Advertise on Bikeforums.net



User Tag List

Results 1 to 7 of 7
  1. #1
    Junior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Posts
    7
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Biria Citi vs 2013 Manhattan Green 5 Speed

    Hey folks. I'd like some feedback comparing two bikes I'm considering. Disclaimer: I can't ride either one of these at the LBS right now and they're both at the upper limit of my budget. None of my LBS's have anything similar I can afford. I'm 5' tall and I'm by no means a "serious" cyclist but I don't want to buy something I won't get at least 5 years out of if not more. I live on a valley floor in Mt with mostly flat terrain but some moderate hills. I want an English vintage style city bike (my side business is selling vintage clothing and I like to look the part that has a step-through frame and at least three gears. I want to be able to transport things like groceries, etc. but not haul major cargo. Also, I had my meniscus removed in my right knee in December of this year so this bike is part of my rehab plan.

    I'm holding my breath waiting for my lbs call me back and tell me if they can get me one of these later on in the spring: http://www.manhattancruisers.com/13_green_5_m_green.htm. But right now they're not available and this LBS doesn't have the greatest customer service anyway. The only reason this peaked my interest is because it's aluminum and comes in a 14" frame since I'm only 5' tall (28.5 inseam). But I'm leaning towards ordering one of these: http://www.commuterbikestore.com/biria-citi-ez6-ladiesbike.html because they're cheaper and already come with extras, but the smallest size frame is 17" and I can't test drive it. Any thoughts? I looked into the bikedirect bikes but didn't see anything aesthetics-wise that I liked more that the Biria citibike, but maybe I'm missing something there. Any input would be appreciated. Thanks friends!
    Last edited by switchbacks; 04-30-13 at 11:09 AM. Reason: spelling

  2. #2
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2012
    Posts
    107
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    First of all, 3 speeds, not so great on hills, although maybe a bit better than 1 speed. If you have to go 3 speeds with hills, I would have the cog swapped out so 3rd gear is your cruising gear instead of 2nd.

    BD has a loop frame on the front page, http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/.../elle_city.htm although I can't vouch for the quality.

    Also in terms of sizing, you should get your true inseam measurement, measuring from your pelvic bone to the ground while wearing shoes. The rule of thumb for leg extension sizing is that you put your heel on the crank, and cranks are about 170mm long, and add 100mm for a cruiser seat. So for a 44cm frame, 44+17+10 = 71cm or 28in. The pedal will lower some of that because it has some thickness, and most seats aren't actually 4 inches thick. However, 44cm is the maximum size I would risk if your legs are actually 28.5" long to the ground.
    Last edited by F red; 05-02-13 at 01:42 PM.

  3. #3
    Senior Member wahoonc's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    On the road-USA
    My Bikes
    Giant Excursion, Raleigh Sports, Raleigh R.S.W. Compact, Motobecane? and about 20 more! OMG
    Posts
    16,326
    Mentioned
    4 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    My wife is about your size.. she can ride SOME 17" frames. Her Raleigh Colts are 17" frames. We sourced a Raleigh Space Rider for a young lady that was even shorter. What is your budget? A folding bike might be an option, you don't say where you are located. If you have someone that could help with the details a Raleigh Twenty would be a possibility. Biria is a respected brand and has been around a while, but they are rare in the US.

    Of the two bikes you have linked to the Biria uses a derrailleur gear system and is seven speeds the Manhattan is a 5 speed and is IGH (internal gear hub). From your list of wants that would be a better choice overall. You might want to look at the Giant Via 1 which comes in an XS (14") frame size. Or possibly a Torker T300 which also comes in the XS. Torker bikes can be ordered by any shop that has an account with SBS (Seattle Bicycle Supply). I own a couple of Redline bikes that are sister bikes to the Torker and they are a good value for the money.

    The smallest of the Bike Direct bikes appears to be 17" which I think you are going to find to be a bit on the large side.

    Aaron
    Last edited by wahoonc; 05-02-13 at 04:12 PM.
    Webshots is bailing out, if you find any of my posts with corrupt picture files and want to see them corrected please let me know. :(

    ISO: A late 1980's Giant Iguana MTB frameset (or complete bike) 23" Red with yellow graphics.

    "Cycling should be a way of life, not a hobby.
    RIDE, YOU FOOL, RIDE!"
    _Nicodemus

    "Steel: nearly a thousand years of metallurgical development
    Aluminum: barely a hundred
    Which one would you rather have under your butt at 30mph?"
    _krazygluon

  4. #4
    PatronSaintOfDiscBrakes dynaryder's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    dropped and lost in Washington DC
    Posts
    6,237
    Mentioned
    12 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Public Bikes has sizes for 4'8" folks,in the style you're looking for. They also allow returns if the bike doesn't fit you right.

    http://publicbikes.com/

    C'dale BBU('05 and '09)/Super Six/Hooligan8and 3,Kona Dew Deluxe,Novara Buzz/Safari,Surly Big Dummy,Marin Pt Reyes,Giant Defy 1,Schwinn DBX SuperSport/Qualifier,Dahon Speed Pro TT,Brompton S6L

  5. #5
    Pedaled too far. Artkansas's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    La Petite Roche
    Posts
    12,345
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I agree with Fred, that a 3 speed would probably be insufficient. It is great if you have no hills and need only into the wind, across the wind and with the wind gears. So the extra gears are good.

    What brands are available to you locally?
    "He who serves all, best serves himself" Jack London

    Quote Originally Posted by Bjforrestal View Post
    I don't care if you are on a unicycle, as long as you're not using a motor to get places you get props from me. We're here to support each other. Share ideas, and motivate one another to actually keep doing it.

  6. #6
    Pedaled too far. Artkansas's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    La Petite Roche
    Posts
    12,345
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Have you made any progress in your shopping? Let us know how it's going.
    "He who serves all, best serves himself" Jack London

    Quote Originally Posted by Bjforrestal View Post
    I don't care if you are on a unicycle, as long as you're not using a motor to get places you get props from me. We're here to support each other. Share ideas, and motivate one another to actually keep doing it.

  7. #7
    coprolite fietsbob's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    NW,Oregon Coast
    My Bikes
    7
    Posts
    3,319
    Mentioned
    48 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Sturmey's 5 speed adds another stage, lower and higher ratio , To the 3 speed..

    you can always change hubs. rebuild wheels, on a bike that otherwise was fine as a 3 speed.



    NuVinci varies the ratio continuously , high is 360% of low ..

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •