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Old 05-14-13, 07:58 PM   #1
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Documentary on bicycle theft.

Hi everybody,

While on YouTube this morning I came across a documentary about bicycle theft in London.

I found it interesting, especially the part about how little security most bike locks actually offer against a "professional" bike thief.

Thought that people here might like to see it.

The title of the video is Gone in 60 seconds - the bike crime wave.

Part 1

Part 2
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Old 05-15-13, 08:13 AM   #2
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I will have to watch this tonight! Thanks!
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very informative. i do think the lock testers could have locked the bikes a little better; I've never seen a bike rail so low to the ground, in turn, the lock was locked to the bike low enough to the ground so that they could use the floor to their advantage using the bolt cutters, so they could put all their weight on the levers. If the lock was higher, I don't think they could've done that.
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Not new for me.
22467 known bicycle theft/taking of pedal cycle offenses in 2011 in London knowing that there were at most 115 000 cctv cameras there in 2011
http://www.met.police.uk/foi/pdfs/di...2010002531.pdf
http://fullfact.org/blog/full_facts_...necessary-2533
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Just mildly surprised that prosecution of bike theft isn't easier, given that most of London is under continual surveillance. Unlike most US cities, those bike thefts are most certainly caught on film.

Seriously bad karma to knowingly buy a stolen bike from a criminal.

I have, on occasion, bought used bikes on CL, but I wouldn't have if I thought the bikes were stolen.
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yeah, apparently bicycle thieves in London is a real force to be reckoned with. DailyMail run an article on them every few months.
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in my opinion

the secret is to ride a crap bike
so that theives are less likely to want it
and if they do want it
you wont miss it
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in my opinion

the secret is to ride a crap bike
so that theives are less likely to want it
and if they do want it
you wont miss it
Hey! I strenuously object!

I'd miss my crap bike!

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Hey! I strenuously object!

I'd miss my crap bike!
i know what you mean

in theory we wouldnt miss them

but after you put fenders and new tires and handlebar tape and a few thousand miles on a bike
it becomes a part of you

i fondly/bitterly remember each of my crap bikes that was stolen or otherwise lost
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When somebody who has stolen over 100 bikes is caught and only receives a 5 month suspended sentence it would seem they aren't really serious about doing anything about the problem.
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When somebody who has stolen over 100 bikes is caught and only receives a 5 month suspended sentence it would seem they aren't really serious about doing anything about the problem.
Yeah, but the other guy got 6 months for stealing only three bikes!
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These videos hypothesize that the increase in the number of people biking is the reason why bike theft is increasing. OK, that sounds logical. What many fail to realize, however, is that videos like this TEACH criminals how to become successful bike thieves.

IMO, below is a ranking for the top factors in why bike theft is on the rise:

1. Technology is improving in favor of bike thieves. Namely for tools such as portable angle grinders, etc.
2. The internet supplies a wealth of information on how to steal bikes. Youtube is the number 1 culprit. These videos do FAR MORE HARM than good IMO. They may encourage people to ditch their cable locks and purchase U-locks, but they are a breeding ground for creating bike thieves.
3. More people are biking.

I was going to share the videos on social media, but I've chosen not to. It would do far more harm than good.
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These videos hypothesize that the increase in the number of people biking is the reason why bike theft is increasing. OK, that sounds logical. What many fail to realize, however, is that videos like this TEACH criminals how to become successful bike thieves.

IMO, below is a ranking for the top factors in why bike theft is on the rise:

1. Technology is improving in favor of bike thieves. Namely for tools such as portable angle grinders, etc.
2. The internet supplies a wealth of information on how to steal bikes. Youtube is the number 1 culprit. These videos do FAR MORE HARM than good IMO. They may encourage people to ditch their cable locks and purchase U-locks, but they are a breeding ground for creating bike thieves.
3. More people are biking.

I was going to share the videos on social media, but I've chosen not to. It would do far more harm than good.
1. You forgot the alarms, tracking devices, cameras, tagging systems, new ways of storing bikes like in the Netherlands and in Japan, bikes registrations, stronger new materials etc
2. That's your opinion. For every thief who steal 100 bikes you need 100 people to know what to use and what not to use to protect their bike. Internet is good way of diffusion of knowledge for everybody. If those videos help some thieves who don't already know their business properly it is also a breeding ground for creating new security solutions and countermeasures. It's a matter of how you see the glass half full or half empty. Without factual data it is all opinion of who get the most of it anyway, bicycle thieves or honest cyclists(to differentiate since the thief who leave with a bike is therefore a cyclist)

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