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Old 05-02-02, 06:41 AM   #1
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cycling pronunciation key

Since most of what I learn about cycling comes from print, either web or magazines, I'm lost on some of the pronunciations. I'd like to get some of them clarified before I meet another cyclist somewhere and come off as a total newbie by mis-pronouncing anything. Here's the list so far:

word----------the way I think it should be pronounced
gruppo ----------group-o
peleton ----------pail-e-tahn - the big group of riders, I probably mispelled it, too.
derailleur --------dee-railer

More to come...

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Old 05-02-02, 06:56 AM   #2
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word----------the way I think it should be pronounced
gruppo ----------group-o
peleton ----------pail-e-tahn - the big group of riders, I probably mispelled it, too.
derailleur --------dee-railer

Hi Purple Hayes..

I guess you can pronounce it anyway you want to, but I got

Peleton ----------Pel-et-on
Derailler ---------- Dur-rail-i-er

Any other takers?

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I say it this way:

Derailleur -- Dee Rail Your


Here's a couple others:


pneumatic -- New Matt Ick


Campagnolo -- Camp Anne Ollo or simply Campy


Mavic -- MA Veek
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Of course if you paid attention in language classes in school that would help

Gruppo - That's right - (Italian)
Peleton - Pell-a-tahn - (French)
Derailleur - De-rail-yer - (French)

here's a new one...

Echelon - Esh-a-lon (French) That is is like a pace-line except you are lined up staggered on the road to help fight a crosswind.

Do a search on "cycling terms" in a search engine and you'll learn a lot more about the words that are commonly used in racing and cycling, although I haven't found one that helps in pronounciation.

Correct me if anyone thinks I messed up.
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word----------the way I think it should be pronounced
gruppo ----------group-o
peleton ----------pail-e-tahn - the big group of riders, I probably
My understanding was that peleton was supposed to be pronouced with a French from France Accent (as oppsed to Quebecois where I am from) as pe-le-ton.

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Acutally, this is a pretty helpful thread. I've gotten some funny looks with mispronouciations of Bianchi and Cinelli. I'm still not sure, so somebody please correct me:

Bianchi = be-YON-key
Cinelli = chi-NELLY

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Acutally, this is a pretty helpful thread. I've gotten some funny looks with mispronouciations of Bianchi and Cinelli. I'm still not sure, so somebody please correct me:

Bianchi = be-YON-key
Cinelli = chi-NELLY

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I was under the impression (form the small amount of Italian phonetics that I do know) that they were

bee-AHN-kee and chee-NEL-lee respectivly.


Edited because I made stupid mistake.....

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Geez, I was waaay off on those. I thought it was bee-on-chee and ka-nelly. LOL

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What little Italian I know (which is not much),

CH sounds like C in cat
I sounds like EE in seed.(therefore Bianchi = Be-ahn-kee)

C sounds like CH when followed by E or I (therefore Cinelli = Chi-nelly).

This is taken from an Italian phrase book that I'm boning up on before I go to Italy in June. Wish me luck with the language
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Well, I did speak Italian fluently when I lived there, so I suggest ...

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Campagnolo -- Camp Anne Ollo or simply Campy
Com (as in "dot com") pon (as in "pond") yolo (as in "yo lo" ). And over here, it is decidedly Campa, not Campy.

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P.S. I edited this after I realized that the phonetics I used were Italian, not English. Tricky business this.

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Here's a few more:

Huffy -> Crap. [Krap]
People who drive, but don't bike -> Cagers [Kay-gers]
Morons -> Cagers [Kay-gers]
Encephalic Flatworms -> Cagers [Kay-gers]

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Here's a few more:

Huffy -> Crap. [Krap]
People who drive, but don't bike -> Cagers [Kay-gers]
Morons -> Cagers [Kay-gers]
Encephalic Flatworms -> Cagers [Kay-gers]

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What nickname do you have for those of us that own and drive motor vehicles and are serious cyclists?
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Celeste -- Che LES te?

Serious cyclists who own and drive motor vehicles -- bimodal?
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Aluminium ------ Alu min ium
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Aluminium ------ Al u min i um
Ah, yes -- two countries divided by a common language!
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A bit off topic, but the one that drives me bonkers: orientated. Can one of you Islanders please explain why the extra at syllable is in there? I can deal with aluminium, even though it has an extra letter that appeared from who knows where.

Of course, you do have Real Ale, so all is forgiven.

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Hehe...

I'm not sure why we pronounce it "Al-u-min-ium" but to me, it just sounds better than "A-loo-min-um".

Hehe...just my 2p's

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I take offense to that! My current commuter bike is a Huffy 10-speed. Before it became my commuter bike, it was my racing bike! In the 3 years I have been riding it, I've never had a flat, brake problem, or shifting problem. In fact, no problems at all with it.
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I take offense to that! My current commuter bike is a Huffy 10-speed. Before it became my commuter bike, it was my racing bike! In the 3 years I have been riding it, I've never had a flat, brake problem, or shifting problem. In fact, no problems at all with it.
Does your LBS have a large pentigram drawn on the floor in the workshop area, with goat's blood and a long silver knife sitting in the tool bin?

Your experience with Huffy is uncommon.

Some of the high-end Huffy bikes aren't complete crap; they use low-end Shimano components (which aren't that bad), and don't fly out of adjustment quite as badly. They are still poorly designed and heavy as hell; and that's just the Huffy high-end. Low- and midrange Huffy bikes use El Cheapo Generico componets that are *always* in need of adjustment, exhibit incredibly poor workmanship, and are ready for the scrap-heap within a few years.

To exacerbate this, Huffy bikes are sold in X-marts, where the employees know as much about cycling as I do about the mating behavior of the sperm whale; namely, they know that a bike has two wheels, pedals, and nominally a chain of some sort; and I'm aware that through some process I don't wish to think about, baby whales are produced. An X-mart employee selling a Huffy won't take the time to properly build the bike, true the wheels, tension the spokes, or re-tune the bike after break-in. Most importantly, they don't know how to fit a person to a bike, which is crucial for any signifigant amount of riding.

This wouldn't normally bother me, but I think one of the many reasons kids stop riding bicycles is that they think of these heavy monstrosities of poor mechanics as all a bicycle can be[1].

[1] Irony Alert: Why is it that most parents will spend $500 on a video game system and a stack of titles, but won't invest $300 in their child's cardiovascular health?
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That pesky I has been wandering in and out of the spelling since before Alumin[i]um was isolated as a metal:

http://www.quinion.com/words/articles/aluminium.htm
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Excellent "Irony Alert" posting Matadon!

Maybe parents, too preoccupied and/or burnt out with their daily work responsibilities, feel more *comfortable* having their kids sitting in front of a tv versus zipping around the streets on a bike? Little do they realize the negative consequences of too much sitting around watching tv and playing video games, or heck maybe they do...but it just takes too much effort to do anything about it...lame lame lame.

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Excellent "Irony Alert" posting Matadon!



Maybe parents, too preoccupied and/or burnt out with their daily work responsibilities, feel more *comfortable* having their kids sitting in front of a tv versus zipping around the streets on a bike? Little do they realize the negative consequences of too much sitting around watching tv and playing video games, or heck maybe they do...but it just takes too much effort to do anything about it...lame lame lame.



Total agreement here.

I plan on one day, having kids. This is a bit far in the future, as I'm well aware that at the ripe old age of twenty-one, I have a lot of drunkenness, recklessness, and other such things to attend to. Kids can come when I'm older and wiser.

That being said, I'll buy my eventual kids bicycles before I buy them PlayStation-10s, and they'll get to ride their bikes to school (after a certain age), instead of being ferried everywhere in a car. They may be the only non-fat kids at school, and the only ones capable of passing the "revised" fitness test (capable of walking 100m without passing out cold), but it'll be worth it.
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Total agreement here.

I plan on one day, having kids. This is a bit far in the future, as I'm well aware that at the ripe old age of twenty-one, I have a lot of drunkenness, recklessness, and other such things to attend to. Kids can come when I'm older and wiser.

That being said, I'll buy my eventual kids bicycles before I buy them PlayStation-10s, and they'll get to ride their bikes to school (after a certain age), instead of being ferried everywhere in a car. They may be the only non-fat kids at school, and the only ones capable of passing the "revised" fitness test (capable of walking 100m without passing out cold), but it'll be worth it.
Good plan, Matadon! I am glad I waited for the kid...she is 6y/o now and we ride the bike together on the driveway and in the park down the street...It's a wonderful way to spend time together....Just the other day, Francesca said: "You love biking so much I bet if you got paid to ride everyday, all the time-you would love your job more than the one you have." (Better insight than I have-instead of law school, I should go for bike messenger!)

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