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Spire 05-24-02 06:35 AM

slipstream etiquette
 
Hey everbody,
This is what happened last night : Along the lachine canal bike path, there was about a 40 gusting to 60 km/h headwind (according to environment Canada) and a guy passed me, I passed him back a few minutes later, shortly after that he was sucking my back tire and continued to do so for a minimum of 4 km until I took the road and he continued on the bike path.

It seems to me that what he did was not very polite; he could have atleast offered to switch at some point.

Am I being oversensitive on this or am I right that what he did was wrong?

:beer:

orguasch 05-24-02 06:56 AM

Spire,
maybe he's just afraid that to alternate with you or he doesn't know a thing about that, alternating in pacing

Allister 05-24-02 06:58 AM

I don't really mind strangers drafting off me, but I do try and drop them. For really persistent drafters, and if I'm not in a generous mood, I slow waaay down until they get the point.

I often play 'tow barge' for people I know.

In the end, it doesn't slow you down any more than if they were't there. If they do take a turn in front it's a bonus.

Rich Clark 05-24-02 07:55 AM

I hate being drafted on a solo ride, which is all of my rides, so I hate being drafted, period.

I immediately wave them around. If they won't go (rare), I stick out my hand in a stop signal and yell "stopping now!" And then I do.

I'm more than happy to slack off for 30 seconds to let a passing rider get ahead. I'm not interested in racing anybody. Except buses.

Occasionally someone will get on my wheel, I'll wave him around, he'll go, I'll let him get ahead, then when I resume my pace I find he's slowed down and I catch him again. This time when I pass I simply say "hi, there; please stay off my wheel, I'm riding solo today."

RichC

RainmanP 05-24-02 08:32 AM

At this point in my growth as a cyclist I would be flattered if someone wanted to sit on my wheel. Everyone I know seems to be a lot faster or a lot slower.

RonH 05-24-02 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by RainmanP
At this point in my growth as a cyclist I would be flattered if someone wanted to sit on my wheel. Everyone I know seems to be a lot faster or a lot slower.
Ditto for me!

Spire 05-24-02 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by RainmanP
At this point in my growth as a cyclist I would be flattered if someone wanted to sit on my wheel. Everyone I know seems to be a lot faster or a lot slower.
I cam to this same realization this morning :D

jmlee 05-24-02 09:17 AM

Maybe you should have pulled out to the left to signal that your turn at the front was over. This is the normal routine for a paceline--the front rider determines when her/his turn is over. He may well have recognized the signal. You could have supplemented it with a friendly, "your turn." My guess is he would have obliged.

In any case, I don't think should be too hard on the guy without having made a clear signal or directly asked. Heck, he might have been wondering the whole time who the superman was in front of him who liked to take such long pulls.

Cheers,
Jamie

joeprim 05-24-02 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jmlee
Maybe you should have pulled out to the left to signal that your turn at the front was over. This is the normal routine for a paceline--the front rider determines when her/his turn is over. He may well have recognized the signal. You could have supplemented it with a friendly, "your turn." My guess is he would have obliged.

In any case, I don't think should be too hard on the guy without having made a clear signal or directly asked. Heck, he might have been wondering the whole time who the superman was in front of him who liked to take such long pulls.

Cheers,
Jamie

I agree plus he did pass you first then you passed him.

Joe
:beer:

velo 05-24-02 02:44 PM

As long as you're both on a solo ride, yes, the guy was wrong. If he asked you, then maybe that would have been a different story.

LittleBigMan 05-24-02 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Spire
It seems to me that what he did was not very polite; he could have atleast offered to switch at some point.

Am I being oversensitive on this or am I right that what he did was wrong?

I think maybe he didn't know this was wrong.

Maybe he thought is was futile to pass you again. ;)

Brains 05-25-02 05:29 AM

Personally, I will slipstream any passing cyclist given a chance.
If they start to slow down then I have no problem taking the lead for a bit.

It does not bother me if people slipstream me, as long at they take their turn eventually.

(I guess it depends on how bad the headwind is)

RiPHRaPH 05-25-02 06:19 AM

i guess it depends. i always look at the amount of fluid in their water bottles. if they are carrying 2 bottles and they are about empty then i can logically conclude that they have been riding a while and their tank may be on empty (we've all been there) - so there are differing circumstances....
otherwise just not pedaling for a while and slowing down to let them pass (like a tailgater while driving)

knifun 05-27-02 10:34 AM

Next time, just slow down and ask him if he wants to work in a paceline with you. If he knows what pacelining is, he will offer to pull at the front, if he doesn't, he will ask - or you offer to teach him. Tell him 20 second pulls (into such a stiff wind), then pull over and you take 20 seconds.


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