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masterofsilence 10-27-12 02:16 PM

Lots of fake parts, any good?
 
I've been looking on some of these chinese websites (aliexpress etc.) and while browsing I've found a lot of fake parts. My question is, would you trust them?

Fulcrum Racing Speed XLR

This looks, weighs, and is made from the same material as the original $3000 wheelset, but it's only $700. I currently don't have a road bike, but I'm planning on getting a Specialized Allez Sport. Question is, are things like this worth it? I'm willing to bet that it performs exactly the same, except failure rates may be a bit higher, and there definitely isn't any customer service past 30 days. However, things like that may be worth saving $2300 over.... Also everyone would think I'm rich and spend a ton of money on bike parts when I really don't.

Fenway 10-27-12 03:09 PM

If seems too good to be true, and the only point of contact is overseas, guess what? IT IS!

While many products are made in the same factories with a different label, one has no way of knowing that outside of having an industry connection or having a lot of money to blow buying and inspecting imported good. As a one time consumer it isn't worth the risk.

masterofsilence 10-27-12 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Fenway (Post 14886241)
If seems too good to be true, and the only point of contact is overseas, guess what? IT IS!

While many products are made in the same factories with a different label, one has no way of knowing that outside of having an industry connection or having a lot of money to blow buying and inspecting imported good. As a one time consumer it isn't worth the risk.

This is true, but I argue that it is also true that bicycle parts manufacturers overcharge for many things. I guarantee you that it doesn't take Fulcrum even $2000 to make this wheelset. Which if it even did they would still be profiting $1000.

Drew Eckhardt 10-27-12 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by masterofsilence (Post 14886132)
I've been looking on some of these chinese websites (aliexpress etc.) and while browsing I've found a lot of fake parts. My question is, would you trust them?

Fulcrum Racing Speed XLR

This looks, weighs, and is made from the same material as the original $3000 wheelset, but it's only $700. I currently don't have a road bike, but I'm planning on getting a Specialized Allez Sport. Question is, are things like this worth it?

No. Buying knock-offs doesn't give you guarantees about the sort of materials and layup are going into the wheels even if they're coming out of the same molds.

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I'm willing to bet that it performs exactly the same, except failure rates may be a bit higher, and there definitely isn't any customer service past 30 days. However, things like that may be worth saving $2300 over....
Yes.

The obvious solution is to get yourself a set of open mold wheels from a reputable US based company like November Bicycles.

bgraham111 10-27-12 08:23 PM

Well, I can't say for sure about bike parts...

But I've been to China. I see how things get built in their plants. Some are very good. But some are almost criminal in what they do and sell. Be careful. I'd hate to think of a wheel shattering at 25 mph.

masterofsilence 10-27-12 11:48 PM

This particular one is from taiwan. But if i was ever to pick one of these fake wheelsets, I probably would pick the dura ace c50.

Also, try wheel shattering at 45mph. That's the fastest I've been on my CrMo steel framed 28lb bridgestone with an araya cv-7 wheelset on a small hill (on flats I can reach 30mph with a little effort) but I know I'll probably be able to get up to 60mph on a 19lb aluminum framed road bike with aero parts and a big hill.

LarDasse74 10-28-12 11:29 AM

It is quite probable that those are factory seconds and are actually made to the same standards and specs as the ones you buy for $2300, but these ones fails some QC checks at some point, which may or may not affect your enjoyment of the product. Or they may be a knockoff from a company that uses sub-standard carbon weave and has no interest or ability to do a proper lay-up. THere is no way to know until you get them.

erig007 10-28-12 12:06 PM

Just to show you what I read first in the thread title:

Lots of fa.. ..arts, any good?

Don in Austin 10-28-12 05:21 PM

I have bought 4 CF frames, plus handlebars and forks generic from China. One road, one cyclocross, one 26" MTB, one 29er. Two frames were on EBay, two from Alibaba. I have had absolutely NO problems with frames, forks or handlebars whatsoever. From all research and talking to others who have done the same, such frames are absolutely fine. A couple of the seatposts were the only disappointment and did not hold seat adjustment very well.

Don in Austin


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