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Old 10-27-12, 02:16 PM   #1
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Lots of fake parts, any good?

I've been looking on some of these chinese websites (aliexpress etc.) and while browsing I've found a lot of fake parts. My question is, would you trust them?

Fulcrum Racing Speed XLR

This looks, weighs, and is made from the same material as the original $3000 wheelset, but it's only $700. I currently don't have a road bike, but I'm planning on getting a Specialized Allez Sport. Question is, are things like this worth it? I'm willing to bet that it performs exactly the same, except failure rates may be a bit higher, and there definitely isn't any customer service past 30 days. However, things like that may be worth saving $2300 over.... Also everyone would think I'm rich and spend a ton of money on bike parts when I really don't.
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Old 10-27-12, 03:09 PM   #2
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If seems too good to be true, and the only point of contact is overseas, guess what? IT IS!

While many products are made in the same factories with a different label, one has no way of knowing that outside of having an industry connection or having a lot of money to blow buying and inspecting imported good. As a one time consumer it isn't worth the risk.
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If seems too good to be true, and the only point of contact is overseas, guess what? IT IS!

While many products are made in the same factories with a different label, one has no way of knowing that outside of having an industry connection or having a lot of money to blow buying and inspecting imported good. As a one time consumer it isn't worth the risk.
This is true, but I argue that it is also true that bicycle parts manufacturers overcharge for many things. I guarantee you that it doesn't take Fulcrum even $2000 to make this wheelset. Which if it even did they would still be profiting $1000.
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I've been looking on some of these chinese websites (aliexpress etc.) and while browsing I've found a lot of fake parts. My question is, would you trust them?

Fulcrum Racing Speed XLR

This looks, weighs, and is made from the same material as the original $3000 wheelset, but it's only $700. I currently don't have a road bike, but I'm planning on getting a Specialized Allez Sport. Question is, are things like this worth it?
No. Buying knock-offs doesn't give you guarantees about the sort of materials and layup are going into the wheels even if they're coming out of the same molds.

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I'm willing to bet that it performs exactly the same, except failure rates may be a bit higher, and there definitely isn't any customer service past 30 days. However, things like that may be worth saving $2300 over....
Yes.

The obvious solution is to get yourself a set of open mold wheels from a reputable US based company like November Bicycles.
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Well, I can't say for sure about bike parts...

But I've been to China. I see how things get built in their plants. Some are very good. But some are almost criminal in what they do and sell. Be careful. I'd hate to think of a wheel shattering at 25 mph.
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This particular one is from taiwan. But if i was ever to pick one of these fake wheelsets, I probably would pick the dura ace c50.

Also, try wheel shattering at 45mph. That's the fastest I've been on my CrMo steel framed 28lb bridgestone with an araya cv-7 wheelset on a small hill (on flats I can reach 30mph with a little effort) but I know I'll probably be able to get up to 60mph on a 19lb aluminum framed road bike with aero parts and a big hill.

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It is quite probable that those are factory seconds and are actually made to the same standards and specs as the ones you buy for $2300, but these ones fails some QC checks at some point, which may or may not affect your enjoyment of the product. Or they may be a knockoff from a company that uses sub-standard carbon weave and has no interest or ability to do a proper lay-up. THere is no way to know until you get them.
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Just to show you what I read first in the thread title:

Lots of fa.. ..arts, any good?
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I have bought 4 CF frames, plus handlebars and forks generic from China. One road, one cyclocross, one 26" MTB, one 29er. Two frames were on EBay, two from Alibaba. I have had absolutely NO problems with frames, forks or handlebars whatsoever. From all research and talking to others who have done the same, such frames are absolutely fine. A couple of the seatposts were the only disappointment and did not hold seat adjustment very well.

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