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    what motivates you more someone behind or someone in front

    this weekend I had someone behind me and it kind of made me work harder, not that I didn't want to get passed but I didn't want to get passed.

    after a while though, on a brief break in cadence to drink, she passed me, then the motivation was to be sure she didn't put any distance on me.

    both situations were fun and I kind of found them both motivating to keep my performance up. but because when I was in the lead I think I felt more motivated because of the unknown factor.
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    Somebody in front of me who is going slower.

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    I'm 65, they can do what they want , my pace is a personal choice .
    [thousands of miles of bike tours , rarely over 10 mph.
    unless down hill or a gale tailwind.]

    say something , I'll hold my line , and they/you can go around .


    I do the same , usually they're just walking and I ring my Bell and they look around (on the MUP)
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    I tend to pace myself by whoever is in front.
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    Behind me. I find it more gratifying to drop somebody trying to keep up with me than to catch somebody out front.

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    I'm 15 years younger than Bob but ride barely faster (maybe 12 - 13 mph). In roughly 5,000 miles I have never been passed by another cyclist. I've passed one. My motivation is the desire to get somewhere.
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    Definitely the rabbit out in front, especially a fast one, is more motivating for me. When someone's behind me I even root for them sometimes, just hoping they can pass and be the rabbit.

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    Since I usually rode with riders better than I was someone in front. Knowing that if you lose the wheel you are unlikely to catch it again and will have to work all the harder to get there is true motivation.

    In front I am far from motivated to work harder. I'd rather give a wheel people can keep. And if someone can come up from behind and pass me then I get a bit of a break while they do the work.
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    Hi,

    I pass people who are slower. I get passed by people who are faster.

    I don't make a point of trying to pass people going about
    my speed, I avoid it. Some people are cool about it.

    A while back i got passed by a guy, I chased him for about 3 miles and
    then passed him as he was going pretty slow around a roundabout.
    4 miles later he passed me again and I chased him for another 3 miles.

    Recently heading towards a roundabout another cyclist went round
    before I got there and needless to say I wanted to give chase, as
    you do, (unless they are too fast). I notice he's going faster than
    me on the flat but I'm catching him on all the inclines and I catch
    him up. I just settled in behind him, he was going fast enough.

    Thing is as he approached a very dodgy right turn in the middle
    of a left bend he had a good look around and realised I was there.
    I think, but I'm not sure, he knew I'd caught him up from however
    far back from the roundabout but the personal interchange was
    very friendly, I think he new I avoided trying to pointlessly pass.

    rgds, sreten.

    I'm very unaware of riders coming up behind me, how can you be ?
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    I look straight down at my front tire when I ride.

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    Definitely the person in front. If I can catch up, maybe I can say hello and get a little conversation going. A person behind doesn't motivate me to go fast at all. I might even slack off a bit to let them catch up and then I can say hello.

    Very rare to get any conversation, despite all my efforts! One fellow though pulled up alongside - he was a few days out of Boston, on his way to Montana! We had a nice chat for a few miles!

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    I was coming through my tunnel and my eyes were tearing up. I made the mistake of wiping them with my gloved hand and pulled the contact over to the corner of my eye. As I was exiting the tunnel with one eye shut, I can hear the folks taking a break just outside comment about my 2 "headlights" (they are just flashlights and weak ones at that.) I exited the tunnel and said, yeah, but they don't do a lick of good when you've only got 1 contact in your eye.

    I gabbed with them for a short term. They were on their way back from riding to the end of the trail, 34 miles up and we were sitting at their final 6 miles. A guy and his father (I think.) I was saying how I was new to riding and they were telling me to not give up and keep with it. He asked me, How old do you think he is? as he motioned to the, excuse me but there's no other way to describe him, old man. He was 79 years old.

    So while I finalized my contact repositioning they took off through the tunnel. On the other side they pulled over for some reason and I waved as I went by. Few hundred yards down and they come cruising by. I followed the best I could on my junk Walmart mountain bike but they pulled away from me. 79 years old, smoked me like I was standing still.

    I tried to keep them in my sights for the 6 miles back and did. At that time, 16-17 mph was really pushing it for me for that entire length of time. I enjoyed pushing harder to keep them in sight and now today a few weeks later, I'm riding at that speed pretty much all the time.

    I don't want to slow you up so if you come up behind me, I'm more than happy to have you pass me by. But it will motivate me to push harder to then stay close behind you. I'm not very fast and a full suspension heavy Walmart mountain bike isn't going to win any races, but I definitely see the benefit to having someone pass me by then try to keep up with them up ahead a little bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rumrunn6 View Post
    this weekend I had someone behind me and it kind of made me work harder, not that I didn't want to get passed but I didn't want to get passed.

    after a while though, on a brief break in cadence to drink, she passed me, then the motivation was to be sure she didn't put any distance on me.

    both situations were fun and I kind of found them both motivating to keep my performance up. but because when I was in the lead I think I felt more motivated because of the unknown factor.
    It doesn't really matter as long as they are going as fast or faster than you. This weekend I went out, planning to take it easy. At some point I did 2 loops around a busy trail with bikers and runners. It only took a quarter of a loop before I overtook a group of riders and then one passed me back. So that was the time to throw the take it easy part out of the window and I started following him at a couple bike lengths distance. After a couple of minutes he slowed down and I went by, when passing he even apologized for haven overtaken me . So then I "had" to keep going at the same pace, and later when I noticed he was right in my draft I "had" to climb the little hill at the same speed we were doing on the flat. So that was the end of my companion, but by then I was in the zone and ended up doing the 2 laps at a much faster tempo than planned. It is all in good fun, on faster group rides the motivation definitely comes from following people that are in front (also because I am rarely the one that is in front and leaves all others behind )

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    People in front no doubt.

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    A young female cyclist with a nice posterior....I can draft behind her and admire the view
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    Quote Originally Posted by TiBikeGuy View Post
    A young female cyclist with a nice posterior....I can draft behind her and admire the view
    This can also motivate you to slow down as well. I've never come across it as she passed us because I was with my daughter riding about 7 mph (told my daughter we had to speed up, LOL.) My coworker though said he slowed down to about 10 mph for about 5 miles because he caught up to a couple riding together in front of him. Said he felt like a stalker, but he doesn't like to pass people anyways no matter if it's a nice posterior in front or not.

    Out in the middle of nowhere I don't really see a whole lot of people anyways, "nice posterior" or not. It's usually me, the old guy on the road bike, the older couple who walk every day, and the guy on the recumbent and that's all I generally see in 12-20 miles of riding.
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    It seems like I am chasing all the girls of late and I am exceptionally fond of chasing my wife although she appreciates and enjoys drafting behind me... she has been recovering from whooping cough and sometime I have to give her a little push on hills.

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