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    Shoe Clips first timer ... need info

    today I used some plastic toe clips with straps. Really liked the improvement but did not like trying to get my foot past the strap and into the clip - definitely not for me. Though I have a mountain bike (1990 Cannondale 3.0 and I strictly ride streets) I was thinking about shoe clips. I have no experience with shoes and shoe clips but I read there are at least three different types of clips. Haven't read much more than that yet.

    Based on your experiences, what clips/shoes do you recommend (older models because I usually buy used). Feel free to reply with anything you feel will be helpful such as advantages, drawbacks, etc. Thanks ...

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    One thing, I have done which is way off the mainstream is using toe clips and straps,
    to use loose fitting shoes.
    with their recessed resole cleats.. sorted at the shoe repair..

    smooth shoe sole lets the flip and insert the toe work well ..

    I have some recessed cleat SPD shoes they have to fit snugger , or you may, pull your feet out of your shoes.
    in trying to unclip .. perhaps..

    Mostly I use platform pedals and street shoes.. around town is most of my biking .
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    You can use half-clips or even full clips and just no straps. This won't let you pull up on the pedal, but also will make sure your foot doesn't slide forward off of the pedal.

    I use SPD pedals and cleats which are "designed" for mountain bikes on my road bikes. The cleats are (mostly) recessed in the shoes so you can walk. In the summer, I use them with Nashbar sandals; when it's cold I just use mountain bike shoes.

    My pedals are dual-sided (SPD on one side, platform on another) so I can ride without special shoes if I want to, but I only do when I'm riding my bike in my driveway tuning it up.
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    To use toe clips safely:
    Pick a shoe with a sole that is not too knobbly and has a clean upper, no mouldings.
    Pick a toe clip the correct size.
    Use a stiff (leather) strap.
    Put a twist into the strap, inside the pedal cage.
    Leave the straps loose, dont cinch them tight.

    Practice the pedal flip to get your feet in. If you miss, just pedal on the other side and try again.
    To remove your feet, slide back, not sideways.
    Once you get this, toe clips are hassle free way of increasing efficiency (short of racing style) and preventing sudden slip off the pedals.

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    Not to hijack but, I used to have a Stump Jumper and an old Sekai that both got stolen about 5 years ago. I am now building up my 5 YO Gunnar Sport Frame. I have some really stiff (I love them) NW MtB shoes? I am looking at the XTR M980 for my Gunnar. I will also purchase a Mountain Bike next spring. I used SPD pedals on my old Sekai but did not know any difference. Are the XTR's ok for road use? The are fairly light and the shoes are stiff for a mountain bike shoe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tomana View Post
    today I used some plastic toe clips with straps. Really liked the improvement but did not like trying to get my foot past the strap and into the clip - definitely not for me. Though I have a mountain bike (1990 Cannondale 3.0 and I strictly ride streets) I was thinking about shoe clips. I have no experience with shoes and shoe clips but I read there are at least three different types of clips. Haven't read much more than that yet.

    Based on your experiences, what clips/shoes do you recommend (older models because I usually buy used). Feel free to reply with anything you feel will be helpful such as advantages, drawbacks, etc. Thanks ...
    I run with about everything across my stable of bikes, from clipless to minis to straps and cages. To me, the most user friendly and utilitarian of the group are the Powergrips, with the one caveat that if you wear different profiled shoes from one ride to another they require adjusting - which is a PITA. Second best are mini toe clips, just not much positive connection to the pedals. I like fixie straps on a couple bikes, but they get hot on long rides and slipping in is not as fast a Powergrips, though they are easier to adjust. Cages and straps wreck your shoes and toes. Clipless are ...clipless, some advantages but you have to live with the whole clipless pedal and shoe thing - if you ride fast they are basic equipment, and I ride Shimano SPD with minimal VP pedals because I also take those shoes to spin class..

    Powergrips, they come up used on eBay from time to time and you can buy the straps separately and mount them to platforms if you're handy:

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...MMCYE8H9KZBEH8
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    lets clarify some terms here

    toe clips are the cages that attach to the front of the pedals
    into which your feet go

    most toe clips are used with straps that can adjust
    to tighten or loosen the fit of the toe clips on your feet

    some toe clips are designed to be used without straps

    toe clips are usually used with redular shoes
    but in earlier times there were pedals and toe clips
    designed to be used with cycling shoes with cleats on the bottom
    mainly used for racing

    the other style of foot attachment
    are called clipless pedals
    because they attach your feet without the use of toe clips
    these are also sometimes called clip-in pedals
    these are always used with cycling shoes that accept
    a cleat on the bottom

    of clipless or clip-in style pedals
    there are two main types

    road pedals
    which use a large cleat and a rigid soled shoe
    that is very difficult to walk with

    and mountin bike or touring pedals
    that usually use a smaller cleat
    that is recessed inside a more normal treaded sole
    these shoes are designed to be easier to walk with

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomana View Post
    today I used some plastic toe clips with straps. Really liked the improvement but did not like trying to get my foot past the strap and into the clip - definitely not for me. Though I have a mountain bike (1990 Cannondale 3.0 and I strictly ride streets) I was thinking about shoe clips. I have no experience with shoes and shoe clips but I read there are at least three different types of clips. Haven't read much more than that yet.

    Based on your experiences, what clips/shoes do you recommend (older models because I usually buy used). Feel free to reply with anything you feel will be helpful such as advantages, drawbacks, etc. Thanks ...
    Since you ride city streets ,and not a race track or the dirt, what the heck do you need pedal clips for??

    Life is simple riding now so why screw it up with pedal clips???
    My preferred bicycle brand is.......WORKSMAN CYCLES
    I dislike clipless pedals on any city bike since I feel they are unsafe.

    Originally Posted by krazygluon
    Steel: nearly a thousand years of metallurgical development
    Aluminum: barely a hundred, which one would you rather have under your butt at 30mph?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightshade View Post
    Since you ride city streets ,and not a race track or the dirt, what the heck do you need pedal clips for??

    Life is simple riding now so why screw it up with pedal clips???
    Best reply ... thanks {8^D

    Thanks for all the replies. Was considering the Power Grips but saw this last reply and it rang true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightshade View Post
    Since you ride city streets ,and not a race track or the dirt, what the heck do you need pedal clips for??

    Life is simple riding now so why screw it up with pedal clips???
    I find riding clipped in is much more comfortable than not (I ride a recumbent which makes it a more obvious choice, but there are a lot of DF riders who feel the same way). In my case, I have a lot more control of the bike because I'm clipped in (and, again, many DF riders feel the same way).

    Before clipping in, I almost always used toe clips (the only exception is my folding bike). Having my feet loose on the pedals feels like an accident waiting to happen.*

    As far as what the OP should do, it depends on what he wants. As I pointed out, I'd recommend at least half clips, but there are a lot of choices and whatever works for him is fine with me.

    * On smooth pedals, it's easy to slip off of them (which can be disastrous, particularly when standing but I've seen people fall because of this while sitting on the seat). Even with pinned or "grippy" pedals, it's easy enough to have your foot slip off of your pedal and have your calf run down the spikes that were designed to keep your foot on the pedal; I've seen plenty of people who've hurt themselves doing that.
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    Mountain bikes shoes and cleats might be a good choice if you want the ability to be able to walk a bit in them because the cleat is recessed. Most "road" shoes have a thick cleat attached to the bottom of the shoe, making it tricky to walk more than a few feet without slipping or damaging the cleat.
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    Hi,

    I use toe clips on my road bike and plain pedals on my folder.
    No problems with either. With straps your toe should not touch
    the front of the clip, so no toe issues, and the straps should
    not be tight, just tight enough to help a lot but not hinder.

    Getting your foot in and out of straps/clips is just practice.

    In the city any sort of clipping system is a complete pain.
    I've never had any sort of problem with plain pedals
    using reasonable pedals and decent footwear.

    Straps and clips don't belong on a MTB IMO.


    rgds, sreten.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cplager View Post
    I find riding clipped in is much more comfortable than not (I ride a recumbent which makes it a more obvious choice, but there are a lot of DF riders who feel the same way). In my case, I have a lot more control of the bike because I'm clipped in (and, again, many DF riders feel the same way).

    Before clipping in, I almost always used toe clips (the only exception is my folding bike). Having my feet loose on the pedals feels like an accident waiting to happen.*

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    imho
    toe clips and straps are a nusance
    and a hazard
    if you ever need to put a foot down
    like city riding

    clipless pedals
    however
    have instantaneous and predicable release
    with some practice
    and are fine on any bike

    if anyone thinks that
    because they tried toe clips
    and found them unpleasant
    that clipless are also bad
    well
    ive got a news flash for you walter cronkite
    they arent

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