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Old 06-05-13, 08:45 AM   #1
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upgrade or buy new or build up frameset?

I currently am riding an older Trek 720 multi-track but I feel that I am going to want a road bike at some point in the future, I'm not sure how far into the future that will be though. So the quandary is do I bother to spend a little money like maybe about $200 to make the 720 a better bike to ride longer distances or do I just break down and but a comfort geometry road bike, like maybe something from bikes direct? Or do I buy a frameset and build it the way I want it? I think financially buying a new bike is a better way to spend the money.
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It's a dilemma for sure and in my time I've done all three.

Let me ask you how you would make the Trek more distance worthy? New handlebars? New saddle?

And if you were to build up from a frame what frame are you thinking?
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It's a dilemma for sure and in my time I've done all three.

Let me ask you how you would make the Trek more distance worthy? New handlebars? New saddle?

And if you were to build up from a frame what frame are you thinking?
Well I have small list of things that I could do to make the 720 a better distance bike, new stem new bars, both to lower the height of the bars, right now they are way over the height of the saddle. a new saddle and seat post, the current seat post is a junky suspension post, and the saddle is one of those overly padded comfort saddles that I feel has too much padding. And I would have to add at least one set of bar ends for the flat bar, I am unhappy with the limited hand positions that flat bars offer, especially on longer rides.

Now for the frameset option. I am not sure what frameset I would choose. I would want it be aluminum, not a true race frame, but not a steel touring frame either.
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a whole bike is assembled at a point where all the components cost the least,
Since manufacturing assembly factories get their parts By the Truckload.

But, getting all the Parts at Retail is , allowing you to be selective , though it is more costly.

in the middle is A Point of Sale exchange of a few of the OEM parts pick choices,
Where you differ from the Product Manager's decisions.

things like stem swaps for best fit should be a dealers courtesy / choice..

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I think that's a question that only you can answer.

If you were going to acquire a car to drive around just for fun, which would you choose?
1. A brand new Corvette
2. Something from the 50's or 60's to resto-mod to your own personal taste.
3. What does "drive around just for fun" mean?

Pick the bike that best matches your answer.
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Generally, it's more economical to buy a nice bike, than do any significant upgrades to an existing bike. Bicycle manufacturers get volume discounts the likes of which would make us blush (that 105 groupset cost how much?)
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Well I have small list of things that I could do to make the 720 a better distance bike, new stem new bars, both to lower the height of the bars, right now they are way over the height of the saddle. a new saddle and seat post, the current seat post is a junky suspension post, and the saddle is one of those overly padded comfort saddles that I feel has too much padding. And I would have to add at least one set of bar ends for the flat bar, I am unhappy with the limited hand positions that flat bars offer, especially on longer rides.

Now for the frameset option. I am not sure what frameset I would choose. I would want it be aluminum, not a true race frame, but not a steel touring frame either.
I think all of those changes would be excellent. I had a Bianchi hybrid that I made similar changes to. It was my utility/fire trail bike but it was eventually stolen.

To replace it I looked at new but realized I would spend so much immediately replacing stuff to get it like I wanted I decided to build one. Plus I like to play with wrenches and stuff. I built this bike for less than $1000. Here's the thread: http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...A-Build-Thread

On the other hand I bought my last two pure road bikes new. I did have to change the cranks and handlebars on both but that was all.
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I would swap out all the junk on your bike and put in aluminum. Some of it is fairly cheap and will make the bike feel and look so much better. Buy bull horn bars for hand positioning and get a new saddle. So much can be done to make it feel and look better.

Hybrids have the advantage to go decently fast and on some rougher terrain. Won't be zooming fast like road bike and won't take to off road like a mountain bike.

I jump on a few trails to get around town and ride alot of roads. I also jump curbs and ride on some gravel so road won't work for me and a mountain bike is to slow.

Also customizing it with your labor and time is also fun.
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I would swap out all the junk on your bike and put in aluminum. Some of it is fairly cheap and will make the bike feel and look so much better. Buy bull horn bars for hand positioning and get a new saddle. So much can be done to make it feel and look better.
Well I decided to just put some newer stuff on my old Trek, I figured a $150 to make the bike better for me is probably the best way to go for now. Perhaps in the future I'll buy a nice carbon road bike. I searched through the bargain bin section at nashbar and found most of the stuff for the trek there, flat bars, bar ends, stem, seat post, selle saddle, blackburn cycle computer, bottle cages, bottles. That seems like most of the stuff I'd thought about changing, maybe the only other thing would be tires, it's got fat 700x38's on it now. Nice light fast wheels would be nice, but too expensive to put on a heavy steel bike.
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