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Old 03-18-05, 05:07 PM   #1
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Camelbak Rogue vs. Classic

Does anybody ride with either of these packs on a road bike? If so, which do you like better, and why? i'm looking to get one of them since i go through way more than two water bottles on a 40mi ride. I'd also be interested to hear of any other brands that you like that come in <$50 and hold at least 2L (70oz). I've seen the MULE, but it's like $80 and out of my price range. Thanks.
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I picked up a Camelbak Classic in July 2003. I use it on long rides and during the warm/hot months. I got it rather than the Rogue or any other model because I wanted something to carry water, not something with lots of pockets and pouches to hold things I might need during my ride.
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I have a Rogue - while it carries more than the Classic, the pockets are still pretty small. There is a zippered pocket that is about the size of a large MTB tube, and it has open pockets good for carrying a mini-pump, a couple of energy bars, and some other small items. I got it because I like the big screw-top that Camelbaks have (vs. the ziplock for Platypus - I have a hard time closing it, and I hate feeling water drip down your back from a bag you thought you had sealed), and I wanted just a little room to carry a few extra items.

I would consider how much carrying space you want from a hydration pack, and what kind of device opens/closes the water bag. I got a great deal on the Platypus Roadrunner (good for winter riding and it carries lots of stuff), but I'm disappointed by how difficult it is to seal the bag.

Look around online for deals - I got my Rogue for $30 or so, not $50.
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I have a Camelbak 'Waterbak'. I too bought it for carrying water as opposed to carrying stuff and am quite happy with it.
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Believe it or not I have seen some very good deals on a back pack water pack at Big 5 sporting goods. They make several different brands and some are more pack than water supply.
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Given the choice, I'd probably go with the Rogue. Same water capacity, doesn't appear to take up any more space on your back, and just enough cargo space to be useful.

I've got a Classic, a Mule, and picked up a Slipstream super-cheap at either Performance or Nashbar (same company anyway, eh?). The Classic is nice and light, but can't really carry anything besides a wallet and energy bar or maybe an iPod. The Mule feels pretty big, and I can nudge it with the back of my helmet, but I can carry food and a pair of shorts. The Slipstream... well, I haven't used it yet.
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Depends on whether you carry anything in a Back pack at present- The classic has just room for the bladder and a pouch for keys or phone. I can just about get a Pertex jacket in aswell but that is it.

But I use the Classic in preference to any other- mainly because I do not want to carry much extra. Done 12 hour rides with one and any ride longer than 4 hours and the Classic will be on the back.
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I'm sure it's out of your price range, but personally any time it's to hot to do a ride with 2 water bottles, it also used to be to hot for me to do a ride with a backpack without it making my back hot, sweaty, and uncomfortable. But recently they started making camelback style packs that have 90% solved this problem (strangely, I wasn't able to find any that cameback itself makes).

These packs use a curved plastic back to keep the backpack just off your back, so air can flow over your back and cool you off. Take a look at any of the "air comfort" links on this page:
http://www.deuterusa.com/systems/

Other companies do the same thing, but use a different name - my local bike shop carries a brand called "Detours" that also has similar packs.


On a different note, if you're just looking to carry more water, have you seen the behind-the-seat water bottle holders that would let you carry 2 more water bottles, like this one:
http://www.eriksbikeshop.com/ride/pr...ffset=2&s_id=0
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I'm sure it's out of your price range, but personally any time it's to hot to do a ride with 2 water bottles, it also used to be to hot for me to do a ride with a backpack without it making my back hot, sweaty, and uncomfortable. But recently they started making camelback style packs that have 90% solved this problem (strangely, I wasn't able to find any that cameback itself makes).

These packs use a curved plastic back to keep the backpack just off your back, so air can flow over your back and cool you off. Take a look at any of the "air comfort" links on this page:
http://www.deuterusa.com/systems/

Other companies do the same thing, but use a different name - my local bike shop carries a brand called "Detours" that also has similar packs.


On a different note, if you're just looking to carry more water, have you seen the behind-the-seat water bottle holders that would let you carry 2 more water bottles, like this one:
http://www.eriksbikeshop.com/ride/pr...ffset=2&s_id=0
Never had a problem with a sweaty back or the water in the bladder getting warm- but then I am in England.

And one of the advantages of a Camelback or any similar system is that I do not have to reach for a bottle to drink. Spout in mouth and I am drinking- as much as I like and as often as I like.
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Some of the Deuter bags have water bladders like a Camelbak, too.

My idea of a perfect bag would be a Deuter with the spring/mesh suspension and a drop-in Camelbak "UnBottle" bladder.
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I went with the rogue over the classic and have no regrets. It actually has enough pockets to be useful while keeping a low profile.
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I have the Blowfish and I like it. Kind of bridges between the smaller ones and the Mule. Good enough fr putting in some books and going to class also.

As for riding, I really like packing my bladder full of ice so it cools my back - at least for the 1st half an hour or so.
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Ive have 4 camelbak's but Ive been riding with the Rogue the longest.
The main reason I got it was for the small pockets. I can carry tube, tool, levers, ID, some $ and a house key with ease.

I also have the Mule for MTB, and Ive ridden with it on the road....no water or storage issues with this one!!!

I would say, between the Rogue and Classic it boils down to weather you need/want extra storage. If that's the case, its better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.
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