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    Must... ride... more... Phil_gretz's Avatar
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    We've talked about the utility cost savings of bicycling (cost of entry and maintenance versus per-mile cost of car). Let's compare to other forms of entertainment (not just scuba diving).

    Golf = the cost of entry is about the same at the entry level ~ $500 or so. Cost per round (public) is ~$25 if you're economical and walk. Cost per round at a finer course can be upwards of $150-200. That doesn't include any stops at the clubhouse before or after...

    My friends who golf (the economical ones) probably spend $1500 per year. My high roller friends with corporate memberships to Pinehurst, Trump National, Kinloch, etc. probably spend over $10,000 per year.

    Bike riding, expensive? I don't think so.

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    Just pedal my friend, just pedal.
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    Right now I'm just frustrated!

    There's just no way I should be out of this much money if in fact everything was on the up and up. By that, I mean that whatever I was told was wrong, was then fixed. I put my 8 speed cassette back on my bike and thought everything was fine...boy was I wrong!

    Today was a day for me to finally see what I had. A guy on a 3500 dollar all carbon triathlon bike was around 10 seconds behind me as I made the turn (bike trail end) to head back. He was going pretty fast, so I knew I had my work cut out. Going back (east bound) was directly against the wind. I didn't care, I lowered my head and took off! The guy got beside me 3.5m later and said "thank you" as he was passing me. I got next to him and said "no, thank you!" I tried to shift in another gear to take off, and all that was heard was clicking, skipping. At that point after knowing I had spent so much money, I wanted to take the bike and throw it in the river (Canadian River). I was so disappointed that I had missed the chance to see what kind of engine I had against someone I know to be an excellent rider.

    The worse part of this is...someone looked at my bike and said he thinks it is just the HUB...are you kidding me right now? He said I should change the back wheel and he'll bet that I wouldn't get any skipping. Oh boy...I better learn about this stuff very soon or else!

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    Quote Originally Posted by terrya View Post
    Right now I'm just frustrated!

    There's just no way I should be out of this much money if in fact everything was on the up and up. By that, I mean that whatever I was told was wrong, was then fixed. I put my 8 speed cassette back on my bike and thought everything was fine...boy was I wrong!!
    Um. You put an 8-speed cassette on a 9-speed derailleur/shifter arrangement. Why did you do this?

    EDIT: I just read your other post. So the bike was originally 8-speed, and the LBS technician tried to swap in a 9-speed cassette? How about replacing the 8-speed cassette with an unworn one? Assuming that your shifters are okay, and with your new 9-speed chain, it should work.

    Did you get your money back from the LBS?
    Last edited by Phil_gretz; 08-19-13 at 01:05 PM.

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    Learn to do simple tune ups and repairs by yourself
    I would go even further to say ; Do everything yourself!
    I have a friend of mine that literaly hates taking his car to a rapairman and repairs everything alone.
    Though in this case the bike you got was in bad condition to start with ,if you want anything of good quality you must forget the cost and get some knowledge ,because good quality means knowing how to distinguish between parts that are better and worse. I have a bike with Shimano cassette that is a cheap one ,but is now 13 years old and runs on it.I bought a new bike a month ago and i am feeling the need to change the bearings on the pedals movement, but i will just wait the warranty man to do this if anything goes for now.Another example is the city bike i used before that one .. It was a russian 30+ year old bike and nothing except the brake cables needed replacing.So the word '' quality" is a very miscelaneous thing.

    Another advice though would be - go simple and get a single speed bike with internal brake . If good quality you will not do any repairs on it soon.






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    I just took the wheel apart all the way to the bearings. I've greased the bearings and used a large allen wrench to tighten the freehub body, which was very loose. For some reason, I think that was the cause. Anyway...I put everything back together using the 9 speed cassette the bike store sold me. I just went out front to test everything out, and to my surprise I didn't get any skipping. I didn't ride hard, so I won't know until tomorrow when I go riding.
    @Phil

    The 8 speed cassette was the original cassette that was on the bike when I brought it in. I didn't go back to the bike shop, I just don't want to deal with that headache. I'll keep the 9 speed chain and cassette and hopefully get a 9 speed shifter for cheap somewhere. It is hard to explain how I feel about the situation, since I trusted them fully and cooperated with any and everything they said I needed. I felt special, now I feel used. So I doubt if I'll every go back there for any reason.

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    How do you think bike brands pay athletes to race for them ? By overcharging you on every single thing they sell.

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