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Old 06-07-12, 10:53 PM   #1
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Who makes a Lugged Steel complete road bike/threaded steerer - less than 1500$?

Seems like if you want this type of traditional looking bike these days you have to pay over 2k.
Lugged steel complete bike with threaded steerer.
Any such animal exist these days?

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Old 06-07-12, 11:29 PM   #2
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The Raleigh makes a lugged road bike, called the Grand Prix.

I have one!
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Thanks for the tip, but that one is threadless. I am looking for threaded.
Looks like all the steel bikes this year at Raleigh are threaded. Not sure about that Port Townsend. Says "Ahead".
Need threadless so I can raise bars up nice n high.
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Thanks for the tip, but that one is threadless. I am looking for threaded.
Looks like all the steel bikes this year at Raleigh are threaded. Not sure about that Port Townsend. Says "Ahead".
Need threadless so I can raise bars up nice n high.
Bikes Direct makes a nice lugged steel bike.
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http://store.somafab.com/sosanmadotof.html

You can get the Soma San Marcos frame direct from them for $950, so you could put a gruppo on it and come in under your $1500 mark. I think they are beautiful frames:
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If you want a lugged frame with a threaded headset, you're probably better off going the second hand route. What's your budget? If money isn't a problem, neither is finding the bike you want.

Agree about the San Marcos frame; I like the Soma Stanyan as well but don't remember offhand whether the fork is threadless or not.

Edit: by the way, insisting on a threaded fork so you can get the bars nice and high does not make, in my opinion, a lot of sense. Getting the bars nice and high can and does make a lot of sense. But that is not a problem with threadless fork if you buy the right sized bike and get one that has a decent length headtube. Most (if not all) of Soma's bikes have a longer headtube.

Lugged steel bikes can be a bit harder to find which is why the OP's budget is important.

Edit: sorry missed the bit about the $1500 budget. Is that for the frame or the bike? If the latter, yeah my guess is you're not going to find much if anything.

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Buy something in the C&V sales section or CL or Ebay. If it's a f&f build to suit, if it's acomplete bike part it out and build to suit.
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Need threadless so I can raise bars up nice n high.
Better save some budget money for a Tachnomic stem then. The stock stem probably isn't going to give you as much height adjustment as you want.
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Google bicycle stem riser. Those devices, combined with a steep angle stem if necessary, will raise bars to just just about any height and even more than a threaded stem will.

But the question is whether a road bike with high handlebars the best choice for your riding?
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But the question is whether a road bike with high handlebars the best choice for your riding?
Even if it's not, how can you know for sure until you try? The nice thing about using a stem riser is it's easily undone if you decide you don't need your handlebars so high.
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Better save some budget money for a Tachnomic stem then. The stock stem probably isn't going to give you as much height adjustment as you want.
Nitto for sure. And with a threaded stem, it'll get me there even if the stock stem is short.
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[QUOTE=Toadie;14329557]http://store.somafab.com/sosanmadotof.html

You can get the Soma San Marcos frame direct from them for $950, so you could put a gruppo on it and come in under your $1500 mark. I think they are beautiful frames:QUOTE]



That's what I am eyeballing for the moment. Nice price and perfect frame for what I am looking for.

I just put in a call to a LBS Soma dealer to see how much for frame and 105 build.

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C&V is the way to go. I have 3 of them. Two of the three are ready, able and very nice rides.

Just picked up the '89 Raleigh Technium PRE for 100.00 about 2mos ago. It's in pristine condition, barely used and was professionally maintained. It's a pleasure to ride.

The '85 Trek 460 is an entry level road racer great for training rides and fast 30's and 40's. That one was given to me. Excellent condition.

Seriously, be patient and check your local Craigslist and classifieds. There are plenty of nice bikes available for a fraction of your price ceiling.
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If the Soma doesn't work out, looks like I will be headin' to Clist. There is a B-stone on there that I went out to see last week that I am still pondering...
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Edit: by the way, insisting on a threaded fork so you can get the bars nice and high does not make, in my opinion, a lot of sense. Getting the bars nice and high can and does make a lot of sense. But that is not a problem with threadless fork if you buy the right sized bike and get one that has a decent length headtube. Most (if not all) of Soma's bikes have a longer headtube.
Agree with the message, but note that while I like Soma's (I'm a Smoothie owner) the Stanyon has a particular issue of having a very short HT (or did, when I was looking, not sure if they changed this), making it a bit more problematic getting the H-bar at seat level.
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Seriously, be patient and check your local Craigslist and classifieds. There are plenty of nice bikes available for a fraction of your price ceiling.
Not in my neck of the woods. It seems whenever I find a bike that I want (tough too as I'm almost 6'5") for a price that I want, it's when I'm at work. I call the guy and the bike is already sold or is first come, first serve and I don't have the option of leaving work. Grrr ! I've found some great ones on Ebay, but when you add in the shipping it becomes not so nice. I'm still working the CL angle though. I'll get lucky one of these days.....
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Not in my neck of the woods. It seems whenever I find a bike that I want (tough too as I'm almost 6'5") for a price that I want, it's when I'm at work. I call the guy and the bike is already sold or is first come, first serve and I don't have the option of leaving work. Grrr ! I've found some great ones on Ebay, but when you add in the shipping it becomes not so nice. I'm still working the CL angle though. I'll get lucky one of these days.....
It can definitely be a challenge to score on Craigs. I missed out on quite a few bikes before I scored this 86 Peugeot Triathlon for $250.

It was definitely worth the wait and hassle.
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Anyone got any ideas about a build that would be nice but inexpensive to put on the San Marcos? I'm just a commuter and recreational rider, so having the absolute lightest,tightest running components isn't so critical to me.
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I would probably hit up eBay and get a full Shimano 600 8 speed STI group (seen them go for $150) to keep that awesome retro look with the convenience of STI. You could also set it up with bar cons even cheaper.
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check out one of the Velo Orange frames
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Threadless forks typically start out, about, .3M long , before cutting..
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I completely forgot about the Raleigh Record Ace:



It has a threadless headset, but as has already been mentioned that shouldn't stop you from raising the bars. It comes with full 105, and while the MSRP is $1800, you may be able to find one cheaper.

Also the Raleigh Grand Prix that retails at $1300-ish with Sora:
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