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Old 10-21-12, 07:10 PM   #1
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Bike Sale question

Hey, I am selling a bike on Craigslist and I got a good bite from a guy. However, he says he doesn't have time to pick up the Bike himself, so he wants to mail me a check and after it clears, arrange for a delivery/moving service to pick up the bike from my location.
The guy's work schedule is the given reason he can't try out the bike in person. But, he seems to know about the model and agreed on my price.
I see no problem in taking a local area check and waiting for it to clear before he takes possession of the bike.
I told him it's a deal if he will email me his personal contact info. But, I don't think I am getting his personal info.
Has anyone run into this before? I'm used to PayPal, so tell me what you think!

UPDATE--I think this "pay first" scam is making it's way around Craigslist. Beware of emails offering asking price plus extra to reserve item. Also, my "buyer" worded his email in a similar fashion as some others I found on a blog about scams! Ok, I might have answered my own question! LOL

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Old 10-21-12, 07:28 PM   #2
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It is a well known SCAM......
Pass on the guy.
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Old 10-21-12, 07:59 PM   #3
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Yeah, I almost bought into it until he mentioned that he works in the mining industry. Then, after we talked about the bike in one email, he said he would have his secretary send me a check.
It sounds like there is a problem with this kind of scam related to furniture ads on Craigslist. Even if you use PayPal, the scammer can claim he never received the goods and petition PayPal for a refund. That is why the scammer tries to coax the seller into making the moving or pickup/delivery service. This scammer even had the name of a well-known bike delivery service I know about based in New England, so it was polished. Plus, he knew about the equipment on my bike.
I was involved in a dispute over a damaged guitar I sold one time and PayPal made my life miserable! That was a legit sale, too!
Thanks 10 Wheels. I'm a sucker!
Now I wonder what else can happen this week!!!
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Old 10-21-12, 08:11 PM   #4
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Ive been on both ends of that situation. More than a few times people have done the above and beyond offer thing. Two sent checks and I had the bank office check them before trying them, both were wiped and rewritten.

On the other end, I was courting a biz deal for a vintage mtb in Cali(from pa) and while we were working out the logistics we got to the payment end and he decided to call it off when I asked how he would like to be paid. Likely had a friend get suspicious...
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Insist on a U.S. Postal money order. Remind the buyer that counterfeiting one of those is a Federal crime that will bring the wrath of the Postal inspectors on your head. Did that once, never heard back from the guy.
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A check??? What an archaic method of payment! Does anyone actually accept checks as payment anymore?
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Play some games with the scammer.
Tell the buyer that you will only sell them the bike if they pay for and organize the delivery of it.
If they agree to that get them send you the 'check' addressed as 'General Delivery' so the scammer doesn't know your postal address.
Get a bike box from a bike shop, put 15kg of rubbish in it, seal it up well and organize for it to be picked up from somewhere that isn't your address.
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It is a well known SCAM......
Pass on the guy.
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It happens all the time.

Depending on the price of the item I'm selling, I always put "cash only" or "local checks only with local ID" in my CL ads.
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Run, don't walk, from this "deal"!
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Cash for goods is the only way to Craigslist. I don't even reply to those type emails anymore.
Once you reply they have your real E-mail.
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Play some games with the scammer.
Tell the buyer that you will only sell them the bike if they pay for and organize the delivery of it.
If they agree to that get them send you the 'check' addressed as 'General Delivery' so the scammer doesn't know your postal address.
Get a bike box from a bike shop, put 15kg of rubbish in it, seal it up well and organize for it to be picked up from somewhere that isn't your address.
Does that make the seller guilty of fraud? I mean, come on... you don't *know* it's a scam. You can suspect it but it doesn't give you the right to defraud someone.
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What everyone else said, cash is king. Tell this guys to go pound sand, someone else will buy the bike.
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Old 10-22-12, 07:53 PM   #13
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Thanks everyone! I did scare him off by asking some personal questions and telling him his grammar errors matched those I found in similar replies on a blog/discussion list about Craigslist scams. I live down the street from my bank and branch manager wanted to see what kind of check "Garry" would send me!
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I had a similar experience selling my old van 2 or 3 years ago but I found about the scam early in the process. I called the RCMP (federal police in canada) and an officer asked me if I'd like to transfer him all the email the crook send me and he also gave me advices on how to deal with the guy without him noticing I was aware of the scam and helping the police. I don't know if it helped them in any ways but I did what I could. The police officer told me then that they were frauding from Côte d'Ivoire which is in north africa.
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