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    Double Leg Kickstand

    Anybody know where I can find a double leg kickstand at a better deal than this ESGE at $49!!!!
    I tried doing a search but I couldn't get it to work for some reason.


    http://www.bikepartsusa.com/product_...ml?p=01-170742
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    the better question is why do you want a kickstand
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    Quote Originally Posted by PWRDbyTRD
    the better question is why do you want a kickstand
    Why wouldn't I want a kickstand?
    And PLEASE tell me why you think this is a "better question". Do you have Monkey see, Monkey do syndrome?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hillyman
    Anybody know where I can find a double leg kickstand at a better deal than this ESGE at $49!!!!
    The short answer to your question is: I don't know. I suspect that's a pretty representative price for that kickstand.

    If you're willing to tolerate a little additional information, that kickstand won't fit lots of bikes. Unless you have a steel touring style frame with long chainstays, I wouldn't bet on it fitting.

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    I have a Trek 520 touring steel frame. My only concern is the mounting bracket rubbing on the front derail cable. I will more than likely go for the ESGE kickstand, but its a heck of a jump from $10 for a single to $49 for a double.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hillyman
    I have a Trek 520 touring steel frame. My only concern is the mounting bracket rubbing on the front derail cable. I will more than likely go for the ESGE kickstand, but its a heck of a jump from $10 for a single to $49 for a double.
    The really nice thing about the double leg is how stable it is. You can stand the bike on the kickstand even when you have loaded panniers. If it will fit on your bike and if you don't mind the weight, I think that it's 5 times better than anything else that I'm aware of so it's worth the money. In a pinch, you can file a notch in the kickstand mounting plate for the shift cable.
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    Hey, Hillyman,

    I brought one of those home from the LBS a couple of weeks ago to put on a 520, and the problem is with the rear der. cable, it sits right under the clamp. Filing a notch looked too big a hassle. I'm going to go with a chainstay mounted kickstand.

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    Wow!! Thanks for the links!!!!!!! I'm tired of my utility bike (and old schwinn world
    tour) falling over when loaded when I make a shopping run. A double kickstand
    should do the trick and there WILL be one on this bike a soon as it arrives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hillyman
    Why wouldn't I want a kickstand?
    And PLEASE tell me why you think this is a "better question". Do you have Monkey see, Monkey do syndrome?
    Because it adds more weight for no reason and looks ugly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by junioroverlord
    Because it adds more weight for no reason and looks ugly.
    The reason for using one of these is that it does enable you to park the bike without scraping the paint against walls etc. or the bike falling over which is a problem with a fully loaded touring machine. A few pounds more, yes, but when collapsed it tucks away with both legs together alongside the chainstay and is not obtrusive. It has proved to be an asset up to now and I am looking forward to see how it will perform on my next cycle/camping tour in the summer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by junioroverlord
    Because it adds more weight for no reason and looks ugly.
    Yep,thats the Monkey do thing!
    Having something to hold up our bike is "No reason"?
    And I guess standing on your head to see that someone has a kickstand could get ugly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Retro Grouch
    In a pinch, you can file a notch in the kickstand mounting plate for the shift cable.
    Sounds worth it to me. Thanks!
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    haha...50 bucks to stand the bike up...everyone has their priorities...and I have no monkey syndrome
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    He's talking about a heavy-load-capable TOURING bike, folks!!

    NOT a "racer"...or a "sport-touring" model...or a MTB!

    For a touring...or utility (city) bike, a kickstand is really a necessity! Trying to put a heavy cargo load on ...or attach a trailer to...such a bike WITHOUT one can be, at best, "interesting", shall we say!

    As for the problem of kickstand attachment to a Trek 520 touring bike...I feel for you!! I HAVE a Trek 520...indeed, the ONLY place a kickstand can be mounted, reliably, IS on the chainstay/rear triangle!!
    There IS NOT enough room for a center mount model of any kind!!! Especially with full fenders!!

    What Trek was thinking...I don't know....

    Also... weight-weenies DO NOT RIDE heavy-load-capable touring bikes!!!
    A bad day on the bike is better than a good day at work!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Bud
    As for the problem of kickstand attachment to a Trek 520 touring bike...I feel for you!! I HAVE a Trek 520...indeed, the ONLY place a kickstand can be mounted, reliably, IS on the chainstay/rear triangle!!
    There IS NOT enough room for a center mount model of any kind!!! Especially with full fenders!!
    How about mounting one of those Tranz-X stands on each side? Wouldn't that be cheaper than the double legged kickstand as well as be more stable?
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    Black Bud has it, so does PWRDbyTRD, priorities. for touring it´s not about how macho the bike looks, nor the weight, it´s about function. picking up a fully loaded bike from the ground everytime i stop and have to leave the bike alone is not fun. i´ll get one of these as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Bud
    He's talking about a heavy-load-capable TOURING bike, folks!!

    NOT a "racer"...or a "sport-touring" model...or a MTB!

    For a touring...or utility (city) bike, a kickstand is really a necessity! Trying to put a heavy cargo load on ...or attach a trailer to...such a bike WITHOUT one can be, at best, "interesting", shall we say!

    As for the problem of kickstand attachment to a Trek 520 touring bike...I feel for you!! I HAVE a Trek 520...indeed, the ONLY place a kickstand can be mounted, reliably, IS on the chainstay/rear triangle!!
    There IS NOT enough room for a center mount model of any kind!!! Especially with full fenders!!

    What Trek was thinking...I don't know....

    Also... weight-weenies DO NOT RIDE heavy-load-capable touring bikes!!!
    How about using some more smileys and font sizes. Maybe that'll get your point across better.
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    Why wouldn't I want a kickstand?
    My patrol bike has one... if you have a specific purpose for one then it is needed...
    Just your average club rider... :)

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    I have a double kickstand on my commuter, it's great! I don't notice the weight and it doesn't cause any problems to my bike's performance, most of the time I don't think about it. It comes in handy when I load my child on the back and when I'm working on my bike its very stable and allows me to adjust brakes and gears. I bought it through a tandem bike store in new york state, forgot the link, but it was the cheapest price out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Bud
    He's talking about a heavy-load-capable TOURING bike, folks!!

    NOT a "racer"...or a "sport-touring" model...or a MTB!

    For a touring...or utility (city) bike, a kickstand is really a necessity! Trying to put a heavy cargo load on ...or attach a trailer to...such a bike WITHOUT one can be, at best, "interesting", shall we say!

    As for the problem of kickstand attachment to a Trek 520 touring bike...I feel for you!! I HAVE a Trek 520...indeed, the ONLY place a kickstand can be mounted, reliably, IS on the chainstay/rear triangle!!
    There IS NOT enough room for a center mount model of any kind!!! Especially with full fenders!!

    What Trek was thinking...I don't know....

    Also... weight-weenies DO NOT RIDE heavy-load-capable touring bikes!!!
    You're going to give yourself an aneurysm

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    Just my two-cents, but I see nothing wrong with a kickstand on a bike - even a racing bike. While my present bike doesn't have one (Felt F-35) I did have one on my other bikes. It just made things simpler when stopping. Even when locking it to a bike rack where the kickstand wan't "needed", it was convenient for holding the bike up while I got my lock out.

    As for looks, frankly, I could care less. As for weight, well, all the calculations I have seen show even a 5 lb difference in weight only makes a difference of seconds over a course of 20 miles or more. So how much difference is a kickstand going to make? For serious racers, I guess it matters, but for people like me who certainly like to go fast, but not race, a few seconds simply isn't going to matter. The convenience is more valuable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hillyman
    Anybody know where I can find a double leg kickstand at a better deal than this ESGE at $49!!!!
    I tried doing a search but I couldn't get it to work for some reason.


    http://www.bikepartsusa.com/product_...ml?p=01-170742
    Contact Todd Kuzma at Tullio's Big Dog Cyclery. We had one in stock when we closed in Dec. I think it was $32. He may even sell it for less.
    todd@heronbicycles.com or you can also call (815)223-1776
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    Quote Originally Posted by hillyman
    I have a Trek 520 touring steel frame. My only concern is the mounting bracket rubbing on the front derail cable. I will more than likely go for the ESGE kickstand, but its a heck of a jump from $10 for a single to $49 for a double.

    It's a tight fit, but it can be installed on the 520, even with fenders. Just remove the rear wheel and move the bottom part of the fender away while you install the kickstand, then put the fender and wheel back in place. As for cable rubbing:

    - Remove the front derailleur cable during the kickstand installation. Then run the cable in the tight space between the bottom bracket/seattube and the kickstand. It will modify slightly your derailleur adjustment but it will be fine otherwise.

    - Make sure you don't pinch the rear derailleur cable underneath the kickstand.
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    I'm not a weight weenie, I just don't like extra stuff on my bike. It ruins its sexy curves. As sarcastic as this sounds I'm serious.
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    While I can understand the dual leg kickstand for a touring rig or a cruiser tandem. I will never again have a kickstand of any form on my bikes.

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