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Old 05-27-13, 09:35 AM   #1
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Pedals included?

(First post . . . hope I'm posting my question in the right place.)

After years of riding hybrid bikes only, I just ordered my first road bike from my LBS. (a Felt Z95) My question is, will this bike arrive with some kind of basic pedals on it, or do I need to have some ready to install myself when it gets here? Thanks.
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Depends on the bike shop. Did you order pedals with the new bike?
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Depends on the bike shop. Did you order pedals with the new bike?
No, I did not. . . and I didn't think to pose that question to the salesman.
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most road bikes come without pedals

a basic set of platform pedals will cost as little as ten bucks
but a nicer set that will be more reliable on longer rides will start around 25
are you going with clipless (clip-in) pedals and shoes or platform pedals?
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Road pedals are like tires....You have many choices.
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I will most likely go clipless eventually. I want to first get accustomed to riding a road bike, then move on to the shoes and pedals.
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I will most likely go clipless eventually. I want to first get accustomed to riding a road bike, then move on to the shoes and pedals.
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There may be some pedals just for the set up mechanic to test ride the bike ,

or the customer to give it a test ride .. but the personal preference of users , have saddles and pedals
as a part that is promptly swapped out to suit buyer.
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I'm pretty sure any bike you buy arrived at the dealer "complete" with front and rear reflectors, wheel reflector, and cheap reflectorized platform pedals to intended to comply with CPSC requirements:

http://www.cpsc.gov/en/Business--Man...-Requirements/

"""What requirements must pedals meet?
(1) Pedals must have treads on both sides. However, pedals that have a definite side for the rider to use only have to have a tread on that side. Pedals intended to be used only with toe clips do not have to have treads as long as the toe clips are firmly attached to the pedals. However, if the clips are optional, the pedal must have treads.


(2) Bicycle pedals must have reflectors. See §1512.16(e) for this requirement. Sidewalk bicycle pedals do not have to have reflectors."""

"""Are there requirements for reflectors?

To make sure that motorists can see bicycle riders at night, bicycles (other than sidewalk bicycles) must have a combination of reflectors. Because of the complexity of these requirements, we have not attempted to include all of the tests and detail in this summary. You should carefully read the provisions of §1512.16 for more specific information.

Generally, bicycles must have a colorless front reflector, recessed colorless or amber reflectors on the back and front sides of the pedals, and a red reflector on the rear. They must also have a reflector mounted on the spokes of each wheel, or reflective front and rear wheel rims or tire sidewalls. See §1512.18(n) for tests that measure the reflectance value of reflectors.

The front and rear reflectors must be mounted so that they do not hit the ground when the bicycle falls over. The requirements of the regulation also include specific angles for mounting the reflectors. See §1512.18(m) for tests that apply to front and rear reflectors.

The side reflector on a front wheel must be colorless or amber, and the rear wheel side reflector must be colorless or red. Reflective material on the sidewall or rim of a tire must go around the entire circumference, must not peel, scrape, or rub off, and must meet certain reflectance tests. See §1512.18(o) for these reflectance tests and §1512.18(r) for the abrasion test for reflective rims."""
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While there are requirements for pedals, that the bicycle 'must have pedals' does not seem to be one of them.

Many bikes come out of the box without any pedals... none. nada. nmot even $0.99 plastic test ride pedals. It is the retailer's responsibility (moral responsibility if not legal) to inform the customer that pedals are needed, and the customer's right to install or not install any pedals he sees fit.
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Most bikes have cheap platform pedals so that it can at least be ridden. Without pedals it is just an art object!!!!
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If they don't come with pedals, you can either buy a set of basic clipless pedals, like the Shimano M520, or M530, or M324, or similar models from Wellgo or Nashbar. If you are not ready to go clipless now, you can still install one with platforms on one side. Just remember to save the cleats for the day you do go clipless. You will need them.

Alternately, your LBS must have a bin of cheap pedals that they can throw into the deal for free or a nominal cost, as there are plenty of hybrid bikes where the buyer opts for clipless.
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(First post . . . hope I'm posting my question in the right place.)

After years of riding hybrid bikes only, I just ordered my first road bike from my LBS. (a Felt Z95) My question is, will this bike arrive with some kind of basic pedals on it, or do I need to have some ready to install myself when it gets here? Thanks.
Road bikes typically don't come with pedals. This is because there are so many types and there is no way of knowing what a buyer wants. It would also make sense for bikes to come without saddles since they are normally the first thing to be replaced.
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Road bikes typically don't come with pedals. This is because there are so many types and there is no way of knowing what a buyer wants. It would also make sense for bikes to come without saddles since they are normally the first thing to be replaced.
this has always been the excuse
but i dont believe it
including a set of at least a set of cheap platform pedals would help people who arent hardcore cyclists and bike shops
but if each set of pedals costs the manufacturer fifty cents
and they sell ten thousand road bikes
then those pedals cost five thousand dollars

most people however do have their own pedals and accept the explanation
but dont for a minute think it isnt about profit
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There are pedals on the wall at the Bike Shop, grab a pair while there , with bike buy they're cheaper.

if you have not yet made your Mind up, get some that you can use street shoes on .

and they will come in Handy.. get a pedal wrench too.

BTW , Oh Lazy OP, I googled the bike , It reads as thus:

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Superlight Road platform pedal, toe clips, and straps

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this has always been the excuse
but i dont believe it

including a set of at least a set of cheap platform pedals would help people who arent hardcore cyclists and bike shops
but if each set of pedals costs the manufacturer fifty cents
and they sell ten thousand road bikes
then those pedals cost five thousand dollars

most people however do have their own pedals and accept the explanation
but dont for a minute think it isnt about profit
Perhaps so, but even if true, it isn't anything to get upset about. As I said earlier, many bike shops have a bin of cheap platform pedals they will throw in at nominal cost. Compared to the cost of all the other accessories we bike shoppers buy at point of sale or shortly after, this is small potatoes.
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Yes, they are included (according to their web site). Very nice bike BTW! ENJOY http://www.feltbicycles.com/USA/2013...eries/Z95.aspx
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I was looking at bikes on the Specialized site and happened to notice that the $12,000 Tarmac comes with...

"Pedals: Nylon flat test ride, loose ball, w/reflectors."

Seems all their bikes do...as I was sayin'
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I was looking at bikes on the Specialized site and happened to notice that the $12,000 Tarmac comes with...

"Pedals: Nylon flat test ride, loose ball, w/reflectors."

Seems all their bikes do...as I was sayin'
so you found a single brand that includes pedals with all their bikes
whoopty ding

i can assure you most brands do not include pedals with most of their road bikes
cannondale includes pedals with their caad 8 road bikes which are the least expensive they have made
but not with any others

kona doesnt include them with any
nor does giant
trek and jamis includes them with entry level bikes but not competition bikes

i can assure you that many bikes come from the factory with absolutely no pedals in the box
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this has always been the excuse
but i dont believe it
including a set of at least a set of cheap platform pedals would help people who arent hardcore cyclists and bike shops
but if each set of pedals costs the manufacturer fifty cents
and they sell ten thousand road bikes
then those pedals cost five thousand dollars

most people however do have their own pedals and accept the explanation
but dont for a minute think it isnt about profit
On the other hand, if all bikes come with pedals, and 50% of buyers want to use their own pedals, what is the dealer to do with all the leftover, unwanted pedals ?? They will have boxes and boxes of unwanted pedals piling up.
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On the other hand, if all bikes come with pedals, and 50% of buyers want to use their own pedals, what is the dealer to do with all the leftover, unwanted pedals ?? They will have boxes and boxes of unwanted pedals piling up.
or they sell them
or use them as warranty replacements on cheap hybrids
25 percent of which have pedals that fail or
feel unacceptably notchy after a month of riding

'oh your pedals dont feel right? heres a new pair, with our compliments!'
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or they sell them
or use them as warranty replacements on cheap hybrids
25 percent of which have pedals that fail or
feel unacceptably notchy after a month of riding

'oh your pedals dont feel right? heres a new pair, with our compliments!'
Sounds like a win win to me.
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Sounds like a win win to me.
there are three parties involved in a bike sale

the shop
the consumer
and the manufacturer

the manufacturer is the only one who does not benefit from including pedals

so it is a
win win lose
although the losses are so small
i can think of no other reason other than cheapness that they do not include them

how small you sak
i would guess
based on my time working for an importer of taiwanese bike parts
that a chinese made pair of plastic pedals today
costs significantly less than 50 cents
to include with a bike
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there are three parties involved in a bike sale

the shop
the consumer
and the manufacturer

the manufacturer is the only one who does not benefit from including pedals

so it is a
win win lose
although the losses are so small
i can think of no other reason other than cheapness that they do not include them

how small you sak
i would guess
based on my time working for an importer of taiwanese bike parts
that a chinese made pair of plastic pedals today
costs significantly less than 50 cents
to include with a bike
My wife's new Jamis came with a pretty decent pair of pedals with toeclips. However, I had a pair of extra Shimano M324 that we opted to use instead. I planned to give the toeclip pedals to my son, but he said he didn't like them, so instead I traded those toeclips to the bike shop for a pair of resin (plastic) platforms that my son liked better. Bike shop would have given me a $5 credit if I had just given them the pedals.

But back to your point. How many people buying a $2000 or $3000 racing bike will actually use the cheap platforms that you say the manufacturers should include? Maybe 1%?
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My wife's new Jamis came with a pretty decent pair of pedals with toeclips. However, I had a pair of extra Shimano M324 that we opted to use instead. I planned to give the toeclip pedals to my son, but he said he didn't like them, so instead I traded those toeclips to the bike shop for a pair of resin (plastic) platforms that my son liked better. Bike shop would have given me a $5 credit if I had just given them the pedals.

But back to your point. How many people buying a $2000 or $3000 racing bike will actually use the cheap platforms that you say the manufacturers should include? Maybe 1%?

first
i didnt say they should include them
just that they dont include them primarily for cost savings

and sure
it makes no sense to include the absolute cheapest pedals with a 2000 dollar bike
those ones could come with a slightly nicer set of alloy platform pedals
that cost the manufacturer 1 dollar

but
i would guess 5 percent would use them
many purchasers of very fancy bikes are just casual cyclists who like to have the best of everything
the same people that drive audi a8s and hayabusas to work in the morning

for instance

the op is buying a 1000 dollar bike
and will likely use the platform pedals included with it
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