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    Is this even worth fixing up or should i try to return it and get my money back.

    short deception: I've been looking for a decent bike to go back and forth to town and perhaps with a side of mountain biking/touring/camping. So I'm aware that I'm not going to get a decent bike for 50 dollars to do what I need and I'm trying my best to stay away from Walmart brand bikes but they keep ramming me up the ass. My mother was looking in the trader helper for bicycles, so she calls this guy that had this road master and without telling me she went and got it and when she came home with it. I was overly disappointed to be honest and I sounded out a a few things that I shouldn't have said. Don't get me wrong i am very grateful what she did but i'm just disappointed.

    Both the frame and rims are steel, The handle bars seems to be off a bit, the rims are untrue, the chain rubs the front derailleur, the brakes seems to be off center. The rims need to be replaced. Other than that it is a smooth ride when I can find the right gear, also the front wheel when spin by hand a little it keeps on going for a good 1- 2 minutes so the bearings seems good.










    What should I do? Take it back to the person that she got it from and try to get the 50 bucks back? And or should I just try to fix it up by buying new parts when I can or is the frame itself not worth my time or money. she told me that he bought this bike from a bike shop which i don't see how a bike shop would even carry this type of brand.

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    Ride it, learn to work on it, tune it up and ride it a bit more. Save your money for a better bike. FWIW not all steel bikes are bad, most of mine are steel and some cost close to $1000 when new. I would spend any money on upgrades, only necessary repair parts. Park Tool has great tutorials on how to fix things as does YouTube.

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    One thing.. the Rear derailleur mount goes on the outside of the frame .. what they used as a Nut D shaped piece. goes in the dropout ,
    and holds the RD mount on ... and the axle nut does the rest.


    There are pretty cheap aluminum rims coming on PRC bikes now .. did you use a magnet to confirm they are steel?

    new low end wheels are about $50 each
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    That could be the reason that the chain is rubbing against the front derailleur because of it only rubbing in certain gears. And Yes the rims are steel, so is the derailleurs and v brakes. I think all together, I would like to spend 100-200 dollars in parts over the course of several months and if something does happen to the frame all I have to do is just reused the parts on an other bicycle

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    Bike seems fine aside from needing a tuneup. Learn to wrench on it and have fun. Maybe give it a custom paint job over the winter to really personalize it.

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    How ironic, that a Huffy mountain bike is named, "Roadmaster." Aside from the derailleur dropout being mounted incorrectly and the saddle, it looks okay. You should probably go over it from head to toe, because there's no telling what else is mis-adjusted. But it'll give you something to ride while you're saving for something better. Those rims sure look like aluminum to me!

    If it had been bought at a store, I'd say take it back; but if your mom got it from a private seller, I think you're stuck with it.

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    Naw, don't try to take it back, especially for $50. Ride it, tune it, overhaul it. Shop used parts for really inexpensive upgrades, like the wheels, if they actually are steel, and smooth tire if your going to ride pavement. Nothing wrong with a steel frame or those bolted axles. That bike is worth a lot because you don't have to worry about wrecking a more costly bike as you wrench on it, and because your mom gave you a wonderful gift.

    My $80 Giant mtb is that sort of beast and I had a great time working on it. Learned a lot, gained confidence, and know the bike inside out out. Craigslist seems to have lots of tires at about 5 - 10 each in great condition so I've tried a few different ones just this winter.

    Take care of it, and when you get a different bike, grace your mom by giving the bike to someone less fortunate than you. She'll like that.
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    Typical result of when someone who knows less than zero about bikes goes out to find a used one. One look at the solid axle wheels, the one-piece crank, and a gentle lift to judge the weight would be enough to tell me to leave it behind even for just $50. I also check wheels for being true and have rejected a lot of otherwise decent bikes because the wheels were bent. It' a potential sign for a bike that has been abused.

    It is not worth spending a lot of money on upgrades as you already have been told.

    If the rims are not too far out of true, it would be a lot less expensive to get them trued at a bike shop over buying a new set of wheels. The front derailleur problem probably just needs to have the cable adjusted if it happens to be one of those which are indexed. There has got to be a lot of tutorials on YouTube on how to do it if you don't already know. The one thing I would change is that wretched seat. It seems counter-intuitive but wide seats can be less comfortable than a narrow seat if it ends up chafing your thighs. If I come across one like that shown on a used bike that I recondition, the wide seat goes in the trash.

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    That derailer mount
    what the???
    immediately sets off red flags to me that the bike may be cobbled together by a flipper who doesn't know proper assembly

    hey is it even your size? perhaps this can be a valid reason for immediate donation that somewhat spares mom's feelings ?

    also, a wheel that spins 2mins doesn't indicate good bearings, more likely theyre adjusted too loosely.

    donate it to a bike co-op as parts
    while there take a look around for a new used bike project

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    Put the rear derailleur where its supposed to be and just ride it. It will make your mom happy.

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    Are you lucky!

    The primary function of your first bike is to help you figure out what you want in your second bike. That Roadmaster is perfect! Just use it for awhile and try to focus on the benefits instead of the deficiencies.

    1. You'll get the opportunity to learn about tuning and repairing bikes.
    2. You'll learn how to explain the differences in quality bikes vs. not-so-quality bikes to your mom.
    3. You'll figure out what kind of bike you want/need for the kind of riding you find yourself doing.
    4. If it gets stolen you won't have lost much.
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    I hate it when someone gives me a bike related item thinking I am going to be grateful. It is usually something I wouldn't even look at. If I want or need something I will get it myself.
    There have been a few exceptions!
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    Find a bicycle co-op in your area and tune up your bike. Otherwise, take it to a bike shop and have them tune it up for you, before you ride it anywhere

    Your bike has great potential for becoming a fairly decent bike for the fifty bucks spent!

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    Quite a bit of mixed views going on here. One thing I should ask why are y'all even suggesting the idea of donating the bike, when I be losing 50 dollars even more so than keeping the bike and fixing it up. 50 dollars is quite a bit for one to lose on a fixed income and yes 50 dollars was a bit high for this bike, but like I said, I had no control over buying this bike. If this bike was the only option i had, i would only pay 5-10 dollars and that would be pushing it. I have a guy that is going to be buying my welder and i was thinking i would just upgrade the rims and tires and perhaps a more better stronger cables but seeing the price of rims i'm not quite sure i can manage to stuff that in $120


    Well, yesterday I have ridden the bike for 2 miles (1 mile there and 1 mile back) I suppose that is a great first start considering that I'm overweight and don't exercise at all and staying up for almost 15-20ish hours for the past 8 month. The bike rides smooth, no noticeable flex, its only bumpy when I hit the front brakes, then the front fork acts as a damn Pogo stick. I also figured out that it doesn't change gears at all but that in itself isn't a problem as I'm going to fix that later on today by fooling around with the adjustment screws.

    Overall, I think the bike is going to suit my needs well, mostly at a commuter standpoint though But someday I would like to be able to take it through the trails here in the Talladega national forest. Any cheap recommendation on MTB rims, I would prefer double walled rims to accommodate my overweightness.

    P.S: The rear derailleur seems to only be able to be bolted up on to the inside frame of the dropouts as this derailleur doesn't have a flat surface.
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    Baby steps will eventually get you there.

    1. parktool.com is your friend. They have step-by-step instructions for tuning your bike. When their directions leave you befuddled, ask here in the Bike Mechanics forum where some professional and skilled hobby mechanics hang out and, I promise, they'll have answers.
    2. Don't be too quick to take a screwdriver to your derailleur. Sometimes the limit screws need to be fiddled with but most derailleur adjustments are made with cable tension barrel adjusters. Always try that first.
    3. I don't do this anymore but, when I was learning to work on bikes and didn't have any money, I used to cruise the neighborhood on garbage pick up day looking for bicycle discards. I can almost guarantee you'll find a front wheel that way but maybe not a rear.

    Oh - and I was serious when I said that the purpose of your first bike is to figure out what you want your second bike to be.
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    Donations=tax deductions, but you need a taxable income and the deductions have to exceed the personal deduction as a base figure ..

    as a kid with a gift from Mom that is not realistic ..

    Oh - and I was serious when I said that the purpose of your first bike is to figure out what you want your second bike to be.
    I quite agree, you need something to begin to learn mechanics upon, and that is as good a place to start as any..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Landofnone View Post
    P.S: The rear derailleur seems to only be able to be bolted up on to the inside frame of the dropouts as this derailleur doesn't have a flat surface.
    The rear derailleur is attached to the silver metal "claw" that is then attached to the inside of the frame. The claw should be on the outside, with the claw opening matching the frame opening for the wheel.

    And the little nut & bolt going through the frame and claw are in the wrong place. They should not go through that frame dropout tab, but rather in the axle slot. I don't know if it will improve rear shifting or not, but it is currently incorrect.

    If you have front derailleur rubbing, it could be an adjustment problem, or just that you need to make slight front derailleur adjustments with the sifter while riding, as you shift the rear up & down (called "trimming"). That's because the chain moves left and right as you shift the rear, sometimes causing it to rub the front.

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    Fietsbob, instead of generalizing me as a kid, perhaps you should be asking my age.
    Homebrew01, perhaps posting a photograph would have explain it better but now i see what you was referring to.
    For Future references: My learning style is a bit different than most, I would say it is a mixture of kinesthetic and visual with a hint of auditory, so in the long run please do keep that in mind.

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    Landofnone, this bike at Amazon looks very much like your Roadmaster. Zoom in on the rear and you can see how the derailleur mounts.

    Huffy Mountain Bike

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    Does one know how it effects the bike when the derailleur is mounted inside of frame dropouts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Landofnone View Post
    One thing I should ask why are y'all even suggesting the idea of donating the bike, when I be losing 50 dollars even more so than keeping the bike and fixing it up....the front fork acts as a damn Pogo stick.
    Quote Originally Posted by Landofnone View Post
    For Future references: My learning style is a bit different than most, I would say it is a mixture of kinesthetic and visual with a hint of auditory, so in the long run please do keep that in mind.
    Your learning style is unique, just like everyone else. See if there is a way to lock up the front shock maybe. We suggest ideas like donating because it's a good thing to do, when done for the right reasons. Charity and grace have a wonderful way of coming back to us eventually. You will get a million suggestions and opinions here on BF, many won't be relevant to you, the thread, or anything in particular. Part of the fun is weeding out what useful, and getting a laugh out of the rest, especially laughing at ourselves. Keep in mind no one here knows you, and it can take a few hundred posts before "personalities" emerge and are recognized a little.

    Keep riding, fiddling with the bike, and posting questions and comments and have a great time here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Landofnone View Post
    Does one know how it effects the bike when the derailleur is mounted inside of frame dropouts?
    derailer_hanger.jpg

    The red circle illustrates the zone you need to be concerned with.

    You need to be careful that the gap between the smallest cog and the fastener (nut/bolt thingy) for the derailer assembly illustrated with the yellow box is large enough to accommodate the chain when it's in the smallest gear while still allowing proper range of motion of the derailer itself. Since the derailer hanger is on the inside of the dropout this gap is smaller than it should be and the range of motion of the derailer might be compromised. If you put the derailer hanger on the outside of the dropout this gap will be larger allowing for more room for adjustment.

    If everything works well now you might not need to worry about changing anything. However, personally I'd move the derailer hanger to the outside of the dropout where it should be then I'd tune up the derailer itself to allow proper shifting, first starting with the H and L limit screws to make sure the chain won't be pushed off the gears...
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    I say just ride the heck out of it, and like other have mentioned your first bike is for you to figure out what you want for your second bike. I suggestion I have if you can't get the low quality shifters and derailers to work well together is to install a friction stem shifter. This one can be had for less than $15 on Amazon. I have a beater bike (that was actually my first adult bike, and gets more miles than my other 5 bikes) that I didn't want to spend much on when the original shifters broke. I got a set of these and have been more than happy.
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    I think you answered your own question about upgrades and repairs. You state that you would only have paid $5-$10 for it in the current condition. It makes no sense to replace wheels on a $10 bike! Also I cringe at the idea of turning the bike over to a bike store and asking for a "tune-up". It's like giving the bike store owner a license to steal your money. I have actually come across someone who paid a bike shop $80 for a tune up. A tune up on a bike that didn't cost much more than $100 new. The store is now out of business and I say GOOD RIDDANCE. You will do yourself a big favor by learning how to do your own simple repairs. Adjusting derailleurs and replacing cables isn't rocket science. No college degree required. Try looking at on-line instructions. One good place is the Sheldon Brown website (www dot sheldonbrown dot com). If you are short on cash, this is the smart way to go.

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    We all know Roadmasters and Huffys are the HiPoints of the bike world. Pacifics too. Like the HiPoint, they do do what they were designed for. I would put the derailure back on the outside of the frame. Any so called upgrade can be found on other ditched or trashed wally world bikes. The bike, believe it or not, judging by its parts is no older than 8 years old. I actually have a slightly older Roadmaster Mt. Fury at home waiting for a rebuild. Because I can work magic on crappy bikes.

    If I were you I would be looking for the cheapo bikes with better components to use such as the Next bikes. If you want to keep it hardtail; find a full suspension Next, the forks are a tad stiffer. Pacifics tend to use the same forks as roadmasters. Better yet some Mongoose forks, especially if it has an Element fork act as if they are progressive rate. Next would be some thumb shifters or trigger shifters, both can be found on cheao throw a way bikes. Then you can squeeze in an aluminum seven speed wheel from one. There are no other ratioed 1pc cranks though for mtbs.

    You wany to lose weight, you will with that bike. The users here can say what they want about the cheap bikes, I dont like them either, but I can make them work. Any good lbs or co-op will work on any bike- even if its with a grit on their face. Most people are going to have dept store bikes than not anyway. It don't take anything but time to polish a turd. All "upgrades" can be found for free with patience.

    Last thing is I would appologize to my mom for being any kind of rude and ungreatful. She got you a bike because you needed one. I dont know how well off she is, but she did you a favor she really didnt need to do, spending money she really didnt need to spend. Just to make you happy. None of use want to be given a crappy bike, but if my mama gave me a bike because I needed one- even if it was a first gen Huffy Stone Mountain with bent side pulls, I would proudly take it as if it were a 10000 dollar roadbike because shes my mama and all shes concerned about is me having a bike I need, not what kind it is.
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