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Aeolis 08-26-12 07:51 AM

Cycle computer
 
I'm looking for a cycle computer that is wireless and doesn't require any sensors to install. All I really want it to do is mph and distance. Anyone have one that they like and can tell me where to get it? Budget is like 150.00.

I bought a 20 dollar one at Wally but
Decided I didn't want to zip tie sensors
And all that nonsense. So I'll be returning it. Again I don't care about routes and gps just something simple. Thanks.

DGoeder 08-26-12 08:14 AM

Knog N.E.R.D. 9.0 computer sounds right. I switched to one when I wanted to go wireless this summer. It's been great and I picked it up on Nashbar for less than $30. Nothing fancy, just time, distance, and speed. Installs without zip ties and is really easy to use.
They have a few models with more features but it sounds like that's all you're looking for.

Aeolis 08-26-12 08:25 AM

So that doesn't have any sensors or anything that need to be installed? I've been using strava on my iPhone but it destroys my battery and I have to keep it in my pocket so I can't see current mph. Thinking about starting interval training. Nashbar is a website?

Machka 08-26-12 08:39 AM

Bike Nashbar: http://www.nashbar.com/bikes/TopCate...10053_10052_-1

gforeman 08-26-12 08:47 AM

I use the CycleMeter App on my iPhone and LOVE it. I have it set to announce speed, average speed, distance, etc. every 15 minutes and every 5 miles (you can customize the announcements). Doesn't work my iPhone 4s battery too much, probably because the screen is off.

Retro Grouch 08-26-12 09:00 AM

I'm thinking that all the bike computer producers have a simple wireless computer that requires just a pick up on the fork. They generally cost around $40.00. That's what I've been using and I'm not even picky about brand because I think that they all work about the same.

Garmin, and I'm sure some others, produce GPS computer sustems that require no pick up. I don't know if you can get one for $150.00 or not. If I'm feeling flush next time around I think that's what I'll get. Otherwise, it's back to the basic wireless with a pick up.

Looigi 08-26-12 11:04 AM

You can't do mph or distance without sensors. You got to sense something to tell how far you've gone. The phone apps and/or gps sense satellites. Other bike computers sense wheel rotation. So called wireless computers still use sensors, it's just that the sensors communicate with the computer via radio waves rather than wires. You still need to install the sensor on the bike and the magnet on a spoke.

Aeolis 08-26-12 11:07 AM

So I'll need a garmin or some gps thing instead of a cycle comp.

JPMacG 08-26-12 11:34 AM

Wired cycle computers are inexpensive, accurate, very reliable and easy to install. Wireless cycle computers are more expensive, just as accurate, less reliable and only slightly easier to install.

I know this does not respond to your question, but I thought I should say it anyway.

DGoeder 08-26-12 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aeolis (Post 14654747)
So I'll need a garmin or some gps thing instead of a cycle comp.


No. The one I posted is all you're looking for. The only actual instalation involved is attaching a magnet to one of your front spokes, positioning the sensor on the fork close to the magnet, and attaching the computer to your handlebars. The Knog is by far the easiest I've dealt with. There is a little bit of setup to the computer to set wheel size, but that is very simple if you follow the instructions.
In my opinion, the setup and instalation of a GPS would be about the same at a lot more cost.

And yes, Nashbar is a website.
http://www.nashbar.com/bikes/Product...2_520345_-1___
edit: I just checked and it's out of stock there. But there are other websites that carry it. I just think they chage more.


Aeolis 08-26-12 06:31 PM

My
iphone is a gps that shows mph and distance without magnets or sensors. What I'm asking for is something similar but isnt my phone as it kills my battery. So as far as I can tell that means I'll need another gps
type unit aand not a cycle comp.

Not that installing a sensor and magnet is terrible I'd just prefer to not. I saw some people posting about a garmin 400 or something, I'll check those oout on the website yyou posted. Thanks again

Mobile 155 08-26-12 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aeolis (Post 14656049)
My
iphone is a gps that shows mph and distance without magnets or sensors. What I'm asking for is something similar but isnt my phone as it kills my battery. So as far as I can tell that means I'll need another gps
type unit aand not a cycle comp.

Not that installing a sensor and magnet is terrible I'd just prefer to not. I saw some people posting about a garmin 400 or something, I'll check those oout on the website yyou posted. Thanks again

You are correct in that if you don't want to put on a sending unit you need something like a garmin with GPS. I don't know wht other gps computers they have but I am not sure you can get one much under $200.00. Maybe the Garmin edge 200 on sale not sure.

JanMM 08-26-12 08:38 PM

I don't understand why attaching a sensor and magnet is such a big deal.

ben4345 08-26-12 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JanMM (Post 14656500)
I don't understand why attaching a sensor and magnet is such a big deal.


It's apparently too hard for some people. *shrug*

There are plenty of wired computers that do not need zip ties.

AndreyT 08-27-12 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JanMM (Post 14656500)
I don't understand why attaching a sensor and magnet is such a big deal.

For some people it make the bicycle less "clean" and therefore "less PRO" (gasp!). This is the same reason there are so many poseurs out there (and here) who frantically invent childishly fake reasons why they don't need saddle bags, spoke protectors, Presta valve caps, frame pumps etc., while in reality we all understand perfectly well that the real reason is that these items make them look "less pro" (however laughable that might be).

bud16415 08-27-12 05:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aeolis (Post 14656049)
My
iphone is a gps that shows mph and distance without magnets or sensors. What I'm asking for is something similar but isnt my phone as it kills my battery. So as far as I can tell that means I'll need another gps
type unit aand not a cycle comp.

Not that installing a sensor and magnet is terrible I'd just prefer to not. I saw some people posting about a garmin 400 or something, I'll check those oout on the website yyou posted. Thanks again

You can buy a mophie battery case for your iPhone for about $100 and more than double your battery life on and off the bike. Very nice product I leave mine on the phone all the time. There are also other products that allow charging on the go and also ways of adjusting your phones setting to slow battery usage. Of course there are many more advanced bike apps than just speed and distance.

Aeolis 08-27-12 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JanMM (Post 14656500)
I don't understand why attaching a sensor and magnet is such a big deal.

Trying to look pro for the milfs on the MUP. "you and yyour bike are sexy but eww what is that clunky black thing on your fork fork!"

REally though I guess I just have a few more bucks to spend this week and I might want maps in the future. They sell iPhone mounting brackets so maybe I'll go in that direction. If I crash though I'd hate to break my phone my bike and injure myself, but most of my falls are still clipless related never any harm done. The battery boosting case looks like a viable option maybe.

bud16415 08-27-12 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aeolis (Post 14657442)
Trying to look pro for the milfs on the MUP.

For what it’s worth. I still ride with a wired bike computer speed and distance and have wireless on other bikes and carry my iPhone in the mophie case. Over the last few years I have went full circle and most likely when I get around to it I will take the wired computer off and just go with the phone.

When I first started playing with the phone on the bike all the fancy bike cases that mount to the bars were not as abundant as they are now and I made my own. Then I got an otter box case and found the belt clip worked great to attack it to the bike if you had a small tab of something attached to the bars to clip it to. For a year I was riding around watching all the cool stuff on the phone and being able to even take a call on speaker phone while riding etc. Then the light came on for me and I realized it was all a bit of a distraction I didn’t need during my ride along with I wasn’t doing my phone any good subjecting it to weather and sun. Battery life is mostly sucked up by the display and I now turn on whatever app I want for a ride and stick my iPhone in the bar bag out of sight it will have all the info for me when I’m done and if I get a call I hear it ring and can pull over and safely take the call. If I need to access a map for directions I pull over and do that. If I’m going down a hill at 35 MPH its best I don’t watch the speed and watch the road. The exception I guess would be if you were training trying to hold a speed or something, I don’t do that so I find I ride better when I just wing it and its fun later to sit down and review the ride and see how I did mile by mile. Just enjoying the views on the MUP.

rebel1916 08-27-12 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndreyT (Post 14657010)
For some people it make the bicycle less "clean" and therefore "less PRO" (gasp!). This is the same reason there are so many poseurs out there (and here) who frantically invent childishly fake reasons why they don't need saddle bags, spoke protectors, Presta valve caps, frame pumps etc., while in reality we all understand perfectly well that the real reason is that these items make them look "less pro" (however laughable that might be).

I have a saddle bag, and one of my bikes has a mini pump, but on one needs any of that stuff. Jersey's have pockets, derailleurs have limit screws, Presta valve caps serve NO function, cartridges and a chock can air up your wheel in seconds much easier than pumping...Am I missing something here?

Aeolis 08-27-12 08:46 AM

I wear a back pack that has all my supplies in it, I guess I do like mmy bike to look clean. Presta caps are whatever but iI'm not a fan of mounting things on my frame. Not trying to look cool just a personal preference. My back pack has 3 wwater bottles, mini pump, bike tools, spare tube, patch kit, phone, wallet, energy bars, headphones (if safe to wear) lights (to be mounted when needed).

rebel1916 08-27-12 10:17 AM

You're carrying a back pack and some interwebs know it all is harping on you for being obsessive about looking pro. BR rules!

Aeolis 08-28-12 10:58 AM

I ended up spending 20 bucks for a wireless computer with the sensor. So far I'm happy with it except I need to stop staring at my speed all the time.

rumrunn6 08-28-12 01:51 PM

bladed carbon forks are harder to position the sensor on, I think

ben4345 08-28-12 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rumrunn6 (Post 14664076)
bladed carbon forks are harder to position the sensor on, I think

I have a bladed CF fork on my bike, no problem with the O-ring holding it on.

Mobile 155 08-28-12 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndreyT (Post 14657010)
For some people it make the bicycle less "clean" and therefore "less PRO" (gasp!). This is the same reason there are so many poseurs out there (and here) who frantically invent childishly fake reasons why they don't need saddle bags, spoke protectors, Presta valve caps, frame pumps etc., while in reality we all understand perfectly well that the real reason is that these items make them look "less pro" (however laughable that might be).

And you derive this wisdom about why people would rather not use a sensor and apply it to posers and fake pros because of all your many years of experience on what a person needs on their bike? :innocent: It seems to me there is a vast difference between a rider in a wicking jersey and cycling shorts and trying to look pro.:eek: Not that looking pro sounds like much of an insult. In fact many times it is considered a compliment. Think of someone saying you sing like a pro or you drive like a pro or you dance like a pro or you paint like a pro.:D From the questions posed by Aeolis I don't see the connection to poser.


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