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    Whats better wheels out of these

    Hi all. I have been offered a set of SUN RINGLE RYDE XMB DISC 26''WHEELS for 50. is that a good price? You can see it in the pics below

    I have also been offered a set of Specialized/Alex 26, for 50

    These both have the cogs attached to them. The alex has 8 cog and the disks on the wheels but the SUN RINGLE has 9 cogs but no disk attached on the wheels, they have been taken off cause I got told there a bit rusty, however he still has them!

    My bike is 21 gears, so that's 7 cogs. I don't think I could use a 9 cog, could I?

    What wheel set is better quality out of the sun ringle and alex? I can also post pics of my bike as well if you like to see it:

    SUN RINGLE RYDE XMB DISC 26''WHEELS





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    A 21-speed would be 7 in the back, not 8 or 9. Depending on your bike, neither of these wheels may work, even if you find a 7 speed cassette to replace the 8 or 9 that is on these. Your existing set may use a freewheel, not a cassette, so that cant be swapped. So bottom line, the better set of wheels are the ones that fit your bike. IS there something wrong with your existing wheels? What kind of bike do you have, just so we can tell you if upgrading is even a worthwhile investment.
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    Sorry, yeah 7 cog. My bad. This is the freewheel on my bike wheels at the moment: http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/s...Id_165540#tab1
    Hmm I just fancy a upgrade. I had problem with the back axle which I have repaired now.
    What one do you think is better out of the 2 wheels above?
    Here is a pic of my bike below:


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    Yeah, that freewheel wont go on a wheel with a freehub. I don't recognize that brand of bike, so I don't know if you are trying to put new curtains in a haunted house by going with either of those wheelsets, but you would have to source a 7 speed cassette (not a freewheel) and the proper spacer to fit behind it to use either of those wheelsets. You might be far better off looking for a newer bike that didn't come from a big box store, if you want a blingier ride.
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    Phil Wood freewheel hubs dont suffer the bent axles of cheaper ones with a 10mm threaded axle in them.

    but hand built wheels may cost more than the Bike.

    I built a 7 speed freewheel hub-set based touring bike . with 1 of Phil's Hubs..

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    Quote Originally Posted by demoncyclist View Post
    Yeah, that freewheel wont go on a wheel with a freehub. I don't recognize that brand of bike, so I don't know if you are trying to put new curtains in a haunted house by going with either of those wheelsets, but you would have to source a 7 speed cassette (not a freewheel) and the proper spacer to fit behind it to use either of those wheelsets. You might be far better off looking for a newer bike that didn't come from a big box store, if you want a blingier ride.
    Newer bike? This bike is worth a lot of money. Well was. Can't believe you have never heard of Saracen http://www.saracen.co.uk/bikes

    I just pointed out that my wheels on my bike at the moment use a 7 speed freewheel. So I guess to make it work I either have to change my shifters to 9 speed or change the cassette to a 7 speed one

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    Quote Originally Posted by fietsbob View Post
    Phil Wood freewheel hubs dont suffer the bent axles of cheaper ones with a 10mm threaded axle in them.

    but hand built wheels may cost more than the Bike.

    I built a 7 speed freewheel hub-set based touring bike . with 1 of Phil's Hubs..
    You really have a thing for Phil Wood hubs don't you?

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    They work .. and with the limitations of using freewheels , none are better these days ..

    Bullseye are good but they are not made anymore , new PW have added more user serviceability


    20+ years of flawless service out of mine hauling me and my touring rig around on many Tours here and Europe
    sold the wheel set and rebuilt another..

    Made in USA , infinitely rebuildable , whats not to like ?

    of course the Kid got a bike from an Auto Parts store , there is pro Halford's riders ,
    but they just use the sponsorship Money and ride better bikes than the Halfords shop sells.
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    The very first thing that I would do would be to measure the distance between your rear dropouts in millimeters. It's probably going to be 135 mm which is what you want, but it doesn't hurt to be sure before you start spending money.

    Whichever you buy, you are going to need a 7-speed cassette and a 4.5 mm cassette spacer. If you're going to do the work yourself, you'll need a cassette lockring socket and a chain whip. Also, unless your chain is almost brand new, new cassette = new chain. Assuming the Specialized wheelset has Shimano hubs, that would be my pick because I'm partial to Shimano hubs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retro Grouch View Post
    The very first thing that I would do would be to measure the distance between your rear dropouts in millimeters. It's probably going to be 135 mm which is what you want, but it doesn't hurt to be sure before you start spending money.

    Whichever you buy, you are going to need a 7-speed cassette and a 4.5 mm cassette spacer. If you're going to do the work yourself, you'll need a cassette lockring socket and a chain whip. Also, unless your chain is almost brand new, new cassette = new chain. Assuming the Specialized wheelset has Shimano hubs, that would be my pick because I'm partial to Shimano hubs.
    Thanks. I fitted a new freewheel, chain, axle etc on my bike... First time and I did a pretty good job I think!!

    I think I have all the tools here already so that's good. not familiar with cassette Spacer. How do you know it has to be 4.5mm I need?

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    I forgot to add, that the alex specialized wheel is a 7 cog and freewheel I think... Here are the specs for this sun wheel:

    SUN RINGLE RYDE XMB DISC WHEEL - 26 INCH

    • Model: Ryde XMB
    • Hub: Sun Ringle Ryde
    • Rim: Ryde XMB
    • Hub Colour: Black
    • Rim Colour: Black
    • Spoke Colour: Black
    • Size: 26”
    • Holes: 32
    • Free Hub: Shimano
    • Brake: International Standard 6 bolt disc brake interface
    • Rear Width: 135mm
    • Front Width: 100mm
    • Nipples: 12mm Silver

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    Do you ride the bike off-road? Just wondering about the tires.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JanMM View Post
    Do you ride the bike off-road? Just wondering about the tires.
    A bit of both really. road and grass, gravall. why?

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    On the road, tires that are less robust (big and knobby) would give a performance boost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by babysnoop View Post
    How do you know it has to be 4.5mm I need?
    Because that's the width spacer that you need to make a 7-speed cassette fit onto an 8/9/10-speed freehub body. Local bike shops will have them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JanMM View Post
    On the road, tires that are less robust (big and knobby) would give a performance boost.
    I see. I did look into that, and it stated these tires are all rounder good for road and dirt... Hmmm. send me some links of decent ones If you could please

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retro Grouch View Post
    Because that's the width spacer that you need to make a 7-speed cassette fit onto an 8/9/10-speed freehub body. Local bike shops will have them.
    ahhh I see. Cool bro... Could you send me a link of the Spacer. www.halfords.co.uk

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    Again, the FREEWHEEL that you have is a different type of mechanism than a FREEHUB equipped bike that uses a CASSETTE. They are NOT interchangable. Yes, you can get a 7 speed cassette and a spacer, so you could possible use that wheel, although the dropout spacing for a 7 speed freewheel equipped bike is probably 126mm, instead of the more modern 135mm. If that frame is aluminum, then it may be difficult to squeeze a freehub equipped wheel in there. And just because a bike seems expensive to you doesn't necessarily make it worth putting any money into for upgrades.
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    Quote Originally Posted by demoncyclist View Post
    Again, the FREEWHEEL that you have is a different type of mechanism than a FREEHUB equipped bike that uses a CASSETTE. They are NOT interchangable. Yes, you can get a 7 speed cassette and a spacer, so you could possible use that wheel, although the dropout spacing for a 7 speed freewheel equipped bike is probably 126mm, instead of the more modern 135mm. If that frame is aluminum, then it may be difficult to squeeze a freehub equipped wheel in there. And just because a bike seems expensive to you doesn't necessarily make it worth putting any money into for upgrades.
    I appreciate your comments and I take it on board BUT take a chill pill before you reply back!! There IS NO need to SPEAK like you are ANGRY!! Jeezz... Hope you don't speak like this in your day job to customers,
    ( if you have a job that is ) I asked for help and in a calm, chilled manner, not to be spoken to in a negative, loud way.... I guess your avatar PIC says it all!!! DEVIL!!!!

    Since when did I say my FREEWHEEL WILL WORK?? I just pointed out that my original wheels on my bike have a freewheel at the moment. I didn't even say anything about trying to put a freewheel on this new sun wheels I have.... I know how it all works, I have changed the chain, the freewheel, serviced the whole bike really. I just wanted some advice because I am not familiar with costly wheels with removable hubs, conversation etc. . .
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    Since questions like this get asked all the time, I felt it was important to point out that there are 2 different systems. Not knowing how much you know about the inner workings of bicycles, I wanted to reinforce the point. I wasn't angry, just emphasizing the key words. You are asking for advice, so take it and say thanks. Some of us have been doing this since before your shadow hit the planet's surface. You are getting the benefit of our experience at no charge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by demoncyclist View Post
    Since questions like this get asked all the time, I felt it was important to point out that there are 2 different systems. Not knowing how much you know about the inner workings of bicycles, I wanted to reinforce the point. I wasn't angry, just emphasizing the key words. You are asking for advice, so take it and say thanks. Some of us have been doing this since before your shadow hit the planet's surface. You are getting the benefit of our experience at no charge.
    That's fair enough. Thanks for the advice you have given me so far. My question maybe answered somewhere but I can't seem to find that thread where someone has asked the same question as me. Especially on 2 of these wheels I have pointed out above!

    If you like to find the thread like mine, then please post it here so I can see it

    You are getting the benefit of our experience at no charge.

    I guess you do get what you pay for


    Do you know if the Sun wheels, will accept 2.30 or 2.35 inch tires? Because the inner metal doesn't look so wide, where the inner tube sits
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    Quote Originally Posted by babysnoop View Post
    Do you know if the Sun wheels, will accept 2.30 or 2.35 inch tires? Because the inner metal doesn't look so wide, where the inner tube sits
    Are you sure that your BIKE will accept 2.30 or 2.35 inch tires? Unless it came stock with that size tires, I wouldn't bet on it. One place to check is front derailleur clearance when your chain is in the granny ring.

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    Hi. Stock tires where 2.35 but couldn't find the size replacements so I got some 2.3 on the bike at the mo!

    Just curious weather the sun wheels will accept 2.30? There 26 inch wheels but the width of the where the inner tube sits is a bit small... Hmmm... I guess they will and they will expand bigger and be gripped on the groove of the wheel once I pump the inner tube up?

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