What's the coolest wildlife you've seen on a ride?
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So... lay still and don't move? Let my heart rate slow down and let the venom slowly circulate through my body until I die?
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The venom doesn't travel through the bloodstream, it travels through the lymphatic system, and as mentioned in the second article below, wrapping and immobilising slows the travel of the venom and reduces damage.
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From the St. Johns Ambulance website:
https://www.stjohn.org.au/images/stjo..._snakebite.pdf
- Wrap limb with a broad bandage starting from the fingers or toes and wrapping toward the heart.
- Apply more bandages or splint to immobilise the patient
- Ensure the patient does not move
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This is also a good article:
https://www.anaesthesia.med.usyd.edu....snakebite.html
"Stop lymphatic spread - bandage firmly, splint and immobilise!
The "pressure-immobilisation" technique is currently recommended by the Australian Resuscitation Council, the Royal Australasian College of Surgeons and the Australian and New Zealand College of Anaesthetists.
The lymphatic system is responsible for systemic spread of most venoms. This can be reduced by the application of a firm bandage (as firm as you would put on a sprained ankle) over a folded pad placed over the bitten area. While firm, it should not be so tight that it stops blood flow to the limb or to congests the veins. Start bandaging directly over the bitten area, ensuing that the pressure over the bite is firm and even. If you have enough bandage you can extend towards more central parts of the body, to delay spread of any venom that has already started to move centrally. A pressure dressing should be applied even if the bite is on the victims trunk or torso.
Immobility is best attained by application of a splint or sling, using a bandage or whatever to hand to absolutely minimise all limb movement, reassurance and immobilisation (eg, putting the patient on a stretcher). Where possible, bring transportation to the patient (rather then vice versa). Don't allow the victim to walk or move a limb. Walking should be prevented."
The "pressure-immobilisation" technique is currently recommended by the Australian Resuscitation Council, the Royal Australasian College of Surgeons and the Australian and New Zealand College of Anaesthetists.
The lymphatic system is responsible for systemic spread of most venoms. This can be reduced by the application of a firm bandage (as firm as you would put on a sprained ankle) over a folded pad placed over the bitten area. While firm, it should not be so tight that it stops blood flow to the limb or to congests the veins. Start bandaging directly over the bitten area, ensuing that the pressure over the bite is firm and even. If you have enough bandage you can extend towards more central parts of the body, to delay spread of any venom that has already started to move centrally. A pressure dressing should be applied even if the bite is on the victims trunk or torso.
Immobility is best attained by application of a splint or sling, using a bandage or whatever to hand to absolutely minimise all limb movement, reassurance and immobilisation (eg, putting the patient on a stretcher). Where possible, bring transportation to the patient (rather then vice versa). Don't allow the victim to walk or move a limb. Walking should be prevented."
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What's the coolest wildlife you've seen on a ride?
Riding Tunnel Hill in Illinois we had a fox trot along ahead of us. The fox would look back and just go along his path.
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Moose, big horn sheep, mountain goats, foxes, elk, marmoset, a variety of non venomous snakes, red tailed hawks, and bald eagles.
I think my favorite was the moose.
I think my favorite was the moose.
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I was ice biking once, riding along the bank on a frozen river, not far from the city. A bobcat ran out onto the ice just a few yards in front of me. He was probably planning to cross to the other side of the river. Then he noticed me there and turned on his tail to run back onto the wooded shore. He slipped and slid on the ice just like a big old house cat sliding on a freshly waxed kitchen floor. I laughed out loud, but it was thrilling to see a bobcat so close.
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My work campus has a large pond near the entrance. Two weeks ago there were six immature and one mature bald eagle at the pond all at one time. Have never seen that many there at once. They were feasting on the plentiful carp.
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Bobcat crossing the road in front of me. Once I raced a coyote. We were going down a pretty steep (paved!) hill. He easily outran me. I was surprised.
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And some very common species: the angry drivers and dead cats/squirrels
Other than that the coolest:
anaconda, iguana, toucan, sloth
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For me it's deer. We live in suburban northern Virginia, two miles outside the beltway. I grew up in Chicago and the 'wildest' animals we saw then were squirrels and sparrows. Here it's heavily wooded and the deer come and go. This morning spinning around a cul-de-sac there were two almost full-sized deer grazing on the front lawn of one of the homes. I still marvel at them. A week ago on a trail I came within 6' of one; apparently they've learned to recognize that us animals walk only in the paved trails so they aren't spooked. Cool!
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One that stands out for me was a 4 point (at least) buck. I've seen bigger and more impressive animals when camping. But this guy is suburbia. 2 or 3 miles to open ground. All houses and the street I was on was the number 1 secret option for congestion on the 405 freeway near Sepulveda pass.
Oh and a bit scary , it was a salmon deer. trotting toward me against traffic. And I had no where to bail out. He turned left jumped a fence and disappeared about 100 feet before we would have met.
Rattlesnakes and idiots who do not recognize them can be interesting too.
Oh and a bit scary , it was a salmon deer. trotting toward me against traffic. And I had no where to bail out. He turned left jumped a fence and disappeared about 100 feet before we would have met.
Rattlesnakes and idiots who do not recognize them can be interesting too.
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ive came a cross many deer but once a whole herd of them, minimum of 15. including 2 large bucks.
Ive also seen some wild turkeys and a snapping turtle. Turkeys were about 25 ft away from the trail and the snapping turtle was inches away from my bike and my foot.
Ive also seen some wild turkeys and a snapping turtle. Turkeys were about 25 ft away from the trail and the snapping turtle was inches away from my bike and my foot.
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The weekend before last riding on the Western Maryland Rail Trail I saw about a dozen deer, nothing unusual.
Then about 5 miles from my car I saw a slow moving animal on the trail, I thought it was a very large skunk at first. As I got closer I realized it was a porcupine- got within 10 feet of it, and it was definitely not afraid.
Then about 5 miles from my car I saw a slow moving animal on the trail, I thought it was a very large skunk at first. As I got closer I realized it was a porcupine- got within 10 feet of it, and it was definitely not afraid.
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I see tortoises every time I'm out.
I've seen turkeys on 3 of my last 4 rides.
I see hawks quite often but never am fast enough to get a picture.
I've seen turkeys on 3 of my last 4 rides.
I see hawks quite often but never am fast enough to get a picture.
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Saw rats in the street a couple of times when I was an everyday bike commuter in Atlanta a quarter century ago.
Hawks are pretty common in the 'burbs of Indy.
Hawks are pretty common in the 'burbs of Indy.
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Couple of weeks ago a rabbit ran down the road with me for a bit. Me on the road, it on the side in the ditches. Probably shadowed me for about 20 yards. Thought I would have a cool story for the wife when I got back home. didn't think that about 15 minutes later I would run up on a buck and 4 does. they were on the other side of a barbwire fence in a farmers field. They ran about 35 yards beside me just keeping pace. told the wife I had a zen ride that day.
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The hawks are almost common where I ride, soaring over the undeveloped dry grassland on the other side of the road looking for mice, rats, and ground squirrels. I've seen them plunge and seen what they dropped earlier, but not watched them catch the prey yet. My favorite sighting was seeing a pheasant take wing from a dry creek bed. I grew up in wetter climates and never quite internalized that pheasants were real living creatures instead of taxidermic statues.
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We just saw a hawk fly right over our heads with a snake in it's talons. I was like "wow, do you see that?" and my Wife was like "Oh crap, I hope it does not drop the snake on me!".
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I see deer frequently, and have had 2 jump in front of me about 3 weeks ago. (Had a friend sustain a broken hip when training on a tri bike after being attacked by a deer.) I've also seen gators, wild pigs, gopher turtle, and several snakes. About 3 months ago I was starting to pass a jogger on a MUP when a snake crossed in front of him...the jogger jumped to his left and I nearly hit him.