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Old 12-07-13, 03:43 AM   #1
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full face bicycle helmet with face shield?

hey, i just got a motorcycle helmet to use on my bicycle since it's full-face and has a wind shield that i can pull down, good for cold weather. however i think it's a little too big to use on a bike, i would rather get a full face bicycle helmet with a drop down face shield, but i haven't seen any that have that, that area seems to be open and they expect you to use goggles instead.

i'm referring to the style of helmet like the 661 mountain bike lineup: the rage, comp....

does anyone know of helmets like this with face shields available?
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Old 12-07-13, 10:22 AM   #2
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There are DH full face bicycle helmets . if they dont do all the accessorizing things for you, why not DIY?
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Giro Air Attack Shield helmet:
http://www.universalcycles.com/shopp...0&category=444

It may not be what you're looking for but in reality, I've used a snow-mobile helmet in the winter so...

EDIT: Here's a helmet from Canadian Tire with a full shield.
http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/vc...l#.UqxvntJ4yVo

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Old 12-08-13, 05:52 AM   #4
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There are DH full face bicycle helmets . if they dont do all the accessorizing things for you, why not DIY?
well, i don't know how to do it myself, and i don't think it's so easy to do anyway, bending and fitting a plastic shield perfectly to seamlessly fit into an open full faced helmet that wasn't even meant for it, that doesn't have the screws or whatever to attach the piece.. it sounds very problematic..

unfortunately it really doesn't seem like this sort of thing exists, the closest idea ive seen is that for a bicycle ruroc ski helmet... for over $300... not so appealing then

all the smaller shaped full face helmets for cycling or snowmobile are missing the face shield, as you're expected to wear goggles, which is itself defeating the purpose of being able to prevent wind from hitting your face, or at least definitely insufficient for that purpose

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IF you need something for cold weather, just use a regular bicycle helmet, wear a full-head balaclava (or ski mask) under it, and use a pair of glasses to keep the cold air out of your eyes (sunglasses or safety glasses if you want clear lenses).
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IF you need something for cold weather, just use a regular bicycle helmet, wear a full-head balaclava (or ski mask) under it, and use a pair of glasses to keep the cold air out of your eyes (sunglasses or safety glasses if you want clear lenses).
good idea, the problem here is that your warmth is limited by the fabric, which is also right up against your face, with a full face mask with a shield the wind is entirely blocked from hitting your face or any sort of material meant to dampen the cold or wind, plus it also gets very moist and heated where your mouth is since you're breathing there, which gets uncomfortable quickly

it seems the closest thing to what i'm looking for so far is a full face hang gliding helmet

http://www.bozemanparagliding.com/st...lacklarge2.jpg

like a motorcycle helmet, but lightweight, and simply not as bulky

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good idea, the problem here is that your warmth is limited by the fabric, which is also right up against your face, with a full face mask with a shield the wind is entirely blocked from hitting your face or any sort of material meant to dampen the cold or wind, plus it also gets very moist and heated where your mouth is since you're breathing there, which gets uncomfortable quickly

it seems the closest thing to what i'm looking for so far is a full face hang gliding helmet

http://www.bozemanparagliding.com/st...lacklarge2.jpg

like a motorcycle helmet, but lightweight, and simply not as bulky
If you wear a full face helmet, how are you going to deal with the problem of fogging up the faceshield when you start breathing heavily after a few miles of riding? A basic bike helment with a ski-type balaclava would let you breath without fogging up a shield (the glasses shouldn't be effected). Most balaclavas are also s-t-r-e-t-c-h-y enough to pull down under you chin if you get too warm, and the stretchiness also prevents ice from forming around your mouth. I've also never had the condensation on a balaclava get so thick that it restricted my breathing.
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I thought I posted this before, but I can't find it, so here goes again:

What I did when I bicycle-commuted year-around in Michigan was to modify a standard bike helmet. I zip-tied a motorcycle face shield to the front, then trimmed it straight across at a level just below the tip of my nose. I could tip my head down for almost full protection from the wind, and by breathing out and down through my mouth, the shield didn't fog or ice up. I taped up all the vents along the front of the helmet, but I left a few in back open.

When the temps went below zero (F) I used a neoprene face mask that had the mouth area cut out. Mostly to keep my chin warm.
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Has anybody tried modding a cheap, safety face mask? Ah, maybe too problematic...
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I tried putting a facemask on a helmet and fogging was definitely an issue even when breathing down out of my mouth. Plus, I always had cold drafts across my face that were very uncomfortable. I now use a 3 hole stocking cap with ski goggles when it gets really cold.
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A thin polypropylene balaclava, the traditional style, with full face opening, not one of those ski mask types or the ones with mouth/nose covering. Those get too hot and don't offer any adjustment to mitigate, works very well for me. I have two weights, actually, but neither are thick. Like Skidder said, they're stretchy so you can cover up nose when cold, and pull down to chin when hot.

When the balaclava is fitted under my Dux Helm with the visor extended, it's quite comfy, very effective, and easy to use in all kinds of situations.
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I've seen ski helmets with a built-in visor but they are needlessly expensive. I've been using my regular ski helmet and goggles and bandana.
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Will a La cross Helmet work?
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full face bicycle helmet with face shield?

Ski helmet?
http://www.osbeusa.com/categories/Ski-Helmets/
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If you wear a full face helmet, how are you going to deal with the problem of fogging up the faceshield when you start breathing heavily after a few miles of riding? A basic bike helment with a ski-type balaclava would let you breath without fogging up a shield (the glasses shouldn't be effected). Most balaclavas are also s-t-r-e-t-c-h-y enough to pull down under you chin if you get too warm, and the stretchiness also prevents ice from forming around your mouth. I've also never had the condensation on a balaclava get so thick that it restricted my breathing.
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A motorcycle helmet doesn't get to fogged up because you are traveling fast so the vents work. I'm surprised the OP did not realize this since he owns a motoryccle helmet?
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My first impression - and correct me if I'm wrong - is that those who think a full face mask would work in a cold climate don't have a lot of personal experience with it and have not actually spoken with experienced cold climate cyclists.

I live in a very cold snowy place where people ride their bikes all winter. I'm talking sub zero, a lot sub zero (F). I've never, ever seen anyone wear a full face mask on a bike. Of course the snow mobilers use full face masks, but many of them have certain adaptations to avoid fogging due to heavy breathing during exertion. I can't imagine how a full face mask would work with bicycling at cold temperatures. It will fog up early and often.

Get yourself whatever weight of synthetic balaclava you need to keep warm and some high quality, fog resistant ski goggles. If fabric balaclava doesn't work, use a thin neoprene one - very common among cold weather alpine skiers - or a neoprene half face mask with nose and mouth openings if the balaclava doesn't provide that.

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Hockey helmet?

I think a hockey helmet is just what the OP is looking for in this cold winter. In my opinion, it looks safer than a regular bicycle helmet since it won't fall to pieces upon impact. I've never really bought into the "exploading helmet" construction of today's bike helmets.

These NHL players take hits just as hard as a cyclist and when was the last time you heard of a player dying from hiting his head on the ice?
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These NHL players take hits just as hard as a cyclist and when was the last time you heard of a player dying from hiting his head on the ice?
They may not be dying but they sure get concussed easily. Hockey helmets absorb far less impact than bike helmets. They're really light but they hold together because of the hard plastic shell. My current hockey helmet has less than 3/8" of styrofoam inside it and a few soft bits to aid with comfort.

Good enough to run into other humans, sometimes, but hit the ice, boards or glass head on at speed and you'll scramble your brains every time. Scares me to think what a lamp post, curb or part of a vehicle would do to your head in a hockey helmet, might as well ride around with Tupperware on your head if you ask me.

That being said the TS has clearly stated he wants something to shield his face from the cold, I don't see how a hockey helmet or bike helmet with a visor would do what he wants.

Just get a neck warmer or balaclava with mouth and nose holes and a pair of ski goggles. I rode as a messenger in Canada for years and in the real cold that's what works.
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My first impression - and correct me if I'm wrong - is that those who think a full face mask would work in a cold climate don't have a lot of personal experience with it and have not actually spoken with experienced cold climate cyclists.

I live in a very cold snowy place where people ride their bikes all winter. I'm talking sub zero, a lot sub zero (F). I've never, ever seen anyone wear a full face mask on a bike. Of course the snow mobilers use full face masks, but many of them have certain adaptations to avoid fogging due to heavy breathing during exertion. I can't imagine how a full face mask would work with bicycling at cold temperatures. It will fog up early and often.

Get yourself whatever weight of synthetic balaclava you need to keep warm and some high quality, fog resistant ski goggles. If fabric balaclava doesn't work, use a thin neoprene one - very common among cold weather alpine skiers - or a neoprene half face mask with nose and mouth openings if the balaclava doesn't provide that.
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being able to block the cold air/wind before it hits your face or any material covering your face is a big deal, this is one reason why motorcycle helmets have face shields, rather than them just using goggles with a full face helmet, a balacava under the face shield is even better of course, i simply don't like covering my mouth and nose with the balacava since it gets moist and hot in front of my mouth instantly.. to prevent fogging you can simply use fog-x or some other product meant to prevent fog build up, on the outside of the shield you can use rain-x to repel water,

anyway, this is what i ended up doing...



i tried forming and fitting a 1/8" thick lexan polycarbonate sheet and failed as quickly overheating the sheet caused bubbling in the material which ruined the transparency, so i will be attempting with a 1/16" sheet now, which should be easier to bend without causing the same problem
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i tried forming and fitting a 1/8" thick lexan polycarbonate sheet and failed as quickly overheating the sheet caused bubbling in the material which ruined the transparency, so i will be attempting with a 1/16" sheet now, which should be easier to bend without causing the same problem
Just heat it slowly and evenly with a heat gun, both sides, and it will bend easily without bubbling. I apply slight pressure while heating to get a smooth bend without it becoming actually pliable. It's been on my to-do list to fashion something similar to that hockey helmet shown earlier in the thread, except that I'd use a strip of velcro to fasten it and possibly some weather-stripping foam on top.

Caution: if you're heating it enough to bubble you should also be concerned with releasing vapors, which are flammable as well as toxic.

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It's been on my to-do list to fashion something similar to that hockey helmet shown earlier in the thread.
Please don't use a hockey helmet for cycling.
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