Raiyn

I could say something, but I won't
https://www.bicycleretailer.com/bicyc..._id=1000808979

ultra-g

Crack n' Fail?

If it were Steel, you'd just bend n' bale

Raiyn

I'm glad someone else said it.

KrisPistofferson

Poor Cannondale, everyone's got an axe to grind! I don't mind 'em,(I've owned my share of Giants and Treks,) but I wouldn't own one 'cuz they are the epitome of FUGLY. I think they hired a color-blind autistic to run their paint shop!

Rowan

Aren't we talking about seat posts being the items causing the recall? A third-party manufactured item probably made alongside many other parts on many other makes of bike? So y'all tellin' me ya got steel seat posts (or at least suspension seat posts) on all ya bikes?

Notable also is the models of bikes subject to the recall.

seely

C'mon, Cannondale had nothing to do with this. Is Giant responsible for the disc tabs breaking off a fork that they got from RST or whoever that was a few months ago?

"Lee Chi, also known as Promax, manufactured the posts in Taiwan for Cannondale for various 2005 bikes..."

alanbikehouston

The suspect part is a seatpost, made in Taiwan by a parts supplier that many bike companies use. Chances are pretty good that most of us have used seatposts from this same supplier. The difference between Cannondale and Bike Company "X", is that Cannondale has high quality standards, and was quick to spot a problem with the seatpost and take steps to deal with the problem.

Someone who buys this same seatpost with some other company's decal on it may find out about the defect the "hard way".

Waldo

They have such high quality standards they're using a Lee Chi post on a $1600 bike. Oh man, that's good comedy.

DieselDan

None of those bikes listed cost that much.

Crack'n'fail

Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. How many of you ride a rock shox or Manitou fork? They've both had multiple recalls in the past. How many of you drive ford, chevy, toyota? They've had multiple recalls in the past.

Waldo

You must not be counting the ones that cost more than $1600.
Reading comprehension is your friend:
"The bikes were sold at Cannondale retailers since December for about $800 to $1,600."
Or, you could go here: https://cyclex.com/site/itemdetails.c...4375&Catalog=1

alanbikehouston

Cannondale has its own in-house testing lab that beats the heck out of stuff before they decide to use it on a bike. Their supplier slipped, and Cannondale caught the problem, and is fixing the problem. Many "boutique" bike companies also have a "parts" tester: you.

There is no company that tests its bikes more thoroughly than Cannondale. And, Cannondale continues to make all of the frames for its USA models right here in the USA. The quality of a company can be judged in part, by how quickly they identify and fix a problem.

Other recent recalls include Shimano brake cables, Manitou 2005 forks, Fizik Pave saddles, Salsa carbon forks, Giant mountain bikes, Specialized handlebars, Specialized brake rotors, Specialized frames, Look seatposts, Cervelo carbon forks, Look carbon forks, Cane Creek seatposts, Rocky Mountain MTB frames, Performance handlebars, Shimano road pedal cleats, Marin mountain bike frames, the list goes on...

seely

I hope you realize that about 90% of bikes at your LBS have a Kalloy post, even in the 1800+ range

Rowan

The relatively high representation of carbon might be a worry.

Waldo

Funny, when I toured their facilities, they didn't have any equipment for testing seatposts.
By the way, you'll be disapponted to learn that Specialized's (and possibly that at the American Bicycle Group's facilities) testing lab is a bit more impressive than that at Cannondale. I'm sure you have data supporting your assertion that Cannondale tests its bikes more thoroughly than any other manufacturer, though.
I am very disappointed you took this line out when you edited your post: "I guess the attacks are coming from folks who have NEVER had a part fail on one of their own bikes."
No failures here. Five bikes in my stable. Knocking on wood veneer right now.

I hope you realize I work at an LBS and happen to scruitinize the spec of the bikes I order. Hence, I can say with confidence your estimate is inflated by approximately 65% (yes, I'm including house brand posts). I'm sure you also realize that Kally and Lee Chi/Promax are different companies and that Kalloy makes products that are at least remotely decent...the fine folks at Lee Chi make parts for high quality bikes by Pacific Cycles, Huffy, and their ilk.
Other than that, you were close...thanks for playing.

alanbikehouston

The problem bike companies have with imported parts is that the parts supplier provides "proto-types" of very high quality. Then, when mass production of the part begins...

In going through "recall" notices, there was a clear pattern. Bikes from the best companies were being recalled in small batches, usually of a few hundred. The problem was generally only a few months old, and only a couple of samples were known to have failed in the field. Essentially, they are making preventative recalls, before any large number of serious problems occur.

Scariest recall: Shimano brake cables that may come apart when the rider attempts to stop the bike.

In contrast, the bikes being sold to Target, K-Mart, and Wal-Mart have been recalled in batches of over 100,000 bikes at a time. Forks that break. Frames that break. Wheels that fall off. I'd bet very few of their customers were ever contacted about the recalls.

By the way, if there is anyone here dumb enough to believe Waldo's claim that Cannondale does not test the seatposts they use, I can get you a good deal on a bridge connecting Manhattan to Brooklyn.

Waldo

It was nice of you to add this to your original post. Very thoughtful.
The stunning thing would be if anyone was dumb enough to believe another of your statements on here that has no basis in fact or reality.
I have actually been to the company's facilities and seen no such testing occuring, nor any apparatus for same. I also have the luxury of confirming this fact with the company. You blindly assert that they perform such testing and provide nothing but a trite saying to refute me, yet people should believe you?

How about this? You don't believe me, PM me if you want to discuss the matter with a Cannondale representative.

By the way, I forgot to mention that Specialized, the ABG, and a few smaller companies take advantage of FEA technology whereas your favorite company does not.

alanbikehouston

Waldo, there are LOTS of thing you have not seen. You were not present during each and every test Cannondale has ever conducted on the components they put on their bikes. You have not seen a textbook on commercial slander. And, you have not seen anyone dumb enough to think America's leading bike company puts untested parts on its bikes.

Waldo

I didn't pretend to be omnipresent. All I said was that they have no rigs that could be used for any meaningful testing of posts. No suitable rigs=no testing.
I noticed I don't have a PM from you asking to speak with the fine folks at Cannondale to confirm any of this. You seem to not be interested in the truth anyway.
Remember, it's only slander if you're wrong. I'm not, so not an issue.
I have seen someone dumb enough to think he knows all about a company's facilities that he's never even seen. America's leading bike company? That's rich.
I'm done with your nonsense and with this thread. Give me a PM when you want to hear the truth, otherwise have fun continuing to spread your misinformation about these forums.