Cycling and bicycle discussion forums. 
   Click here to join our community Log in to access your Control Panel  


Go Back   > >

General Cycling Discussion Have a cycling related question or comment that doesn't fit in one of the other specialty forums? Drop on in and post in here! When possible, please select the forum above that most fits your post!

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 05-15-13, 08:53 AM   #1
little_dawn
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Bikes:
Posts: 20
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Flying with a Bike in NA

Hi all,

I will be flying cross-country with my road bike. I would like to know if anyone who has done this has advice on:

1. How best to package it (box/wrapped/case - and where to get one/what type)
2. Costs associated with this (bag fees, damage liability)
3. If it is preferable to use UPS or Fedex instead of taking it as luggage (and typical price range)
4. Any other advice you can offer.

Thanks,

-ld

Note: The search function on the forum was not working for me. I apologize if this question has been asked/answered already.
little_dawn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-13, 03:16 PM   #2
flatlander_48
Cathedral City, CA
 
flatlander_48's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Cathedral City, CA
Bikes: 2016 RITCHEY BreakAway (full Chorus 11), 2005 Ritchey BreakAway (full Chorus 11, STOLEN), 2001 Gary Fisher Tassajara mountain bike (sold), 2004 Giant TRC 2 road bike (sold)
Posts: 1,483
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Although I was traveling overseas, this is precisely why I have a travel bike...
flatlander_48 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-13, 03:40 PM   #3
majwell
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Chicago
Bikes: 2006 Kona Jake, 2011 Trek Cronus CX
Posts: 50
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Southwest doesn't charge you extra assuming you have a case (or box) and it fits in their requirements:

http://www.southwest.com/html/custom...ggage-pol.html (Click on Sports Equipment)

I have never done it though I have thought about it before, that said free is better than $100 that United charges for example:

http://www.united.com/web/en-US/cont...ge/sports.aspx
majwell is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-13, 06:14 PM   #4
little_dawn
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Bikes:
Posts: 20
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Thanks for the advice
little_dawn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-13, 08:00 PM   #5
Machka 
In Real Life
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Bikes:
Posts: 46,695
Mentioned: 24 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 569 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by little_dawn View Post
Hi all,

I will be flying cross-country with my road bike. I would like to know if anyone who has done this has advice on:

1. How best to package it (box/wrapped/case - and where to get one/what type)
2. Costs associated with this (bag fees, damage liability)
3. If it is preferable to use UPS or Fedex instead of taking it as luggage (and typical price range)
4. Any other advice you can offer.

Thanks,

-ld

Note: The search function on the forum was not working for me. I apologize if this question has been asked/answered already.
You would find lots of answers about this in the Touring forum, however ...

1. You can get cardboard boxes (usually for free) from your local LBS, and they can also help you pack the bicycle if you're unsure what to do. If you've got a place to store the box at your destination, you might opt to rent a hard-shell case from the LBS, and again, they can help you with the packing.

2. Costs vary but in North America, you're going to pay. Look up the airlines you're thinking of travelling with and see what they charge, as well as the rules and regs surrounding bringing your bicycle.

There is no chance (unless something has changed with the rules and regs very recently) that your bicycle is going to fly free within NA. It simply will not fit in the 62 inch box size limit they all seem to have (unless you're bringing a folding bike, of course). Southwest or West Jet are probably your best bets, but even they charge something.

At this moment in time, Southwest charges $50 each way ...

http://www.southwest.com/html/custom...ab_list_tab_12


If you were flying overseas, you might be able to find an airline that will allow a bicycle to fly for free, but they are getting rarer.


(And this is from a decade of flying all over the world with my bicycle. )

Last edited by Machka; 05-20-13 at 08:08 PM.
Machka is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-13, 09:31 AM   #6
Looigi
Senior Member
 
Looigi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Bikes:
Posts: 8,951
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7 Post(s)
If it's a bike and exceeds the basic luggage size, it's $50 on SouthWest, Jet Blue, and Virgin (last I checked a couple of months ago). We use Aerus soft cases to fly with our CF bikes. ~35 lb with bike and all riding accouterments. Last 4 flights on Jet Blue they only charged me once. They saw the weight, input it and printed the tag, and when they went to put it on they asked, what is this? I said a bike. They were too hurried/lazy to go back and charge me for it. Another bonus is it often comes out on the normal carousel rather than at the end in a separate oversize area.

Here's an older review of the Aerus case. It now comes with frame pads so you don't need to use pipe insulation. http://www.dcrainmaker.com/2011/02/h...h-my-bike.html
Looigi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-13, 11:29 AM   #7
StephenH
Uber Goober
 
StephenH's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Dallas area, Texas
Bikes:
Posts: 11,327
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 31 Post(s)
If shipping by Fed Ex or UPS, also check insurance costs.
If you're going to do this a lot, consider a bike with couplers or a folding bike. I know Surly makes a 26" LHT with couplers just for this purpose.
__________________
"be careful this rando stuff is addictive and dan's the 'pusher'."
StephenH is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-13, 11:52 AM   #8
fietsbob 
coprolite
 
fietsbob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: NW,Oregon Coast
Bikes: 7
Posts: 22,221
Mentioned: 19 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1149 Post(s)
Its all math.. a travel Agent can do the research for you, if you don't have the time..

transcontinental tourists often ship their bike to the coast, then Join it by flying themselves out, later.

choice : write do not assemble on the box , & DIY when you get there ,
or pay shop to have it ready to ride .. upon arrival.

Last edited by fietsbob; 05-21-13 at 11:57 AM.
fietsbob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-13, 05:25 PM   #9
flatlander_48
Cathedral City, CA
 
flatlander_48's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Cathedral City, CA
Bikes: 2016 RITCHEY BreakAway (full Chorus 11), 2005 Ritchey BreakAway (full Chorus 11, STOLEN), 2001 Gary Fisher Tassajara mountain bike (sold), 2004 Giant TRC 2 road bike (sold)
Posts: 1,483
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Looigi View Post
If it's a bike and exceeds the basic luggage size, it's $50 on SouthWest, Jet Blue, and Virgin (last I checked a couple of months ago). We use Aerus soft cases to fly with our CF bikes. ~35 lb with bike and all riding accouterments. Last 4 flights on Jet Blue they only charged me once. They saw the weight, input it and printed the tag, and when they went to put it on they asked, what is this? I said a bike. They were too hurried/lazy to go back and charge me for it. Another bonus is it often comes out on the normal carousel rather than at the end in a separate oversize area.

Here's an older review of the Aerus case. It now comes with frame pads so you don't need to use pipe insulation. http://www.dcrainmaker.com/2011/02/h...h-my-bike.html
Bad move. Reply "sports equipment" or "exercise equipment". Both of which are actually true and avoid bike changes.
flatlander_48 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-13, 07:43 PM   #10
Machka 
In Real Life
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Bikes:
Posts: 46,695
Mentioned: 24 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 569 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by flatlander_48 View Post
Bad move. Reply "sports equipment" or "exercise equipment". Both of which are actually true and avoid bike changes.
Sorry, but that's wrong.

You may have been able to get away with that in the past, but not anymore, and not for a few years now.

It comes down to the size of the bicycle box. The bicycle box for the average adult diamond frame bicycle will not fit in their 62" overall measurement. It just won't happen. So therefore the bicycle box is oversized.

You can claim it is a bicycle ... and most often they won't even ask what it is, they'll just say, "That's a bicycle" ... and pay $50.
Or you can claim it is something else entirely ... and pay the oversized, and maybe even the overweight fee.

In most cases, the oversized fee is more than what you'd pay for a bicycle.


Take Southwest, for example ... according to their baggage policy below, if the box is more than 62", which it will be, and you claim it is not a bicycle, you'll be charged $75. However, if you confirm for them that there is a bicycle in the box, you'll be charged $50. Hmmm ... if it were me, I think I'd be claiming that there's a bicycle in the box!

http://www.southwest.com/html/custom...GGAGE-POLICIES
Machka is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-13, 08:00 PM   #11
flatlander_48
Cathedral City, CA
 
flatlander_48's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Cathedral City, CA
Bikes: 2016 RITCHEY BreakAway (full Chorus 11), 2005 Ritchey BreakAway (full Chorus 11, STOLEN), 2001 Gary Fisher Tassajara mountain bike (sold), 2004 Giant TRC 2 road bike (sold)
Posts: 1,483
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Machka View Post
Sorry, but that's wrong.

You may have been able to get away with that in the past, but not anymore, and not for a few years now.

It comes down to the size of the bicycle box. The bicycle box for the average adult diamond frame bicycle will not fit in their 62" overall measurement. It just won't happen. So therefore the bicycle box is oversized.

You can claim it is a bicycle ... and most often they won't even ask what it is, they'll just say, "That's a bicycle" ... and pay $50.
Or you can claim it is something else entirely ... and pay the oversized, and maybe even the overweight fee.

In most cases, the oversized fee is more than what you'd pay for a bicycle.


Take Southwest, for example ... according to their baggage policy below, if the box is more than 62", which it will be, and you claim it is not a bicycle, you'll be charged $75. However, if you confirm for them that there is a bicycle in the box, you'll be charged $50. Hmmm ... if it were me, I think I'd be claiming that there's a bicycle in the box!

http://www.southwest.com/html/custom...GGAGE-POLICIES
No, not my experience. Also, note that I have a travel bike. The Ritchey case is slightly over the united inches limit. However, since 2005 no one has ever asked to measure it. It has been weighed many times and charged as overweight or excess by the total number of bags. On the few times I have been asked what it is, what I said is how I responded. So far, as late as last summer (the last time I flew with my bike), I have not been challenged. And, Southwest doesn't fly to where I live, so I have not flown them in 20 years at least.
flatlander_48 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-13, 08:13 PM   #12
Machka 
In Real Life
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Bikes:
Posts: 46,695
Mentioned: 24 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 569 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by flatlander_48 View Post
No, not my experience. Also, note that I have a travel bike. The Ritchey case is slightly over the united inches limit. However, since 2005 no one has ever asked to measure it. It has been weighed many times and charged as overweight or excess by the total number of bags. On the few times I have been asked what it is, what I said is how I responded. So far, as late as last summer (the last time I flew with my bike), I have not been challenged. And, Southwest doesn't fly to where I live, so I have not flown them in 20 years at least.
What do you mean by "travel bike" ... do you mean a folder? If so, then it doesn't apply to this situation because it will fit into the size limit or very close to it.

We're talking about normal, full-sized diamond-frame bicycles which don't come anywhere near fitting into the size limit, and if the bicycle is at all large (i.e. built for a tall person), when boxed it will come dangerously close to going over the 80" size limit where they could say, "No sorry, we're not taking that".

The check-in people do have measuring tape behind their counters.

Last edited by Machka; 05-21-13 at 08:26 PM.
Machka is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-13, 08:31 PM   #13
linus
Crawler
 
linus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: OH~ CANADA
Bikes:
Posts: 1,079
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Machka View Post
What do you mean by "travel bike" ... do you mean a folder? If so, then it doesn't apply to this situation because it will fit into the size limit or very close to it.

We're talking about normal, full-sized diamond-frame bicycles which don't come anywhere near fitting into the size limit, and if the bicycle is at all large (i.e. built for a tall person), when boxed it will come dangerously close to going over the 80" size limit where they could say, "No sorry, we're not taking that".

The check-in people do have measuring tape behind their counters.
He has a Breakaway by Ritchey. It's like a S&S coupler bike.
linus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-13, 08:36 PM   #14
Machka 
In Real Life
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Bikes:
Posts: 46,695
Mentioned: 24 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 569 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by linus View Post
He has a Breakaway by Ritchey. It's like a S&S coupler bike.
Ah yes ... and again, that's a different story from a normal diamond-frame.
Machka is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-13, 08:41 PM   #15
Machka 
In Real Life
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Bikes:
Posts: 46,695
Mentioned: 24 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 569 Post(s)
After a decade of flying with full-sized, non-coupled, non-folder, diamond-frame bicycles ... Rowan and I have decided that we want to go the folder route when we travel. It's getting harder and harder to fly with a full-sized, non-coupled, non-folder, diamond-frame bicycle.

It used to be that the size of the bicycle box was no big deal. Used to be that the weight limit was quite generous. Used to be that only domestic flights charged for bicycles, and even then they didn't charge much. Used to be that you could buy bicycle boxes in airports. But things have changed.
Machka is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-13, 09:04 PM   #16
flatlander_48
Cathedral City, CA
 
flatlander_48's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Cathedral City, CA
Bikes: 2016 RITCHEY BreakAway (full Chorus 11), 2005 Ritchey BreakAway (full Chorus 11, STOLEN), 2001 Gary Fisher Tassajara mountain bike (sold), 2004 Giant TRC 2 road bike (sold)
Posts: 1,483
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Machka View Post
Ah yes ... and again, that's a different story from a normal diamond-frame.
Not exactly. From the Ritchey site:

Case size: 8.5" W x 26.5"H x 31"L w/ wheels
Ritchey does not guarantee Airlines will not charge

That figures out to 66 united inches. It's also considered oversized. Also, I've never seen anyone use a tape measure at an airport. They have a tubular frame that you drop your bag into. If it goes in, it's legal. If it doesn't, it isn't. However, I've never seen airline personnel use it.

Beyond airlines, ground transportation can also be a problem. In the US, we expect vans or mid-size or larger taxis. There's a lot of places around the world where that just isn't the case. A Toyota Corolla would be a fairly big car and you see a lot of Toyota Yaris'. Problem is, neither or those do very well with bike boxes; plastic, cardboard or otherwise.
flatlander_48 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-13, 09:29 PM   #17
Machka 
In Real Life
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Bikes:
Posts: 46,695
Mentioned: 24 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 569 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by flatlander_48 View Post
Also, I've never seen anyone use a tape measure at an airport. They have a tubular frame that you drop your bag into. If it goes in, it's legal. If it doesn't, it isn't. However, I've never seen airline personnel use it.
I've had them bring out the tape measure to check the size of the box ... especially right after the 62" rule was set in place.

And Rowan bought a reusable bicycle box (coroplast) for one of our trips to North America. It was a nice size and he was able to pack his bicycle in there along with some other luggage. However, when we got to the airport and the tape measure came out, it turned out that this bicycle box had been designed before the size restrictions were tightened. It came in at about 82", and there was some to-ing and fro-ing about whether to allow it on or not.

When we set off on our recent Round-the-World trip, it would have been nice to use that box, but because we knew we'd be doing a lot of flights with different airlines in different countries, we decided not to push our luck.



Quote:
Originally Posted by flatlander_48 View Post
Beyond airlines, ground transportation can also be a problem. In the US, we expect vans or mid-size or larger taxis. There's a lot of places around the world where that just isn't the case. A Toyota Corolla would be a fairly big car and you see a lot of Toyota Yaris'. Problem is, neither or those do very well with bike boxes; plastic, cardboard or otherwise.
Yes ... and it can be a problem with trains too. For example, getting in and out of Heathrow is quite an adventure.
Machka is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-13, 10:12 PM   #18
flatlander_48
Cathedral City, CA
 
flatlander_48's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Cathedral City, CA
Bikes: 2016 RITCHEY BreakAway (full Chorus 11), 2005 Ritchey BreakAway (full Chorus 11, STOLEN), 2001 Gary Fisher Tassajara mountain bike (sold), 2004 Giant TRC 2 road bike (sold)
Posts: 1,483
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
I have a CrateWorks plastic box that I used for the solid framed road bike I used to have. Traveling with that a couple of times was what led me to the BreakAway. It is 88 united inches. Anything you have to carry with 2 hands isn't worth the trouble.
flatlander_48 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-21-13, 10:56 PM   #19
Machka 
In Real Life
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Bikes:
Posts: 46,695
Mentioned: 24 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 569 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by flatlander_48 View Post
I have a CrateWorks plastic box that I used for the solid framed road bike I used to have. Traveling with that a couple of times was what led me to the BreakAway. It is 88 united inches. Anything you have to carry with 2 hands isn't worth the trouble.
Maybe that was the one Rowan got. Whatever it was, it was just over the "we might not let you take this on the plane at all" limit, and we were really fortunate to be able to make it all the way to Canada and back with it on that trip.


And after spending 8+ months travelling around the world with two full-sized touring bicycles, using all sorts of different methods of transportation (airplanes, trains, ferries, vans, etc. and of course the bicycles themselves) ... and after all the other travelling we've done as well ... we've decided we'd rather not travel with full-sized bicycles anymore. We've got our eyes on a pair of folding bicycles.

Hopefully next time we go to North America we'll be able to get them.

Last edited by Machka; 05-21-13 at 11:01 PM.
Machka is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-13, 07:58 AM   #20
Looigi
Senior Member
 
Looigi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Bikes:
Posts: 8,951
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by flatlander_48 View Post
Bad move. Reply "sports equipment" or "exercise equipment". Both of which are actually true and avoid bike changes.
A prevarication I prefer not to employ. Plus, since it's oversize, they could then apply the oversize charge, which is significantly more than the bike fee.

One thing I didn't mention in my first post, it's way way easier to deal with the bike in the soft case getting on and off shuttle buses, getting into taxis or rental cars and otherwise maneuvering it. My 130 lb wife has no problem carrying and handling hers in these situations.

Last edited by Looigi; 05-22-13 at 08:02 AM.
Looigi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-23-13, 07:15 PM   #21
OGS_SD
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Bikes:
Posts: 20
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by flatlander_48 View Post
Not exactly. From the Ritchey site:

Case size: 8.5" W x 26.5"H x 31"L w/ wheels
Ritchey does not guarantee Airlines will not charge

That figures out to 66 united inches. It's also considered oversized. Also, I've never seen anyone use a tape measure at an airport. They have a tubular frame that you drop your bag into. If it goes in, it's legal. If it doesn't, it isn't. However, I've never seen airline personnel use it.

Beyond airlines, ground transportation can also be a problem. In the US, we expect vans or mid-size or larger taxis. There's a lot of places around the world where that just isn't the case. A Toyota Corolla would be a fairly big car and you see a lot of Toyota Yaris'. Problem is, neither or those do very well with bike boxes; plastic, cardboard or otherwise.
It may be technically oversized but in reality it is so close that nobody ever checks and even if they check, they let it slide - in my 32 one-way trips with soft-sided Ritchey case I was never charged once.

As for "tubular frame", I think you may be thinking of carry-on size limits. Since the limit for checked baggage is sum of linear dimensions, obviously the tubular "one size fits all" approach will not work well. For example, an object with dimensions 31" x 31" x 0" (flat square) or 62"x0"x0" (a spear) satisfies linear sum requirement, but a cube 21"x 21" x21" does not. But tubular "fit in here" approach will not work properly for all these objects.
OGS_SD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-23-13, 07:17 PM   #22
OGS_SD
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Bikes:
Posts: 20
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by flatlander_48 View Post
...was what led me to the BreakAway. It is 88 united inches.
Breakaway case is 64 to 66 inches, depending a bit on how you measure. Definitely not 88.
OGS_SD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-13, 06:25 PM   #23
flatlander_48
Cathedral City, CA
 
flatlander_48's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Cathedral City, CA
Bikes: 2016 RITCHEY BreakAway (full Chorus 11), 2005 Ritchey BreakAway (full Chorus 11, STOLEN), 2001 Gary Fisher Tassajara mountain bike (sold), 2004 Giant TRC 2 road bike (sold)
Posts: 1,483
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by OGS_SD View Post
Breakaway case is 64 to 66 inches, depending a bit on how you measure. Definitely not 88.
Post Number 16. 88 is a typo...
flatlander_48 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-25-13, 02:25 AM   #24
Greyryder
Powerful-Ugly Creature
 
Greyryder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Bikes:
Posts: 569
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
And, this is why BMX companies started making "golf" bags. Pity something similar can't be done for full size bikes.
Greyryder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-26-13, 05:43 PM   #25
spinnaker
Every day a winding road
 
spinnaker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Bikes: 2005 Cannondale SR500, 2008 Trek 7.3 FX, Jamis Aurora
Posts: 4,736
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 879 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by flatlander_48 View Post
Bad move. Reply "sports equipment" or "exercise equipment". Both of which are actually true and avoid bike changes.
Urban legend. But it does not matter. With all of the security today, you want to be perfectly honest of what your shipping. If not, you just might have an appointment with a man and a rubber glove.

If traveling inside the US, unless I was hopping from airport to airport, I would not fly with my bike. Either too much hassle, too expensive or both together.
spinnaker is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 09:49 AM.