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    Bike left outside for 5 years, internal frame rust, is it worth keeping?

    Bike was $300 when I got it, it's a Haro Backtrail X3.

    It was left outside for 5 years all seasons. I believe the whole inside is rusted, based on a quick look up from the forks to the handlebars. I'm wondering if it's worth keeping and fixing or if I should just buy a new one. Money is not really an issue, I've got some saved up and I'd rather not spend money on fixing up this old bike if it won't be worth it. I also have another bike that's in the same condition with worse frame rust and a dent.

    If I were to fix this, I think I'd probably need new bearings, a seat, brakes, rims and tires.

    I'll upload some pictures in a moment, taking them now.



    Pictures added! I can upload some more if needed, just ask.
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    http://imgur.com/pjGat,Dzm3A,QbsG5
    Frame
    http://imgur.com/X6UkJ,nxRdu,2C1j2,FE80R
    Last edited by Mike10925; 06-07-12 at 01:58 PM.

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    Drag it by an LBS to get their inspection/triage..
    not able to judge remotely.. I'm not there. good luck.

    .. of course, desert vs seashore.. 'outside' is different..
    Last edited by fietsbob; 06-08-12 at 08:37 AM.

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    Depending on how bad it is, it may or may or may not be worth keeping. I would guess, however, that after this amount of time and weathering that it is not worth the effort. The costs (in time, replacement and repairs) are not going to be less than what you could just get another bike for. I'd look for a new bike, try to clean up that rained on bike as best you can and then get whatever $$$ you can off of craigslist for it.

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    Pictures

    That's why I'm adding pictures. I'm just uploading them to imgur at the moment so I can link them here, my upload speed kind of sucks and these are high res from my camera. (4320x3240)

    If I knew it'd take so long to upload these I'd have done it before starting the thread.

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    Take it apart , and look inside the tubes.

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    Doesn't look bad to me. You are only seeing the inside of the steerer tube though.

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    If it was my bike I wouldn't worry excessively about the frame but, when you start replacing parts like wheelsets, the cost/benefit factor goes away pretty fast.

    As a general rule the cheapest way to buy bike parts is when they are bolted onto a frame.

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    Don't have the tools on me at the moment, but when I get them I'll surely take it apart. I'll look down the seat pipe, up the bottom from the crank and check the steer tube properly (not inside the forks) I just noticed now that I was looking at the inside of the forks, man I feel dumb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fietsbob View Post
    Drag it by an LBS to get their inspection/triage..
    not able to judge remotely.. I'm not there. good luck.
    Unless you have X-ray vision, you wouldn't be able to completely see the inside condition anyway.

    I would say junk it, if you value your health.

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    Worth it for practicing repair skills. Take better care of your next bike!
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    I think I'll end up buying a new bike or building one, though depending on how bad it looks when I get my tools I might fix this one up a bit so I can have something to ride during bad weather and let this take the abuse. You guys want pictures of my other bike? That one is a bit worse off than this one. If any of the two aren't worth fixing, that'd probably be the one.

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    The frame of a $300 bike will generally have adequate wall thickness that a little bit of rust is not going to matter. Unless you see places where the rust is perforating the tubes, keep riding.

    But tear the bike down and apply some type of rust inhibitor first.

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    Is the seat stem loose? If it's frozen and if you ever want to move it, you might find that extremely difficult without trashing the seat tube to break it loose.
    Having a flat tire as part of the total cycling experience is highly overrated. Knowing how to fix one quickly is not.

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    Found a cool Windows XP add-on, I was able to bulk shrink these pictures so I uploaded them all. These are of my other bike, which I believe is way worse off. If you want to see any pictures in the raw size, let me know which ones and I'll upload them. http://imgur.com/odDkv,TteDv,FRcol,i...6d,YiZKo,3dsJt

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    It is like what my father told my mother when my older brother fell into the outhouse .. . . Dad to mom "Not to worry" . . "it is easier to make a new one than clean to old one up"

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    Scrap it and move on..........
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    In the last month of my student days, I was desperate for a bike. My brother had left a Montgomery Ward 10 speed sitting out on the porch for no one knows how long. This was Santa Barbara, it was exposed to rain and the salt air, but it looked okay.

    I inflated the tires, they held air. I oiled the chain with WD-40 and I was in business.

    Two weeks later, the bike felt oddly soft as I rode it down the bike path on campus. The downtube had pulled out of the bottom bracket.
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    Id only fix it up if you have good health insurance.

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