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    Toyota Racing Dev. PWRDbyTRD's Avatar
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    Stupid wheels...

    I got bout 18 miles into my ride yesterday and it happened, coming into a curb I broke a spoke. So I rode about another 2 miles or so as it progressively got worse stressing all the other spokes. The wheel is going to be fixed up once again by the LBS and I'm ordering a set of XT Disc hubs to Velocity Deep V rims 36H of course. Hopefully this should be a bit stronger wheel.
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    Now PWRD,There are no stupid wheels just stupid people riding them.
    Like a circus monkey on a stolen Harley......

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    What wheels do you have right now? The rynolites?

    It says in Sun Rim's website you can get 48h rynolites. I think that would be pretty strong...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnbiker66
    Now PWRD,There are no stupid wheels just stupid people riding them.
    Yes, the wheel is simply doing it's best. Value judgements are probably not being welcomed by the wheel lobby.

    Reminds of the question "How many physchiatrists does it take to change a light bulb? Answer "Only one but the light bulb must want to change".
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    haha...I have the ditch witch 32h right now. I'm going to 36H here very shortly....and yeah...it's me, but I choose to say it's the wheel's fault and call it "big guy syndrome"
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    Quote Originally Posted by PWRDbyTRD
    haha...I have the ditch witch 32h right now. I'm going to 36H here very shortly....and yeah...it's me, but I choose to say it's the wheel's fault and call it "big guy syndrome"
    Three words: straight gauge spokes
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    if the 36 dont hold up, find a khs dealer. they offere a mtb tandem with 40 spoke wheels and the sell a set as a replacment item.any khs dealer can get 'em $250 is what I was quoted for a pair. I got lucky and got just the rear for $85 bucks. thay are xt tandem hubs hand laced to ryno lite rims. we had to respace and redish the wheeldown to 135 from 145 but it only took a few minutes and was really easy. I am thinking of getting a complete set so they match and I'll have an extra rear wheel set up.
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    I second the 40 spoke wheel. The strength of a wheel is not the rim or the hub. It's the spokes. The more spokes to distribute the load the better. The rim construction may help resist twisting, but spoke breakage is all about the spokes.

    I would have a 40 spoke wheel built up custom with Wheelsmith or DT spokes. This way you know you are not getting some cheap offbrand spokes that are more likely to be defective. A defective spoke is going to quickly make itself known with your weight.

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    I have Velocity deep Vs with XT hubs on my elderly Trek 7000 mtb- a very tough set of wheels. But I weigh 158 lbs. so I am not punishing them too severely.
    The only thing bad about the deep V rims is trying to find tubes with long presta. They can be hard to find.

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    Quote Originally Posted by forum*rider
    What wheels do you have right now? The rynolites?

    It says in Sun Rim's website you can get 48h rynolites. I think that would be pretty strong...
    Finding a hub would be hard. Only a few companies make them to fit mtb (I don't even remember who)

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    Quote Originally Posted by pmseattle
    I have Velocity deep Vs with XT hubs on my elderly Trek 7000 mtb- a very tough set of wheels. But I weigh 158 lbs. so I am not punishing them too severely.
    The only thing bad about the deep V rims is trying to find tubes with long presta. They can be hard to find.
    You can drill them out pretty easily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maelstrom
    Finding a hub would be hard. Only a few companies make them to fit mtb (I don't even remember who)
    Don't forget it's a disc model too

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    Being something of a big guy myself, I've never broken my wheels. I'm hell on cranksets, but not wheels. I don't know what wheels my raleigh came with, but they are still on the bike, eight years running. You might want to get whatever those are.

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    It's like flat tires, some people, regardless of size, seem to be more prone to it than others. I'm a big dude, too, but I've ridden really cheap wheels and never had a problem, I don't ever go any lower than 32 spokes, though. You might think about buying that once-in-a-lifetime wheelset, (with the Phil 40h hubs, etc.) if you continue to have problems, and definitely quit busting curbs, ain't you ever heard of Vehicular Cycling?
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    PWRDbyTRD isn't that big. A pair of 36 spoke wheels, laced in a 3X pattern with staright gauge spokes will hold up just fine for him. Although, he should avoid hitting curbs with his front wheel and hop up on the sidewalk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DieselDan
    PWRDbyTRD isn't that big. A pair of 36 spoke wheels, laced in a 3X pattern with staright gauge spokes will hold up just fine for him. Although, he should avoid hitting curbs with his front wheel and hop up on the sidewalk.
    I have no problem popping the front wheel onto the curb, I can clear any curb I've found...the rear wheel is my issue.
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    Too much accelration from those legs old mate. Slow down on your take offs
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    Quote Originally Posted by DieselDan
    PWRDbyTRD isn't that big. A pair of 36 spoke wheels, laced in a 3X pattern with staright gauge spokes will hold up just fine for him. Although, he should avoid hitting curbs with his front wheel and hop up on the sidewalk.
    Dude, WTF are you talking about. No offence TRD, you are a big guy. More than 3 times of what I weigh. He Isn't that big?? WTF?? Do you see 500# guys riding bikes, I don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BostonFixed
    Dude, WTF are you talking about. No offence TRD, you are a big guy. More than 3 times of what I weigh. He Isn't that big?? WTF?? Do you see 500# guys riding bikes, I don't.
    none taken. I think I am the biggest on the forum. though I have heard of a few bigger guys who ride trikes.
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    so if it's you're rear wheel do you think you could lean more onto the handlebars when you go up curbs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by forum*rider
    so if it's you're rear wheel do you think you could lean more onto the handlebars when you go up curbs?
    working on my technique, but I'm still not on par. I might practice a bit more when I know the wheel can handle it.
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    I see, I'm pretty sure that would eliminate you're problem if you can get it right(it's hard!).

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    heheheh when they go, does it sound like a bunch of dried spaghetti snapping?
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    TRD, do you ride clipless or flat pedals?
    It's really easy with clipless or toeclip pedals to "lift" the rear wheel off the ground, and up and over a curb.
    I doo this all the time on roadbikes, but i'm a lot lighter than you.

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