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Old 09-10-13, 08:00 PM   #1
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62 miles on A Moutain Bike ?

I'm riding an old trek bike and about to purchase a new bike in order to comfortably ride the next tour de shore (Philly to ac) could a newer mountain bike Make the trip ?? I honestly don't want to ride a road bike or hybrid so any suggestions ? Make and model ... I'm looking around the 400-600 $ price

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There is a touring subforum....this is commuting.
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A recent local mileage contest multiplied mountain bike miles by 1.3 to approximate road bike equivalent miles. I think my mountain bike commuter was quite a bit more efficient than that before I put the dynamo headlamp on it. With the dynamo it might be about right.

Trail conditions obviously might require substantially more energy but that's not relevant to this discussion.
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I'm riding an old trek bike and about to purchase a new bike in order to comfortably ride the next tour de shore (Philly to ac) could a newer mountain bike Make the trip ?? I honestly don't want to ride a road bike or hybrid so any suggestions ? Make and model ... I'm looking around the 400-600 $ price

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Why not? I've done 62 miles on a mountain bike that required two crossings of the Continental Divide at 11600 feet. That was on dirt and with knobby tires. It's not that easy but it can be done.
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I think if you put 32mm slicks on it there would be very little difference between a mountain bike and a road bike, unless you were riding very fast. You might want to put on some bar ends or something so you could move your hands around to some different positions.
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I used to do regular 40mi rides on my Cannondale, and I have gone up to 80 miles, on the road.

The main difference is that a MTN bike is not as efficient on the road as a dedicated Road bike.

a 29er with semi-slicks would make it a little more road worthy, and some people prefer the upright position of a MTN bike.

Around Lake Tahoe, it was pretty common to see MTN Bikes everywhere around town.

So, ride what is comfortable to you, and enjoy the scenery.

As a side note, I saw lots of MTN Bikes on the California DeathRide, 126 miles with 5 mountain passes.
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There is a touring subforum....this is commuting.
He's not going on a tour, but a charity ride- http://irishpub.donordrive.com/?fuse...s.page&id=1025

I did move the thread to General Cycling as the topic has zero Commuting relevancy, though .
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I did a tour on a Walmart mountain bike in 2005 averaging over 60 miles a day, so yes, you can do 60 miles on a mountain bike. You will not be as fast as a road bike or even a hybrid. When it comes to distance, comfort plays a very important part, you want to make sure whatever bike you get, you are comfortable riding. Putting slicks on a mountain bike instead of "knobby" tires will make you faster and/or ride smoother.
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I'm riding an old trek bike and about to purchase a new bike in order to comfortably ride the next tour de shore (Philly to ac) could a newer mountain bike Make the trip ?? I honestly don't want to ride a road bike or hybrid so any suggestions ? Make and model ... I'm looking around the 400-600 $ price

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I rode a charity ride from Philadelphia to AC in the 70's on a one speed balloon tired Schwinn with a knee action fork. Big and heavy and it was easy as can be because except for riding over the Ben Franklin Bridge the ride was as flat as a pancake and the pace as relaxed as you wish. Any bike that fits will do.
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I rode a charity ride from Philadelphia to AC in the 70's on a one speed balloon tired Schwinn with a knee action fork. Big and heavy and it was easy as can be because except for riding over the Ben Franklin Bridge the ride was as flat as a pancake and the pace as relaxed as you wish. Any bike that fits will do.
+1. I have ridden a mountain bike on pavement farther than 100 km a number of times. A mountain bike will be more comfortable for some riders, compared to a "performance" road bike. Whatever works, works...
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The longest ride I did on a 40 lb department store mtn bike with knobby tires was 200 km. My first 200 km randonnee.
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On August 24, 2013, I rode my 35 pound Trek Wahoo 29er hardtail with 29” x 2.1 street tires to Jim Thorpe, PA and back and I purposely took the longer more mountainous route home to make it a 200-mile ride. I was also wearing a large backpack heavily loaded with edible and non-edible provisions for the ride. I totally enjoyed that long distance ride and can hardly wait to do it again. I prefer riding long distances via my 29er hardtail rather than my lightweight Trek 2.1 road bike, as my 29er with its front suspension and large volume tires yields a really smooth ride. Since I also ascend and descend numerous mountains, I like that it’s equipped with hydraulic disc brakes (upgraded from the lousy Tektro Novella mechanical disc brakes it came with).

So even a mountain bike with large volume tires could be ridden from Philly to AC so long as YOU have the legs and heart to pedal it the distance. However, I’d advise installing a set of street tires rather than making the attempt on knobby tires, as knobby tires are more energy demanding than slick-centered street tires.

Even though the Philly to AC ride is nearly as flat as a pancake, it won’t be an easy ride if there’s a stiff headwind that day. Via stiff unrelenting headwinds, it’s akin to riding uphill virtually non-stop and the stiffer the headwinds, the steeper it makes the simulated uphill, so keep that in mind. Don't count on the headwind being a tailwiond on the way home either, as the wind oft times dies off closer to the end of the day and if you have my luck, it oft times changes directions to become a headwind on the way home as well!
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I did 60 miles on my 12 year Apollo a lot of it with a cracked wheel rim on canal towpath mostly.

Can be done
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I'm riding an old trek bike and about to purchase a new bike in order to comfortably ride the next tour de shore (Philly to ac) could a newer mountain bike Make the trip ?? I honestly don't want to ride a road bike or hybrid so any suggestions ? Make and model ... I'm looking around the 400-600 $ price

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It could easily make the trip. But you will do yourself a favor if you get some street slick tires for the ride. I run Continental Contact Pro's on my MTB. I did a 60 mile + ride on mine once. I rode 30 mile out to the sag stop for the Big Dam Bridge 100, helped out for the duration, then rode home. The ironic thing was that the people on the route I was helping were only riding 50 miles.
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Put slicks on it and get out and ride before the event. No bicycle will "get you to the end" of 62 miles if you aren't up to the task as a rider ;-).

Other slicks/semi-slicks to consider, Schwalbe Big Apple or Marathons, there are a lot of options.

Lock your fork out if it has suspension and the option to do so. Will keep you from using up energy in bounce.
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the bike never gets tired.....it will go as long as you keep pedalling.
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The difference is really efficiency as others said. I used to commute 27 miles one way on both a mountain bike and a road bike. With slicks, the mountain bike was a little better. But the difference was 4 mph when I went hard (16 mph avg versus 20 mph)
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62 miles on a mountain bike? HTFU!
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start early 62 miles in 7 hours is a modest pace..

knock out 40 before Lunch .

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Back in the 80s I toured on my mountain bike up to 90km a day because my only other bike was a road bike... but mountain bikes back then were more like hybrids are now, with no suspension. If you lock out the suspension (it eats pedalling energy) and put narrower tires on it it will do the job, although in more time than a road bike.
Is there a particular reason you don't want a hybrid? Because when you lock out the suspension, you'll effectively have one, but heavier.
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The first several 100k's and the first 5 hundred-mile rides and the first 200k I did were on my Worksman cruiser. So yes, it can be done. On the other hand, if you're riding reasonable distances on the road, it's kind of silly to reject road bikes out-of-hand.
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The first several 100k's and the first 5 hundred-mile rides and the first 200k I did were on my Worksman cruiser. So yes, it can be done. On the other hand, if you're riding reasonable distances on the road, it's kind of silly to reject road bikes out-of-hand.
Agreed.

What if you do a lot of combination riding (road and off-road on the same ride)? Would you then prefer a road or MTB?
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More Information, Please...

"old Trek bike" isn't fully descriptive enough. Is it a 700 or 800 series rigid fork hybrid? That might be upgraded with tires and grips to make the ride comfortably.

Or, maybe your $400-600 hardtail MTB could be okay, with proper tires and a locked-out front suspension. Again, modify the grips/ends for comfort.

Or, maybe you shouldn't discard the notion of a road bike. In your price range, there are pretty nice used touring bikes that would handle this ride and others on pavement very nicely and with comfort. Older Trek, Miyata, Fuji, Univega, Centurion, and Bianchi tourers come to mind. There are literally a dozen very nice ones from which to choose.

What size bike to you ride?
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Absolutely, my first imperial century was on a mountain bike with slicks on it. I'm about as aerodynamic as a brick, so I'm sure you can do it! But, like others have said, when I rode my first century on a road bike it was much easier/faster.
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Every bike has it's advantages and disadvantages. If a mountain bike is the way you want to go, then go for it. You know what you want the best, and it's up to you to live with that decision.

Long rides absolutely can be done on a mountain bike. I just finished Cycle Oregon (I rode a road bike) yesterday. There was a huge variety of bikes there, from the latest and greatest carbon road bikes to a beat up Wal-Mart quality Schwinn mountain bike.

As others have mentioned, you will want to get slicks for the mountain bike. It will make life much easier for you. For bike, I'd suggest something on the lower end, like a Trek 820. (http://www.trekbikes.com/us/en/bikes...port/820/820/#)

Spend the rest of the money you have on slicks, saddle bag with the essentials like tube and tools, water bottles and cages, and of course some good quality cycling shorts.
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