Why does the Surly Ogre have cable-actuated disc brakes?
08-28-14, 06:58 AM
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Yes, as I thought. Pure projection on your part.
08-28-14, 07:00 AM
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As for the car analogy, a little off base. The cable actuated "emergency" brake system is a mechanically actuated redundant braking system to be used should your hydraulic system fail on your car. It serves as a parking brake because that is what people think of it as now, but it is simply a redundant system for stopping in the event the main system fails.
Kinda the same thing in bikes since the brake systems are independent and it would require some serious effort to damage both to the point of failure at the same time.
08-28-14, 07:03 AM
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You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means
(ok you used it once, but the opportunity was too good to miss)
You mixed projecting and clarifying. What you should have said is: "Yes, as I thought, pure clarifying on your part"
An easy mistake to make, no biggie
(ok you used it once, but the opportunity was too good to miss)
You mixed projecting and clarifying. What you should have said is: "Yes, as I thought, pure clarifying on your part"
An easy mistake to make, no biggie
08-28-14, 07:18 AM
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And secondly, the notion, that hydraulic brakes are akin to electronic shifting and whatnot, and that because of your "hints", as if the rest of us are surprised that spokes and such is a weak link. But again, I get it: Your "every day life" consist of riding around in colder air than -22f, needing an arctic expedition bike, and you think that because a car has a parking brake, that that is intended for "redundancy". Yes, I am aware that Americans calls it an "emergency brake", but there's a reason that more and more cars are moving to electronic parking brakes - which doesn't even work when moving.
(ok you used it once, but the opportunity was too good to miss)
You mixed projecting and clarifying. What you should have said is: "Yes, as I thought, pure clarifying on your part"
An easy mistake to make, no biggie
An easy mistake to make, no biggie
08-28-14, 07:49 AM
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You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means
(ok you used it once, but the opportunity was too good to miss)
You mixed projecting and clarifying. What you should have said is: "Yes, as I thought, pure clarifying on your part"
An easy mistake to make, no biggie
(ok you used it once, but the opportunity was too good to miss)
You mixed projecting and clarifying. What you should have said is: "Yes, as I thought, pure clarifying on your part"
An easy mistake to make, no biggie
08-28-14, 07:53 AM
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As mentioned earlier cables and housings are relatively plentiful everywhere and even a simple LBS will have them
and that because of your "hints", as if the rest of us are surprised that spokes and such is a weak link.
But again, I get it: Your "every day life" consist of riding around in colder air than -22f, needing an arctic expedition bike,
and you think that because a car has a parking brake, that that is intended for "redundancy". Yes, I am aware that Americans calls it an "emergency brake", but there's a reason that more and more cars are moving to electronic parking brakes - which doesn't even work when moving.
No, I should have said: Yes, as I thought, argumentative, just for the sake of it, as well as devoid of a sense of reality.
08-28-14, 08:48 AM
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I like my BB7's...
But then I run Drifters, and Interupters...
But then I run Drifters, and Interupters...
08-28-14, 11:42 AM
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Field serviceability. Hydros are great but if you're touring (especially off-road) and something does go wrong it would be much easier to reach into your seatpack and grab a 5mm and new cable than dealing with a fluid based setup.
08-28-14, 03:34 PM
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08-28-14, 04:07 PM
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[h=2]Why does the Surly Ogre have cable-actuated disc brakes?[/h]
I've been out of bicycling for a while. Back now and catching up on the developments over the past 15 years.
Disc brakes are awesome. I picked up a 2013 Scott Scale (29in mtn bike) and simply love the hydraulic disc brakes.
I think I also want a touring/adventure/commuting type bike. The Surly Ogre seems very, very cool.
The specs of the Ogre have me scratching my head. When shopping for my mtn bike, every bike shop told me that hydraulic disc brakes are the way to go. At about the $700/800 price point and above, all the bikes I looked at had hydraulic disc brakes.
Yet the Surly, at the $1,500 price point has cable disc brakes. Why is that? What am I missing here?
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Disc brakes are awesome. I picked up a 2013 Scott Scale (29in mtn bike) and simply love the hydraulic disc brakes.
I think I also want a touring/adventure/commuting type bike. The Surly Ogre seems very, very cool.
The specs of the Ogre have me scratching my head. When shopping for my mtn bike, every bike shop told me that hydraulic disc brakes are the way to go. At about the $700/800 price point and above, all the bikes I looked at had hydraulic disc brakes.
Yet the Surly, at the $1,500 price point has cable disc brakes. Why is that? What am I missing here?
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08-28-14, 05:40 PM
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There's an outside chance you got two bad calipers,but it sounds like something wasn't done right during the replacement.
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Are you sure the current seeping isn't just excess left over from the bleed? If you carefully clean it,does it come back? There's no reason that the mounting location should cause a leak.
There's an outside chance you got two bad calipers,but it sounds like something wasn't done right during the replacement.
There's an outside chance you got two bad calipers,but it sounds like something wasn't done right during the replacement.
08-28-14, 08:41 PM
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I've been out of bicycling for a while. Back now and catching up on the developments over the past 15 years.
Disc brakes are awesome. I picked up a 2013 Scott Scale (29in mtn bike) and simply love the hydraulic disc brakes.
I think I also want a touring/adventure/commuting type bike. The Surly Ogre seems very, very cool.
The specs of the Ogre have me scratching my head. When shopping for my mtn bike, every bike shop told me that hydraulic disc brakes are the way to go. At about the $700/800 price point and above, all the bikes I looked at had hydraulic disc brakes.
Yet the Surly, at the $1,500 price point has cable disc brakes. Why is that? What am I missing here?
Ogre | Bikes | Surly Bikes
Disc brakes are awesome. I picked up a 2013 Scott Scale (29in mtn bike) and simply love the hydraulic disc brakes.
I think I also want a touring/adventure/commuting type bike. The Surly Ogre seems very, very cool.
The specs of the Ogre have me scratching my head. When shopping for my mtn bike, every bike shop told me that hydraulic disc brakes are the way to go. At about the $700/800 price point and above, all the bikes I looked at had hydraulic disc brakes.
Yet the Surly, at the $1,500 price point has cable disc brakes. Why is that? What am I missing here?
Ogre | Bikes | Surly Bikes
08-29-14, 01:44 PM
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