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Old 09-21-13, 05:21 PM   #1
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I thought I was going to get killed today!

I've been riding religiously for almost a year now. I have had close calls of varying degrees, dealt with road rage and had more just What The Freak moments than I can count. But I have never ever thought I was going to get run over and killed until today.

I looked back saw a SUV that was about a quarter of a block behind me so I took the lane about 100-150 feet ahead of a left turn I needed to make. I think it's worth noting that the turn is against traffic and there is no turn lane. Next thing I know I hear an engine behind me. Then honk, I look back and SUV is a foot or less from my rear tire. I begin to put out my left arm to signal to him that I'm turning at the next intersection, which is less than 50 feet away, and I hear hooooooooooooooooonk. Without thinking the turn signal became a finger and ******* pulls into the oncoming lane and gets right along side me. He begins to come over into me. Stops with less than five inches of space and begins to come over again. I know he saw me cause the front passenger door was directly next to my bike. I yelled "What the **** are you trying to do? Are you trying to kill me?" so loud that people on the sidewalk heard it and my throat is still sore. Someone yelled at me to calm down.

He just flew by me in the wrong lane. The whole thing happened in less than two or three minutes but it felt like an eternity. I'm still really shaken up. I can't decide if the ******* was just trying to scare me out of the lane or if he really wanted to run me over. For what's its worth I never gave him the lane. I didn't catch a plate and even if I did the NYPD would at best tell me there is nothing they can do at worst tell me I'm not allowed to take the lane.

I'm sorry for ranting but I needed to let some steam out. I'm going to get that helmet came ASAP.

Too long; justifiably didn't read. Son-a-***** in SUV got road rage, I can't decided if he was trying to scare me or run me over. Thinking about helmet cam much more seriously know. Sorry for rant.
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Old 09-21-13, 05:38 PM   #2
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People in SUV are compensating for a lack of dick and intelligence.

I'm happy you survived because you are such and easy target in the "Lies" thread.

I lied.

I'm glad the stupid ass didn't run you down. Be safe first...
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Glad you are okay.
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Old 09-21-13, 08:17 PM   #4
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Thanks for the concern fellas!
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A helmet cam video sent to NY State Police HQ would probably receive a different response than you calling the local yokels.

I had a similar experience in Georgia (only on a motorcycle) about two years ago and, probably because I was not only not local but also an out-of-stater, the local PD brushed me off as quickly as they could. I sent a handlebar mounted video of the encounter to the Georgia State Police and told them I would return to the state if necessary for the guy to be prosecuted. I got a response from them that they investigated and ticketed the guy who, after being told there was indisputable video of the encounter, paid fines for three violations. The video not only had a clear pic of the entire encounter, of the license plate, of both driver and passenger looking directly into the camera,it also showed that the driver was clearly drinking an alcoholic beverage while driving. YMMV

(FWIW, I now have three of those 808/909 keychain video cams permanently mounted on both my motorcycle and car. Cheap, easy to use and have been useful in six different incidents.)
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I reported a dude that did something similar to this to me several times. No satisfaction from the police, so I decided to go vigilante. I discovered where he lived based off his plates and paid his vehicle a visit at 2am with a ball peen hammer. Never saw that car again and never had another problem. I know he didn't know it was me so I felt safe to do this even though I broke the law. FYI, I'm not recommending you do this either, but for me I'd had enough.
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Old 09-21-13, 09:59 PM   #7
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20_700c sadly where the incident occurred was on a surface street in Brooklyn which means NYPD. Even if, for some reason, I was on a highway the NYPD Highway Patrol unit has jurisdiction within the confines of the city. I'll give it a try if I'm ever in a similar situation upstate.

Knobster, that's a very, um, unique way to approach this issue.

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I'm pretty sure he could have easily run you over or knocked you over, so it's far more likely he was trying to scare you.

I know it's not much, but when I take the lane with a vehicle approaching from the rear, I signal with an arm out before I do. I think it helps appeal to their sense of vehicular propriety.
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Looigi, the more I think about it the more I think he was just trying to scare me over or force me out of his way. I know this is stupid but I'm glad I held my ground. People like him shouldn't be allowed to terrorize others with impunity. I'm still very glad to be alive let alone uninjured.

I am feeling very frustrated with drivers, pedestrians and yes even fellow cyclists. My day today consisted of a three leg bike trip. A 1 mile trip to a coffee shop. A half mile long trip from there to the library and 5 miles to the park around it and back home. I got really frustrated with the cars blocking the bike lanes, the pedestrians walking wherever they please. I even felt frustrated by the cyclists who took their family out and proceed to swerve all over the bike lane whilst doing 2MPH. I like to think I'm pretty patient for a New York cyclist but I didn't show it today. But above all I feel very vulnerable and exposed now. Am I going nuts or am I at least as sane as anyone else who bikes?
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Getting into a road rage pi**ing contest with a car or SUV on a bike is foolish, to be generous. If he had hit you, even if you were "right" you'd still be injured or dead.
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The chances of someone having so much road rage that they would hit you on purpose is slim to none. You did just fine.

Stand up to that trash, you have just as much right to be on that road as they do. Also, I've found a squirt of sticky sports drink all of their window (or inside their car if you're lucky enough to catch them yelling with the window down) is highly effective.

And if you're lucky enough for them to stop and try to harass you outside of the car, a multi tool in your hand with one of the screwdriver bits between your fingers can do some damage.
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The chances of someone having so much road rage that they would hit you on purpose is slim to none. You did just fine.

Stand up to that trash, you have just as much right to be on that road as they do. Also, I've found a squirt of sticky sports drink all of their window (or inside their car if you're lucky enough to catch them yelling with the window down) is highly effective.

And if you're lucky enough for them to stop and try to harass you outside of the car, a multi tool in your hand with one of the screwdriver bits between your fingers can do some damage.
Foolish advice. Here in Pennsyltucky you'd get shot, and that's that.
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Foolish advice. Here in Pennsyltucky you'd get shot, and that's that.
Probably so in AZ too, but I refuse to just roll over and take it. I believe you have every right to stand up for yourself when some idiot is driving erratically towards you like they own the road.

Also, this is a pretty crappy country if everyone living in it is afraid to take a stand for fear of being shot.
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And the police might prosecute for a shooting. Every Officer wants a gun homicide collar!
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report it - you don't need a plate number to report it. all calls are taped so when they answer just describe what happened.

it's tricky, if the approaching vehicle is close I might pull over let them pass and then cross. sometimes when I make turns I put out my hand to signal if it works the approaching vehicles will slow, sometimes it doesn't work so I put my arm down and try again.

try to relax you are not the only person this happens to, but yeah this was a bad one. try to shake it off.
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I have mixed feelings on this subject of car drivers vs cyclists. As a cyclist, we've all encountered the idiocy of motorists yelling obscenities or throwing things at us for no real reason. It's just something we have to put up with, but thankfully, doesn't happen too often. Usually they just let off steam, miss you [if throwing something at you], honk...and go on their way. One learns to ignore it and not let it bother them. But then, on a much more rare occasion you get the guy [and yes, it's almost always us guys]...who take to the next level and though, still probably only wanting to scare us, actually move their cars 'offensively' at us in some way [as the OP's experience was]. This of course becomes very dangerous and I would assume is criminal assault at the very least [I'm not a lawyer so just guessing].

I'm also a motorist as I assume we all are, and I have also observed at times quite dangerous behaviors by my fellow 'cyclists' that often give me pause. Running through stop lights and stop signs are just two of the 'lesser' egregious behaviors I think most of us witness 'all the time' by supposedly more seasoned cyclists. 'Taking the lane', for example, can sometimes be the SAFE thing to do and is good cycling. But I've seen where sometimes 'taking the lane' can be done in 'anger' or a way a cyclist communicates 'rage' back at the motorist [not to say the OP was doing that at all...just a behavior I've seen before]. Rage begets Rage...and when it comes to bicycles vs cars, Let the Goliath have their way I say. Then 'forget about it' as they pass on. Anger has no place in a car or on bicycles IMHO.

Offensive behaviors DO seem to be on the rise in our society [?] though. I sometimes wonder what's going on to cause this [if accurate observation].
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From a non-cycing incident last weekend, I relearned the lesson that there is a whole 'nother level of craziness and aggression out there. Just "walk away" and don't antagonize. Not worth it.

I reported this to the police just so that when that guy goes postal and kills a bunch of people, the police will have some more information for the trial.

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