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Old 03-02-13, 04:10 AM   #1
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Does your State/Country/Providence still (or did it ever) offer bicycle registration?

As in Police station registration. Ever since I got back into cycling after a decades long break, I noticed that my local Police station here in Mays Landing NJ no longer allows people to register their bike in case of theft. I couldn't help notice that this forum plays host to cyclist all over the world. So I was curious if all of America has "86" the act of documenting your bike sale & ownership?
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Old 03-02-13, 04:20 AM   #2
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If you buy the bike new, you can register with what ever brand's website. Barring that, a sales receipt acts as proof of purchase in case you have to file a report.
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If you buy the bike new, you can register with what ever brand's website. Barring that, a sales receipt acts as proof of purchase in case you have to file a report.
A manufacture's website can do nothing to recover a stolen bike. Example: when my beloved GT was stolen it was registared with Pleasentville Police station. During their rutine shake down of local drug dealers & thugs, they can check the serial numbers of the bikes they are rideing (most pushers don't spend a lot of money on bikes & the high end job always stick out like a sore thumb)

But still, its not like the Cops have stolen bike (high end or not) on their minds. Sometimes you just need a good cause to stop & detain a suspect. & a reported stolen bike can be just the thing a cop needs to CYOA in the legal dept. So No1mad, I take it that's a no from you & your neck of the woods?

FYI: I got my GT back! :-)

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Way back in the 1970s, Saskatchewan had a bicycle registration program ... our bicycles even had little licence plates. But that went out years ago ... probably close to 3 decades ago.
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No registration with LEO or any other civil authority in my neck of the woods is required, nor do I delude myself with the chances of recovering a stolen bike even if it was registered. Then again, I don't have a huge financial or emotional stake in my bike- others may have different views than mine, however.
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I still need to get around to registering my cycles - my municipality has mandatory registration, although I've never heard of it being enforced, and wouldn't be surprised if they were unable to register a bike (it involves bolting a license plate to the rear fender, or the seat stays above the tire if there is no fender).
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The town I used to live in did, but not longer does. No one knows what happened to the data base. I keep track of all my serial numbers of everything I own that has them in a spread sheet, also pictures of the stuff.

There are some places that still mandate cycle registration as a means of harassment against cyclists, IMHO. FWIW I registered everyone of my bicycles back when it was available, and have never had one of the stolen ones recovered. I found two of my stolen ones in pawn shops and was able to ID them by the serial numbers, and yes they had the license sticker on them.

I have seen registration used on college campuses which makes some sense for tracking down or ticketing someone who can't follow parking rules. I have seen this done on a couple of campuses where someone locked a bike to a railing blocking a handicapped access. The bike was removed and a citation issued to the student who's name was registered to the sticker.

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A manufacture's website can do nothing to recover a stolen bike. Example: when my beloved GT was stolen it was registared with Pleasentville Police station. During their rutine shake down of local drug dealers & thugs, they can check the serial numbers of the bikes they are rideing (most pushers don't spend a lot of money on bikes & the high end job always stick out like a sore thumb)

But still, its not like the Cops have stolen bike (high end or not) on their minds. Sometimes you just need a good cause to stop & detain a suspect. & a reported stolen bike can be just the thing a cop needs to CYOA in the legal dept. So No1mad, I take it that's a no from you & your neck of the woods?
Sounds like you are looking for a backdoor "justification" for police profiling and "shaking down" and stopping the wrong type of cyclists.
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Sounds like you are looking for a backdoor "justification" for police profiling and "shaking down" and stopping the wrong type of cyclists.
My locality allowes for a registration but I am not sure it does anything. The local police or Sherriff do not seem to place bicycle theft very high on their list. But as far as pulling over anyone, wrong or right type of cyclist, they seem to make up a justification as they go along. But what does seem strange to me is there is more of a movement to register and protect our pets than our property like a bicycle. I have to register my dog and I can even get a microchip so the pet can be identified if found. My vet will scan any animal that comes in just to see if the owner is indeed the owner. Cats and exotic birds can get the same microchip service.

I will admit I am at a quandry on licensing and registering bicycles maybe because of the concern you mentioned in your post. But I also would like to think there was a real effort to recover my stolen bike so that when you come to forums like these the most common advice isn't, "buy a POS bike so if it gets ripped off you haven't lost much." Or "repaint your bike to look like a POS so the bike next to yours get ripped off and yours get passed over."

As a result I have a good bike that I only ride where I can see it if I am off of it. I have a general bike that I can ride to the coffee shop on the weekend while I visit with friends and read the paper. And I have a general utility bike that I will only ride to stores I feel are somewhat secure to get groceries or whatever I might need that I can haul by bike or bike and trailer. That means I end up driving to places I could easily ride to because I am not sure I wouldn't have to walk home. But I wondered off topic a bit didn't I?
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But what does seem strange to me is there is more of a movement to register and protect our pets than our property like a bicycle. I have to register my dog and I can even get a microchip so the pet can be identified if found. My vet will scan any animal that comes in just to see if the owner is indeed the owner. Cats and exotic birds can get the same microchip service.
I don't find it strange. Though a reading of some BF posts might indicate otherwise, I suspect a far higher proportion of the population have a deeper emotional attachment to their pets, than almost any material possession, except perhaps for their home.
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I don't find it strange. Though a reading of some BF posts might indicate otherwise, I suspect a far higher proportion of the population have a deeper emotional attachment to their pets, than almost any material possession, except perhaps for their home.
Maybe true. However I was thinking along the lines of legal interest rather than emotional. I might be guilty of the later myself. Still in many cases bike theft might be grand theft but It "seems" as if some police departments see a stolen TV or power tools as a higher priority.
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Still in many cases bike theft might be grand theft but It "seems" as if some police departments see a stolen TV or power tools as a higher priority.
Doubt it as far as $value. I can't imagine that the average value of bikes in the U.S. is over $200. Don't forget most bikes are bought at the big box stores for less than that price and probably can't be resold for 1/2 the price a week later. I suspect most of the more expensive bikes are kept under tighter control and better locking systems than Junior's 10 or 18 speed MTB special sitting unlocked in the driveway or on the sidewalk when Mom calls.
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This goes back to 1985 when I bought my Raleigh Olympian new, hopefully it's changed since then.

I purchased a bike registration for my new Raleigh Olympian, as I recall it was technically required, but later I found out that there was no sharing of information among police departments. If my bike were stolen and recovered in my city, it might do some good, but if it were recovered across the street in a different city it was worthless. Once I learned that I said never again.
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but later I found out that there was no sharing of information among police departments. If my bike were stolen and recovered in my city, it might do some good, but if it were recovered across the street in a different city it was worthless. Once I learned that I said never again.
I learned that about 60 years ago, at about the same time as I learned the real truth about the Tooth Fairy.
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On my police scanner I hear the police running serial numbers on bikes all the time.
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Sounds like you are looking for a backdoor "justification" for police profiling and "shaking down" and stopping the wrong type of cyclists.
Yes, that's it.....you've seen right through me LOL. No dude, your reading way to deep into it. I just don't want to see my $1,200.00 bike grow wings. I can't speak for you, but I tend to get "attatched" to my bikes. When one gets stolen, its more the feeling of.......IDK, its just sucks to get ur stuff ripped off.
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Does state college campus registration count?
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Doubt it as far as $value. I can't imagine that the average value of bikes in the U.S. is over $200. Don't forget most bikes are bought at the big box stores for less than that price and probably can't be resold for 1/2 the price a week later. I suspect most of the more expensive bikes are kept under tighter control and better locking systems than Junior's 10 or 18 speed MTB special sitting unlocked in the driveway or on the sidewalk when Mom calls.
Once again you might have a point. But I have found very little differnce in attitude when a report goes to the police about a missing Trek 6.5 with Mavic R-Sys SLs wheels, Ti Speed plays and a SMP Cf race saddle. The police in my area will hardly come take a report. But for a missing TV they will come take a report. You can get a pretty good sized flat screen for a lot less that the Trek. Just my experience in my area. I did see a program about the police running a bait car type sting with high end bikes in LA. But I wondered if that was just for TV because it was on the Bait car program.
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Yes, that's it.....you've seen right through me LOL. No dude, your reading way to deep into it. I just don't want to see my $1,200.00 bike grow wings. I can't speak for you, but I tend to get "attatched" to my bikes. When one gets stolen, its more the feeling of.......IDK, its just sucks to get ur stuff ripped off.
Similarly, though, you don't want every black guy riding a $1200 bike get pulled over for Riding While Black, and you know cops are going to do that in many areas.
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Once again you might have a point. But I have found very little differnce in attitude when a report goes to the police about a missing Trek 6.5 with Mavic R-Sys SLs wheels, Ti Speed plays and a SMP Cf race saddle. The police in my area will hardly come take a report. But for a missing TV they will come take a report.
The big difference might be because stealing a TV usually involves a burglary of a home or establishment and an invasion of one's home, even if uninhabited at the time, is far more disturbing to most people.
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Yes, that's it.....you've seen right through me LOL. No dude, your reading way to deep into it.
No I'm not. You are the one who posted the logic for a justification for routine stopping of anyone who looks "wrong" for riding high-end bikes, "During their rutine shake down of local drug dealers & thugs, they can check the serial numbers of the bikes they are rideing (most pushers don't spend a lot of money on bikes & the high end job always stick out like a sore thumb).
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When I was a kid bikes could be registered(don't remember if it was mandatory). It was cool because you you got a mini license plate, just like a car, it had metal tabs that attached it to your seat stays.
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A city requirement that all bicycles be registered with the traffic section of the police department. Cost is one dollar. You get a bicycle license sticker that goes on the seat post tube. The license paper that you get in return lists the frame number and a description of the bike. Said to be useful in identifying stolen bicycles that are recovered.

From what I have seen I am probably the only one in the city who has bother to get the stickers for our 4 bicycles. If stolen and you see it on the street it helps you to recover the bike from whoever happens to be riding it at the time. Of course most stolen bikes are quickly repainted. But having the frame number in the traffic dept. computer helps the police determine that it is in fact your bike.
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Similarly, though, you don't want every black guy riding a $1200 bike get pulled over for Riding While Black, and you know cops are going to do that in many areas.
Who said anything about black people?..........got'cha. I guess its not just cops who profile lol.
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No I'm not. You are the one who posted the logic for a justification for routine stopping of anyone who looks "wrong" for riding high-end bikes, "During their rutine shake down of local drug dealers & thugs, they can check the serial numbers of the bikes they are rideing (most pushers don't spend a lot of money on bikes & the high end job always stick out like a sore thumb).
No, that's not what I said. That's what YOU said. If you re-read my post (minus the conspiracy complex), you'll see that what I said or implied was that cops are gonna stop these thugs & known pushers with or with out a bike. Having a registry & an active report of a stolen bike only adds to their ability to stop & detain.

In other words......its the same concept as a cop running a plate or back ground check during or after a traffic stop. But I get it......the "evil profile plot" is more sexy LMAO.
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