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Old 03-10-05, 05:13 PM   #1
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Hit car... again!

Today was base milage training, my usual 30 mile ride to a little bagel shop in downtown Riverside, California from my school. It is relativly flat and great to have a nice areobic morning ride or to hammer if you please. Today I was doing about 21 MPH after I got warm and I was feeling great.

About 28 miles in I pased the bike shop which symbolizes the last 3 miles of my ride. I decided to lay the hammer down and go for it all the way to my car... I never made it.

I was cruising down Hole Ave approximatly 26 MPH in the drops when all the sudden I see a car swerve from the far lane cutting off two cars to make a right. Well the car swerved right in front of me and decided to stop and not make the turn. I was going so fast that I had no where to go. I was between the car and the 6 inch curb, the car had actually pined me in. Luckly he did not push me into the curb or bad things would have happened. Being 6'6" my handlebars were in perfect line with his mirror. I hit the guys mirror at over 24 MPH, hit so hard that it snapped the mirror and trim off the base and sent it flying about 20 feet in front of the car. I on instint leaned in, landing on the hood of the car, still clipped into the bike. Of course that put a huge dent in the guys hood. I got up looked at the driver who was shocked and yelled something like wtf are you doing.

I recieved almost no physical injury, a cut above my knee on my calf, some small cuts on my lower left leg and a nasty bruise from where the handle bar hit my left leg after twisting. I right away noticed that my front wheel was serverly out of true and the shifter had been pushed to the right from the impact, the little chrome cap and broken in 3 peices. I got on my cell phone and called 911, the police and EMS came and checked me out. I had pain in my left wrist where it got pinned between the handlebar and the car along with a little pain above my knee. EMS cleared me a police took a report. I rode 300 feet back to the LBS where they fixed the bike no charge.

I really hate drivers who are total iodits. I was doing everything right, riding in the bike lane, stopping for controlled intersections, etc. The driver was just being impacient and of course I took the beating for it. The police found the driver at fault. I lost my favorite pair of bib shorts, PI ultrasensor 2005 bibs and the little chrome cap on the shifter. They guy did not want to pay for the shorts though...

I guess this is what happens when people are iodits and can not follow the rules of the road. At the LBS they wanted to know when I needed the bike back... typical cyclist answer... ASAP... I do not want to miss my ride tonight!
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Old 03-10-05, 05:24 PM   #2
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I'll classify this down to motorist idiotness. I hope you ****ed up his car real good, and i'm glad you weren't seriously injured.
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Old 03-10-05, 05:24 PM   #3
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Glad you're alright.

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Old 03-10-05, 05:28 PM   #4
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Yeah, I had my first incident yesterday. Trundling up the hill towards home when this sheila starts to pull out. I was abeam her front fender when she yells out "what do you think you're doing"? I pedalled a bit harder thinking she'd stop but she almost nudged me off the bike on purpose. I gave her the bird and yelled a salient and highly derogatory remark. She then started honking like the idiot she was. Next she drives passed me, pulls up and starts to get out of her car. Hence the second slightly more derogatory possibly inflammatory comment. She gets back in and starts honking again. I'm half a block away by this time and she's still honking.

Next she drives passed with a "bad" look on her face. I smiled, said "stupid b17ch", gave her the bird. She nearly went up on the kurb. She starts honking again.

Fair suck of the sav, it really scared me though. I never realised that "we" riders copped the rough end of the pineapple so often.
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Old 03-10-05, 05:29 PM   #5
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get a good lawyer
you'll get a new bicycle
insurance will pay

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Old 03-10-05, 05:35 PM   #6
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I do not want a new bike... I like my bike

It could have been worse, after my first accident when I was hit by a car I was off to the ER and off the bike for some time. The stupid driver would have probably ran over the bike if I would have fallen into the curb...

I guess we learn to anticipate what drivers are going to do, sometimes it works, sometimes it does not...
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I'm not saying that you should go after the driver to punish him, but you need to be compensated for your losses, a new shifter and new shorts. Also your LBS needs to be compensated for their repair time. I know they are being cool and doing you a favor, but you should definitely have gotten this guys insurance info. Hopefully it is on the police report. This guy probably thinks he did nothing wrong, but maybe when his rates go up he'll be more careful in the future.
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I agree this guy needs to pay for the shifter, the shorts, the shops time, and your back pain that you will have for life ok maybe that is pushing it. But seriously if you have insurance on a car or your apartment or something your insurance company should be willing to help you get these claims paid for by this guy. Don't let it drop.
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File a claim with his insurance company. Itemize your damaged goods and they will pay for everything. Simple.
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Old 03-10-05, 07:19 PM   #10
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Don't go up against the driver's insurance company on your own. You will get nothing but frustration if you go that route. You need legal assistance if you're going to pursue a claim.
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Take your bike back to the shop and have them look it over from front to back and top to bottom. Have them document every minor problem they can find with it that may have resulted from the accident. Since this is your training and racing bike you don't want to be hauling a$$ in the next criterium and have something fall off on you. I'm glad to hear you didn't get messed up any more than you did. Take it easy on the bike for a day or two - you body will need time to adjust. It's not used to this type of "training"

P.S. You should probably replace your helmet as well.
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I actually did not hit my head so my helmet should be fine.
The only thing that is bothering me now is my wrist, as in reduced power and pain in it right now. I went out riding tonight and I could not shift into the big ring from the hoods without pain. My body is definitly not used to this kind of pain. I will see how it is doing before tomarrows interval session and guage it there. Leg wise I am feeling fine which is the important part...

I am going to have the bike checked tomarrow morning and make sure everything is fine, I was hauling a$$ tonight and noticed a little clicking in the back, more likely a small deraileur adjustment but I will have the whole thing checked...

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Make sure you get a written estimate of all the problems with your bike for the future.. If you decide to pursue legal action to get your items replaced there are bike specific lawyers in Competitor magazine.. Sometimes they can write a letter for you to get the insurance company to pony up some money to pay for your repairs.. Hopefully you got a police report..
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You can still like your bike and have a new one too.
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Not to defend drivers but I'm not sure that dragging this butthole to
court is the right thing to do.
Now I'm not saying you shouldn't be paid for replacement parts
(wheel, shifter etc.) just don't take it to court if you don't have to.
I'm guessing since he was cited, and there is a police report his insurance
company will be glad to pay expenses to avoid litigation (which he
would lose).
Be sure to have your wrist checked out, paramedics might not have
diagnosed cracked wrist.
if you do get an offer from his insurance company make sure you have
an attorney go over any paperwork they will send accompanying
the payment, don't want to be signing away any future (real)
claims.

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Not to defend drivers but I'm not sure that dragging this butthole to
court is the right thing to do.
Now I'm not saying you shouldn't be paid for replacement parts
(wheel, shifter etc.) just don't take it to court if you don't have to.
I'm guessing since he was cited, and there is a police report his insurance
company will be glad to pay expenses to avoid litigation (which he
would lose).
Be sure to have your wrist checked out, paramedics might not have
diagnosed cracked wrist.
if you do get an offer from his insurance company make sure you have
an attorney go over any paperwork they will send accompanying
the payment, don't want to be signing away any future (real)
claims.

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He doesn't have to drag him into court. The mere threat of it will make the drivers insurance company pony up faster and with more $$$. While this isn't payday, you do deserve compentaion for damaged equipment, injuries, and pain and suffering. The costs are minimal for the insurance company when a bike is involved and they'll make it up by rasing this bozo's rates. Which he very much seems to deserve.
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How rude some people are. Sorry for the stupidity of some people. Glad to hear nothing major was wrong with you.
Cars scare me sometimes too, some people think they own the road.
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Don't go up against the driver's insurance company on your own. You will get nothing but frustration if you go that route. You need legal assistance if you're going to pursue a claim.

I know that all claims are different, but I recently settled with the insurance company of a woman who hit me with her car and it was actually a fairly easy process. My claim was pretty black and white though: she was totally at fault and luckily for me, her story and my story matched. Only that she insisted that I was "speeding" (yeah right, on a mountain bike with a 44-tooth chainring on a level surface). The hard part of the whole claim process was that I knew they would make a total low-ball offer which I declined, and had to stick to my guns as to why I'm claiming my amount. As long as you have everything documented and have reasonable justifications for what you're claiming, there is no need for an attorney. Also, be prepared for a long process. My claim took 5 months to settle, but I'm satisfied with the results.
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He doesn't have to drag him into court.
that was my point exactly.
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just don't take it to court if you don't have to.
Given the circumstances, the police report etc. I would venture
to say the Insurance co will be happy to settle out of court.

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I was hit by a car and the NEXT morning, their insurance company was calling me! They said they would pay for everything just send them the bill. I actually went into my LBS thinking that I could manipulate the system and get a few upgrades but they wouldnt' do it for me. Anyway, you need to contact that guys insurance company. They will bend over backwards for you to settle the claim very quickly so that it doesn't get messy with hospital bills and lawyers that may be on the horizon. Have your bike shop put together an estimate and send it to the guy's insurance company and you'll have a check in a few days.

The irony is that she was leaving church after choir practice.

*That was my experience anyway. Sounds like it could be a bit more complicated depending on who you're dealing with.
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that was my point exactly.
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Oops! I misread you. Apologies.
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The irony is that she was leaving church after choir practice.
Worst time to bike in my neigborhood is Sunday morning. So many churches around here that everyone on the road is either full of the light of the Lord or wants to be closer to their God. Not safe.

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Glad to hear that you're mostly okay. Get that wrist checked and have the LBS document every damage to your bike.

And thank you for the cautionary tale. I have a similar route that I was just on this morning. When I come back into town, it's on a long, straight four-lane avenue and the morning commute is coagulating. It's probably not the best place for a mini-TT even if I am following all the traffic laws: keep the eyes up and a finger on the brake lever.
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I was hit by a car and the NEXT morning, their insurance company was calling me!

Not to burst your bubble but by law. their claims adjuster is supposed to contact you within 48 hours of their being notified of an accident. At least that's how it is here in CA. However it still sounds like they were more on top of it than the law mandates.
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Get the wrist checked out I walked around on a broken foot for 3 days before my wife made me go in and get it checked out. I figured that I could still walk on it if I twisted my foot a certain way so it must not be broken. Anyway, often times adrenalin hides pain in injuries as well so the paramedics may not have caught anything. It also makes a stronger case if you don't wait until you find it is not healing like it should to get in and get a complete diagnosis.
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