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Old 04-28-13, 01:30 AM   #1
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New Cyclist, need suggestion on Road bike

Hello everyone,

I am new to the whole bike and cyclist scene and since I am going to be taking some summer courses at my campus I thought it would be awesome to bike to campus instead of driving!

Two of my friends are currently cyclists with a fixie and a road bike [FUJI]. As a beginner, what is a good brand and model bike to aim for?

Friend number 1 has a frame size of 52, same height as me; however, the guy at the store suggest I get a 50 instead. Any thoughts? i am 5'6. My other friend is 5'4 and has a 52, so I am not sure which to go for since they both are different in height but same frame size.

price range if possible: 500 to 700 USD

I really want to get a FUJI Road bike, but not sure what to get.

Any help will do.
Thank you in advance!
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A mechanic once told me fuji's used to rock, but today's fuji's are kind of crappy. You can get a pretty good bike for 500-700. as for sizing, go with what the mechanic tells you.

I don't think you can get a very good road bike at a local bike store in that price range. So the next best thing is online (eg bikesdirect or nashbar). I bought my good bike from bikesdirect while I was still in college. For a beginner bike, I would recommend a bike with tiagra parts on bikesdirect. It'll come with aluminum frame, carbon fork, average wheels, standard drive train, etc. You'll be very happy with it..

keep in mind though that you'll also need a helmet, front light, tail light, water bottle cages, pump, lube, tools for maintenance... It adds up... But still cheaper than gas
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...as for sizing, go with what the mechanic tells you.
No, test the bikes out and go for what you find most comfortable.
Especially with road bikes, shops may too quickly put you on a small frame with low handlebars optimized for weekend rides and races, but maybe not comfortable for commuting/daily use.
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A mechanic once told me fuji's used to rock, but today's fuji's are kind of crappy. You can get a pretty good bike for 500-700. as for sizing, go with what the mechanic tells you.

I don't think you can get a very good road bike at a local bike store in that price range. So the next best thing is online (eg bikesdirect or nashbar). I bought my good bike from bikesdirect while I was still in college. For a beginner bike, I would recommend a bike with tiagra parts on bikesdirect. It'll come with aluminum frame, carbon fork, average wheels, standard drive train, etc. You'll be very happy with it..

keep in mind though that you'll also need a helmet, front light, tail light, water bottle cages, pump, lube, tools for maintenance... It adds up... But still cheaper than gas

DANG! I would never consider I needed that much for a bike haha, and yes especially living in california where gas prices are high as a mother!!
thank you for the input, I have been scooping bikesdirect for awhile now.
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No, test the bikes out and go for what you find most comfortable.
Especially with road bikes, shops may too quickly put you on a small frame with low handlebars optimized for weekend rides and races, but maybe not comfortable for commuting/daily use.
I've been testing my friends bike, and to be honest I am not sure of what to feel since they are both the same size... and stores usually just place me onto a frame.
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New Cyclist, need suggestion on Road bike

Are you only looking at road bikes? You may want to put a rack or fenders on, so maybe a cyclocross or even touring bike would give you more choices?

Have you a REI you can get to and check the bikes out/test ride?
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! 1st pick your favorite local bike shop, then pick out the bike, they will help you ..

before and, AFTER the Sale..

I could help more but I cant see you to consult on bike fit.. that is where in person helps..


frame size, the number, varies with top tube slope though 2 bikes will be functionally the same size,
just the top tube is more level on one than another.. so seat tube length [aka 'size'] is different.

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Check these at Performance:
www.performancebike.com/bikes/Product_10052_10551_1124284_-1_400317__400317

www.performancebike.com/bikes/Product_10052_10551_1116806_-1_400317__400317
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I've been testing my friends bike, and to be honest I am not sure of what to feel since they are both the same size... and stores usually just place me onto a frame.
bike fit can be confusing
but for most there is a range of sizes that will be acceptable
most people could probably have one optimum size in any given bike
and one size bigger and one size smaller are also acceptable but not optimal
but adjustments need to be made to make it optimal

you should also know that there is no standardized measuring method for bikes
so company a might make a bike they call a 52cm
and the sizes of bikes with a similar fit by company b and company c
are called 50 cm and small
respectively
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! 1st pick your favorite local bike shop, then pick out the bike, they will help you .
That's what I think too.

First, shop for a bike shop. Who do you want to deal with for service and accessories? If you have a warranty issue, who do you want working for you?

When you find the bike shop one, you'll know it. Buy a brand that they carry, get the right size, and you'll never go wrong.
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A 50cm sounds too small for you..... Make sure that shop isn't just trying to unload what they have on hand or can't sell.....

In the $500-$700 range, you'll get WAY more bang for your buck online at a place like Bikesdirect....or get a used bike on Craigslist. Better to get a good-quality used bike (and 5-700 will buy you a really nice used bike) than the bottom-of-the-heap new bike.

Being your first bike, and in the lower price echelon, it's going to be a learning experience- to learn what kind of riding you like; what characterisitics you like in a bike; what kind of fit you prefer; how to maintain and fix a bike; etc. no matter what you do or where you buy from.

You can get a very nice used bike for $350...... Save the rest of the money for needed accessories...and then when you're ready to move up to a better bike, you can likely sell the used bike for what you paid for it. Buy a $600 bike at an LBS, you'll be lucky to sell it a year later for $200.
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It doesn't have to be a road bike.
If your price range is $500, I'd suggest looking at a Trek 7.2FX or a Giant Escape.
Dynamite commuters, and for bounding around on rides on the weekend.
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A mechanic once told me fuji's used to rock, but today's fuji's are kind of crappy. You can get a pretty good bike for 500-700. as for sizing, go with what the mechanic tells you.

I don't think you can get a very good road bike at a local bike store in that price range. So the next best thing is online (eg bikesdirect or nashbar). I bought my good bike from bikesdirect while I was still in college. For a beginner bike, I would recommend a bike with tiagra parts on bikesdirect. It'll come with aluminum frame, carbon fork, average wheels, standard drive train, etc. You'll be very happy with it..

keep in mind though that you'll also need a helmet, front light, tail light, water bottle cages, pump, lube, tools for maintenance... It adds up... But still cheaper than gas
they are not crappy
just there is nothing that is different from every other mass manufactured bike to come out of asia

i dont think the modern company fuji has any connection to the japanese company
other than having purchased the right to use the name

the old japanese ones were stellar
among the best bikes made at the time
imho
even most of the cheap ones were solid well built bikes
but if i had to guess i would say the average modern mass manuafctured bike is as good as an old fuji
modern bike manufacturing is able to build incredible bikes that could not even have been imagined
back when mr fuji started his bike company
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also
i looked at the fuji web page and
of course this all depends on what is available to buy in your area
the sportif 1.5 and sportif 1.7 are in your price range and look like great bikes from where i am sitting
but if it were me i would hold out for the 1.3 which has 9 speed and better shifters than the first two

also
none of this matters if you are not comfortable riding the bike
that is the most important factor
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they are not crappy
just there is nothing that is different from every other mass manufactured bike to come out of asia

i dont think the modern company fuji has any connection to the japanese company
other than having purchased the right to use the name

the old japanese ones were stellar
among the best bikes made at the time
imho
even most of the cheap ones were solid well built bikes
but if i had to guess i would say the average modern mass manuafctured bike is as good as an old fuji
modern bike manufacturing is able to build incredible bikes that could not even have been imagined
back when mr fuji started his bike company
Fuji is now owned by Advanced Sports International of Philadelphia, which is also the parent corporation of Kestrel.

Agreed, they're not crappy. They're good bikes.
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This http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/..._al_xi_sc2.htm is just a rebadged Fuji. (One of these was my first road bike- and served me well....can't beat it for the price)
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No, test the bikes out and go for what you find most comfortable.
Especially with road bikes, shops may too quickly put you on a small frame with low handlebars optimized for weekend rides and races, but maybe not comfortable for commuting/daily use.
Agree with this. Your riding style can affect the frame size you want. By these people, http://www.competitivecyclist.com/ht...ad_riding.html there are three styles of fit. Most shops by default seem to use the competitive fit. That is what the LBS I bought my bike from fit me with and I was never able to get comfortable on the bike. A year and a half late I replaced the bike with one of the same model a full size larger and it rides so much more comfortably.
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to me, bike fit is more important than sizing. Sizing can be versatile. I mean look at semicompact frames. They come in small, medium, large etc. with far fewer options than the cm measurement. It's not like there's a handful of people whose optimal sizing is somewhere in between a large semicompact and an XL. I, for instance, can ride anything from 56 or 58, and not really notice any difference...
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to me, bike fit is more important than sizing. Sizing can be versatile. I mean look at semicompact frames. They come in small, medium, large etc. with far fewer options than the cm measurement. It's not like there's a handful of people whose optimal sizing is somewhere in between a large semicompact and an XL. I, for instance, can ride anything from 56 or 58, and not really notice any difference...
^^^Eggsactly! I think cyclists today are being sold a bill of goods. Obsessing over every millimeter, when in reality, 4cm's are less than two inches- which, considering the range of motion and flexibility of the normal human body...is nothing; and can be easily compensated for, if need be.

I don't seem to remember even amateur racers even being so concerned with sizing in the 70's...much less the average recreational cyclist- and yet people still rode even centuries...and continued to live!

I'm easily comfortable on a 53-57cm...and I'd bet I could stretch that even more.

It's marketing. Getting cyclists to obsess over every little thing. I pray that I never get like that; it must drain all the fun out of cycling. I take pleasure in knowing that I can ride a myriad of bikes comfortably at 51- while I see guys in their 20's *****ing and whining over 2mm's...and paying some skinny 'mo $200 to play around with their seat post height.

Funny thing is, we're all admonished to [read the next few words in a solemn, hallowed tone] "purchase from the LBS to insure a proper fit"....and yet I've seen so many people being sold ridiculously-sized bikes, just because the LBS wanted to move stock or sell what was on hand...or pass some oddity off on someone who doesn't know any better....

Like this abomination: A custom-built assembl;ed on a frame that shop sold a poor woman for $2600, which was about 10cm's too small for her:

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Definitely get a bike with tiagra as stated above. It shifts really nice (better than 105) because of the external shift cable routing. Also, in your price range, I would just get a Motobecane track and upgrade it from there. A used road bike on Craigslist is good too, just look up reviews on it so you know what you're buying. I can tell you this, my motobecane track is straight up gangsta.
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Take a look online for some Fuji deals

New Fuji SL 3.0 Full Carbon Road Bike with Shimano 4500 $999
http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/fuji/fuji_sl3.htm
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