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Old 01-10-05, 10:47 PM   #1
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Whats wrong with wearing....

a Pro team jersey? A friend of mine was wearing a UPS 2004 team jersey and got made fun of for being a 'poser' Shouldn't you be able to wear any jersey you want and not get made fun of?!? Geez. This just really pissed me off and I would like to hear some honest opinions.
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nothing. move on with your life.
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Was the poser comment a joke? If not, I have to hand it to the person who said that. Normally, no one should really getting too upsat about seeing other riders wearing a pro team jersey. Part of the cycling culture, especially if you are racing, you shouldn't wear a team jersey that you don't belong too. Basically, your friend is all about the look without the physical fitness to back it up.
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Basically, your friend is all about the look without the physical fitness to back it up.
how do you poop with that stick stuck up there?
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I wear a Fedex jersey and nobody laughs at me.
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I probably wouldn't have made fun of him. I generally steer clear of w@nkers.

If he had been wearing a jersey that indicated he had achieved something or was a real member of a team, that might be different in terms of respect level.
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If they say "I'm wearing the kit because I like team (insert team name here)" I'm cool with that.

It's the guys/gals that wear the pro kit and act like @$$holes who make everyone think that people wearing pro kit is a jerk.

Same thing like us and SUV's. One person ruins it for everybody.
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That's how it is. It is usually the truth. I have ridden next to a guy in the NY MS Bike Tour and he was all decked out with the team Euskaltel kit including the Orca and down with the shoe cover. The Spanish team is known for their climbing ability. Well, he was no where insight as soon as we tackled the last climb to the Alpine police station, a mile long 10% grade climb. There were only 12 or so riders up in the front and they weren't wearing any flashy team kits. I was also the one who attacked the group at the half way point.

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What one wears is personal...I can think of one phrase that is appropriate to such harassment...Aussie's and New Yorkers' say it a lot.. Well, most everyone really.
Of course , unless the kit wearer is acting like a poser, personality and all..Then he is a poser.
I think wearing your favorite teams kit is cool...Maybe I would not wear my 'bonjour jersey' to certain organized events..
Just your daily training ride...Nobody's business.
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That's how it is. It is usually the truth. I have ridden next to a guy in the NY MS Bike Tour and he was all decked out with the team Euskaltel kit including the Orca and down with the shoe cover. The Spanish team is known for their climbing ability. Well, he was no where insight as soon as we tackled the last climb to the Alpine police station, a mile long 10% grade climb. There were only 12 or so riders up in the front and they weren't wearing any flashy team kits. I was also the one who attacked the group at the half way point.
So suppose the guy was able to keep up with you, even attack you. Would it be OK for him to wear the jersey then?

If not, then what's your point? That you climb better than some guy nobody knows? Good for you!

If yes, then what makes you the judge for a pro team? The pro teams have obviously given their consent to retailers to sell team jerseys. Maybe you should tell them what they are doing is not right.
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I get a chuckle out of most riders in logo emblazoned jerseys. It just makes me laugh. Especially couples in matching logo wear, or a 'peloton' of five out on the bike path in matching jerseys. But I've always been pretty anti logo, anti wearing of advertising.
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nothing´s wrong with it, people can wear whatever they like. lots of kids wear jordan jerseys or shorts and none of them plays like him. but it doesn´t matter, they´re happy with it and that´s it. i normally just wear t-shirts with the logo of my college or a nike one with agassi in the back and sempras in the front, love that t-shirt.
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Old 01-11-05, 06:56 AM   #13
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Dickheads exist in all walks of life. One of the keys to being at peace with yourself and your choices is to learn early on to ignore them.
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As a bike commuter, sometimes when people ask me why I wear all these jerseys that have logos and stuff on them, I say to them that it makes me stand out and be more visible. Obviously, they noticed enough to ask me about it, I figure it works that way on the road. When I'm bike touring or so, I typically don't wear anything flashy because I'm short on space and in any case, not biking during rush hour or anything...

So, there is another side to wearing fancy jerseys. I'm not paying the exhorbitant prices for pro team jerseys though. If I'm advertising for USPS/T-mobile/Phonak/Jelly Belly, I think I should get a DISCOUNT!

The jerseys that I do own have all been bought for like under $10 from travelling vendors at bike events and they are typically anything from the 2002 Cyclocross world championship or some other ride that I've never heard of.

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Jeez, everyone on the trail has some kind of "team" jersey on... I have seen 3 or 4 with the UPS one on. I never thought bad of them. The lbs near me says they are one of the biggest sellers.
Tell the guy who made fun of you to stick it.. Tell him he is dressed like a human being so he must be a poser as well..
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I don't know about this topic. For instance my father (62) is a HUGE lance fan and has more than one USPS jersey. He is also seriously looking at buying a Trek 5200 (or Madone 5.2). Is he a poser? I would like to think not, he is a cancer survivor, a Sr games and local racer (unattached) and has completed an unsupported cross country ride on a Cannondale R600 (not the most comfortable bike IMO for a 3000 plus mile ride).

That said when I was at the Tour of Hope, as a rider, this past fall when I looked around at all of the guys decked out in full USPS team kit that obviously weren't Posties made me laugh, ESPECIALLY since a bunch of real USPS riders were riding with us including Lance. To me they looked like major dorks.

So there is a line there somewhere but I couldn't tell you where it is.
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I only wear Jerseys I've earned, but, hey, if someone wants to shell out the cash for the full USPS kit, who cares...But, if you show up in the parking lot with the whole Pro team Kit, and if you can't ride the way you look, you'd better expect some ridicule from somebody, thats how the cycling social structure works....
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Is called racing. Happens a lot when I race cat 4 last year. They weren't pros but they sure belong to the team they are racing for.


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So suppose the guy was able to keep up with you, even attack you. Would it be OK for him to wear the jersey then?

If not, then what's your point? That you climb better than some guy nobody knows? Good for you!

If yes, then what makes you the judge for a pro team? The pro teams have obviously given their consent to retailers to sell team jerseys. Maybe you should tell them what they are doing is not right.
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a Pro team jersey? A friend of mine was wearing a UPS 2004 team jersey and got made fun of for being a 'poser' Shouldn't you be able to wear any jersey you want and not get made fun of?!? Geez. This just really pissed me off and I would like to hear some honest opinions.
This "Poser/Team Jersey" BS is incredible. Does anyone think that another rider is going to mistake someone tooling down the road at 18 mph as a pro? The cagers could care less - they are simply trying to run you over. Everyone wears team jerseys. I happen to like the colors of the mostly yellow ONCE jersey. Riders simply enjoy the looks of the jerseys they wear - who are the going to fool?

It is a non subject, and those who accuse others of being posers are typically the type that take the negative side of every issue.

BTW, I typically wear a plain white jersey, but I do love my two ONCE jerseys.
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I only wear Jerseys I've earned, but, hey, if someone wants to shell out the cash for the full USPS kit, who cares...But, if you show up in the parking lot with the whole Pro team Kit, and if you can't ride the way you look, you'd better expect some ridicule from somebody, thats how the cycling social structure works....
Oh sure, I expect someone who shows up at the local club ride in a pro kit to ride like a pro. Sure - that's right. You must ride with people who take themselves a bit too seriously! To get looked down upon in your group, must you also wear the team socks or is the jersey and bib enough to garner sneers? Is it okay if I just outride you in my jersey to avoid ridicule or must I outsprint the whole group. Just want the strict rules. LMFAO
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The poser factor is bull. Tell everyone who wears ajersey of any sport they're a poser and see how many black eyes you get. More importantly, why do cyclists love to hate on every other cyclists style of riding? There are a lot of us, and we all have different goals in mind with our riding. There are at least 5 different types of mountain biking, not counting pavement. Fixed riders love the zen simplicity of their beautiful machines. Roadies go from full on team lycra on a 15 pound compact frame to wool jerseys on their Rivendell tourer. I ride my bike and see these people and smile, and if they want to sneer at what I'm riding, fine. My goals are not your goals, and everyone should not be held up to a racing standard, even if they dress like Lance! God told me that bike snobs are doomed to ride single speed cruisers dressed as bananas in the Alps for eternity anyway, so get your yuks in while you can!
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Other sports don't seem to have this problem. Soccer shirts are a huge source of revenue for teams in Europe. No one expects you to be able to play like David Beckham just because you have his shirt on.

I haven't actually got any team shirts but I have no problem with people wearing them and showing their support for cycling in the same way.

There is just a nasty undercurrent of snobbishness in the bike world that says if you cant ride faster then me then you dont deserve a nicer bike/kit than me. How fast do I have to be able to cycle and over what distance before I can get a Discovery Channel jersey- or do I just have to be able to cycle faster than everyone I meet not wearing team kit (hope you dont meet Lance on his day off R600 Duraace). if someone could just let me know.

My wife is not too fast either does she have to ride on a badly adjusted Walmart bike wearing a cheap tracksuit

Some people just need to grow up.
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Hey, I don't really care what you wear, you can go naked for all I care...I'm just saying, you are gonna get some crap from somebody, like it or not, thats the way its always been...How many times have you been on a ride and you've passed or been passed by a cycling snob, ever notice what they look at first, your bike, like the type of person or rider I am is determined by what brand of bike I ride....Cycling seems to have a caste like social structure, hasn't changed in the past 20 years, doubt it will ever change....

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Is not so hard to spot Lance. I can even tell by his pedaling motion. His is very unique. How about those who show up on a charity ride or group ride with a pair of Zipp wheels??????
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I have a USPS water bottle. I don't want to be called a poser. Should I chuck it?
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