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Old 06-07-12, 07:36 AM   #1
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Cruiser bikes - are they considered hybrids?

Don't see a forum dedicated to cruiser bikes. Would those be considered hybrids? I've been thinking of volunteering at the local bike co-op and building a cruiser bike for my wife. Not sure what drivetrain I would be able to get, or what type would really be suited for her. She probably wouldn't want to deal with 3 front chain rings and 8-speed rear cassette like is on my bike.

*edit* dangit just now saw the sticky about cruisers.
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I've seen cruisers with single speed coaster, 2-speed kickback coaster, 3-speed coaster IGH, 3 and 7 speed freewheel IGH.

One of those options should work for her if she's a derailleurophobe
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No a cruiser is not a hybrid. I highly recommend IGH for wives. I bought my new bride a nice new shiny hybrid GT Slipstream, she rode it but was frustrated with it. Several years later we won a Raleigh Colt 3 speed as a door prize, added a wicker basket and it fast became her favorite bike. She rode it more in the next 6 months than she had ridden the hybrid in the previous 5 years. She now has 3-4 bikes with IGH and I am building her up a couple more.

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The problem with cruisers is Too Much Metal. You can design a quite ordinary hybrid to be really good at its humdrum task in the way that Breezer bikes are. Cruiser design is all about looks and almost nothing to do with performance.
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Don't see a forum dedicated to cruiser bikes. Would those be considered hybrids? I've been thinking of volunteering at the local bike co-op and building a cruiser bike for my wife. Not sure what drivetrain I would be able to get, or what type would really be suited for her. She probably wouldn't want to deal with 3 front chain rings and 8-speed rear cassette like is on my bike.
Cruisers are the Grandad bike of all other types of bicycles.

Let me direct your attention to this sticky thread for more on the Cruisers.............

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...ser-quot-forum

While I've owned many types of bicycles the Cruiser is ,and has always been, my preferred type of bicycle.
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Steel: nearly a thousand years of metallurgical development
Aluminum: barely a hundred, which one would you rather have under your butt at 30mph?

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Weeelllll, technically I'd consider the diamond-frame fixed-gear to be the granddaddy of all modern bikes, but cruisers definitely played a big role in the American bicycle scene.
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Cruisers are the Grandad bike of all other types of bicycles.

Let me direct your attention to this sticky thread for more on the Cruisers.............

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...ser-quot-forum

While I've owned many types of bicycles the Cruiser is ,and has always been, my preferred type of bicycle.
You didn't see my edit eh?
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You didn't see my edit eh?
Nah, he just couldn't resist the opportunity to spread misinformation.
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Cruisers can be hybridized, old hippies did that, then they became
what we now call mountain bikes.
this is a re issue of the earlier hybridized cruiser mountain bike.
http://www.bikepedia.com/QuickBike/B...nker&Type=bike
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She probably wouldn't want to deal with 3 front chain rings and 8-speed rear cassette
then its a prime candidate for a frame spread to fit an IGH.
3,5,7,8, 11,& 14 speeds ..

+ Sram and Sturmey make hybrid hubs,
8~9 speed cassette on an IGH 3 speed, Single ring crank,
rather than triple crank.

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Nah, he just couldn't resist the opportunity to spread misinformation.
There you go again!

Showing your ass again!

Sorry for going off topic but I get tired of the ever present smart ass that just has to take cheap shots.
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The first "official" bike race was in 1868, which was around the time modern bicycles were being developed. So I would say the racing bike was the grand daddy of all the bicycles. And I say that as a B ride kinda guy.
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The problem with cruisers is Too Much Metal. You can design a quite ordinary hybrid to be really good at its humdrum task in the way that Breezer bikes are. Cruiser design is all about looks and almost nothing to do with performance.
This is not always true, when my Trek Cruiseliner was built up like a normal Cruiser, it was only a pound or two heavier than an average hybrid, and with an 8 speed IGH, it could move at a pretty good pace too.
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The problem with cruisers is Too Much Metal. You can design a quite ordinary hybrid to be really good at its humdrum task in the way that Breezer bikes are. Cruiser design is all about looks and almost nothing to do with performance.
Hmmmmm ..... so why is that so attractive in women and not in bikes???
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This is not always true, when my Trek Cruiseliner was built up like a normal Cruiser, it was only a pound or two heavier than an average hybrid, and with an 8 speed IGH, it could move at a pretty good pace too.
+1 If you choose the proper metal, it can be competitive with high end hybrids. Cruiser shape, cruiser style, hot rod performance

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This is not always true, when my Trek Cruiseliner was built up like a normal Cruiser, it was only a pound or two heavier than an average hybrid, and with an 8 speed IGH, it could move at a pretty good pace too.
No, it's not always true (few things like this are "always"). It's generally true. The fact that there are exceptions doesn't invalidate the general observation.

It also sound like your bike was a custom set-up (making it even more of an exception).

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The first "official" bike race was in 1868, which was around the time modern bicycles were being developed. So I would say the racing bike was the grand daddy of all the bicycles. And I say that as a B ride kinda guy.
People race lawn mowers too. That doesn't make them "racing (specific)" lawn mowers.
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Cruisers are the Grandad bike of all other types of bicycles.

Let me direct your attention to this sticky thread for more on the Cruisers.............

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...ser-quot-forum

While I've owned many types of bicycles the Cruiser is ,and has always been, my preferred type of bicycle.
To each his own, of course. (I don't think you ride much.)
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Don't see a forum dedicated to cruiser bikes. Would those be considered hybrids?
Bike types blend together. Typically, cruisers are bikes designed for short, flat, and slow riding (upright posture and limited gearing range is common).

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I've been thinking of volunteering at the local bike co-op and building a cruiser bike for my wife. Not sure what drivetrain I would be able to get, or what type would really be suited for her. She probably wouldn't want to deal with 3 front chain rings and 8-speed rear cassette like is on my bike.
If she is going to do do short, flat, slow rides, then a typical cruiser would be a good choice. If there's a chance of doing longer rides (10-20 miles) with any sort of hills, she's going to want gears (hills are a big source of frustration for casual riders). Other people suggested an internal geared hub (IGH). That's a good one (but one with some range. That is, not a three speed, unless the rides are all flat).

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No, it's not always true (few things like this are "always"). It's generally true. The fact that there are exceptions doesn't invalidate the general observation.

It also sound like your bike was a custom set-up (making it even more of an exception).
There are several other examples of reasonably spry cruisers.

Gary Fisher Klunker
KHS Brentwood
KHS Fleetwood
Breezer Ignaz X

But yeah, one usually thinks of 50+ pound pigs when one thinks of cruisers. Maybe the ones above should be classed performance cruisers?
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There are several other examples of reasonably spry cruisers.

Gary Fisher Klunker http://www.bikepedia.com/QuickBike/B...nker&Type=bike
KHS Brentwood http://www.khsbicycles.com/07_brentwood_m_08.htm -> hybrid
KHS Fleetwood http://www.bikepedia.com/QuickBike/B...wood&Type=bike
Breezer Ignaz X -> http://www.bikepedia.com/quickbike/B...az+X&Type=bike
"Reasonably spry" is a bit of a waffle. Anyway, there is nothing wrong with these bikes but if one is interested in long rides, there isn't really anything to recommend them for that use.

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But yeah, one usually thinks of 50+ pound pigs when one thinks of cruisers.
Because most of them are" 50+ pound pigs" (though probably not quite 50 lbs)!

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Maybe the ones above should be classed performance cruisers?
Nah. They are just cruisers with gears. They address the big problem with typical cruisers: sucking for casual riders on any sort of hill.

Many casual riders choose cruisers for the "simplicity" and "nostalgia" and then let them molder in the garage because the real world often has hills.

Anyway, as I said bicycle types blend together. It's pretty easy to find bikes that sit between types. ("Cruiser" also applies to the "style"/appearance of the frame.) Cruisers exist merely because of "style" and "fashion". Beyond that, there isn't anything much to recommend them.

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I shoulda specified the late 90s KHS Brentwood, not the newer comfort bike Brentwoods.

http://www.bikepedia.com/quickbike/B...wood&Type=bike

Derailer geared cruiser options have been around since the 1970s, if not longer.

2-speed and 3-speed IGH cruisers for a little longer
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"Reasonably spry" is a bit of a waffle. Anyway, there is nothing wrong with these bikes but if one is interested in long rides, there isn't really anything to recommend them for that use.
I always wanted a KHS Fleetwood. IGH, Brooks B-17, butterscotch tires, curvy frame and not overly heavy.
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I shoulda specified the late 90s KHS Brentwood, not the newer comfort bike Brentwoods.

http://www.bikepedia.com/quickbike/B...wood&Type=bike
Ahh. That sort of bike (with a IGH) might be a good choice for the OP's wife (as long as it's not too heavy).

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Derailer geared cruiser options have been around since the 1970s, if not longer.
I know. It's still kind of "meh". They aren't better (performance wise) than other reasonably-available options. Their only distinctive attribute is "style" (which is fine if that's what people want).

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2-speed and 3-speed IGH cruisers for a little longer
The range of 2-3 gearing is too low for rides of any sort of distance in the real world for most people (unless it's real flat).
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