather than complex carbs. And the increase in fat is really striking, as Eugenek said. More sugar plus more fat. Predictable results.
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I'm on course to lose 2lbs this week. Just have to be patient.
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