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Old 06-18-14, 08:44 PM   #76
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I missed out that you were talking about those clear plastic covers that keep your long jackets from getting dirty from the rear spokes ... jasbeschermers (jacket protectors)

A Dutch city bike will more than likely come equipped with them just because you're dressed up a bit more.

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You should see the Whole Foods parking lot. Typically car and bike parking are very limited. And there are spots for about 60 bikes! You've got the gamut of fixies, city bikes, beater bikes and fancy racing bikes with the Priuses, BMWs, Volvos, beater cars and the typical compact and mid-sized cars. Everyone is a Whole Foods. Literally.
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It must be a West Coast thing. I've never seen the like. Sometimes people put cards or bits of plastic bottle in the spokes to make noise but thats as far as it goes. And even that is hit or miss.
Probably. You know how we also have those super tricked out cars too!

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(Most of the crime is drug related and involves people who know each other. It's far from random.) I live in one of the better parts but it's still colorful! Just the other day, a woman was arrested for hooking down at the corner.
Serious crime in Oakland is the same way. But car break-ins are equal opportunity in certain neighborhoods. But that isn't particularly shocking. I live in a safe area, there are occasional car-breakins on some streets. But more serious stuff is rare. Like occasionally I'll hear about someone's phone getting stolen. When I moved to my area is was more on the middle class scale. Now it is trickling up to upper middle class, but it is still diverse. I don't think there is an ethnic majority. If there is, it means 50-52% white, but not further.

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I'm jealous of Oakland. Here I am, just getting settled into this area, which will never be as progressive. Then again, no way I'd be able to afford to live in Oakland.

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Totally an Oakland cheerleader! I wouldn't say it is a conventional tourist attraction, but if you are in the Bay you should visit. Particularly if you like architecture or food. We have loads of Art Deco buildings downtown, and lots of good neighborhood housing stock from all sorts of eras. And lots of tasty high quality food places. You can get "expensive" tacos with pastured meat and handmade organic tortillas. Sure they are like $3.50, but that's not bad when you factor in ingredient quality and chef pedigree. Cheaper than going to a 5 star place. I love that we've got cheap places by a Michelin stared chef or someone fresh off a turn at a super high end place.

The central neighborhoods are pretty bikable, and that is spreading to the edge areas to, slowly but surely.
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Probably. You know how we also have those super tricked out cars too!


Serious crime in Oakland is the same way. But car break-ins are equal opportunity in certain neighborhoods. But that isn't particularly shocking. I live in a safe area, there are occasional car-breakins on some streets. But more serious stuff is rare. Like occasionally I'll hear about someone's phone getting stolen. When I moved to my area is was more on the middle class scale. Now it is trickling up to upper middle class, but it is still diverse. I don't think there is an ethnic majority. If there is, it means 50-52% white, but not further.


Totally an Oakland cheerleader! I wouldn't say it is a conventional tourist attraction, but if you are in the Bay you should visit. Particularly if you like architecture or food. We have loads of Art Deco buildings downtown, and lots of good neighborhood housing stock from all sorts of eras. And lots of tasty high quality food places. You can get "expensive" tacos with pastured meat and handmade organic tortillas. Sure they are like $3.50, but that's not bad when you factor in ingredient quality and chef pedigree. Cheaper than going to a 5 star place. I love that we've got cheap places by a Michelin stared chef or someone fresh off a turn at a super high end place.

The central neighborhoods are pretty bikable, and that is spreading to the edge areas to, slowly but surely.
There is ONE car here that is red and covered in flames. The funny part is that it is some 4 cylinder compact. But, you can tell the kid who drives it loves it. Other then that.... the tricked out cars are pretty limited to spinner hubs and after market window tint. (Which gives the police a reason to hassle the drivers-it's illegal here.) Unless you count classic restored cars. Lots of them.

Oh, we have that too. And last summer we had a problem with a bunch of wanna be hoodlums beating up people for their cell phones. I did have a run in with them but luckily I was by my brothers car and hopped right in. An hour later they jumped a guy. I reported it afterwards, sad I didn't report it before hand. (They got them. This town is wired for video both publicly and privately. They were 15-17 year old morons. That is pretty much it as far as serious random crime, thank god.)

This is a very diverse area. We've got old Polish sections with beautiful old churches in gold, Irish and Italian places with their interesting graveyards and festivals, some German enclaves still (Beer!!!), a small Jewish community, a lot of Hispanic folk, black folk from Philly, and a lot of new Indian immigrants who wear saris to go to Wallmart. It makes this area interesting. We have some great food around.. if you don't mind looking (or a warning from the chef that the cooking is authentic therefor SPICY! LOL)
That said, you drive 20 minutes out and you are in one of the last strong holds of the Klan. PA is an odd state like that. Each end is full of vibrate melting pots but the center man... the center.
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Probably. You know how we also have those super tricked out cars too!


Serious crime in Oakland is the same way. But car break-ins are equal opportunity in certain neighborhoods. But that isn't particularly shocking. I live in a safe area, there are occasional car-breakins on some streets. But more serious stuff is rare. Like occasionally I'll hear about someone's phone getting stolen. When I moved to my area is was more on the middle class scale. Now it is trickling up to upper middle class, but it is still diverse. I don't think there is an ethnic majority. If there is, it means 50-52% white, but not further.


Totally an Oakland cheerleader! I wouldn't say it is a conventional tourist attraction, but if you are in the Bay you should visit. Particularly if you like architecture or food. We have loads of Art Deco buildings downtown, and lots of good neighborhood housing stock from all sorts of eras. And lots of tasty high quality food places. You can get "expensive" tacos with pastured meat and handmade organic tortillas. Sure they are like $3.50, but that's not bad when you factor in ingredient quality and chef pedigree. Cheaper than going to a 5 star place. I love that we've got cheap places by a Michelin stared chef or someone fresh off a turn at a super high end place.

The central neighborhoods are pretty bikable, and that is spreading to the edge areas to, slowly but surely.
Unfortunately I live on the East Coast. I'm on the bay,sure, but a different bay.

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Always get some odd looks when I cycle in my kilt.
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Today I biked downtown (and back) fior drinks and pizza with friends. A "helpful" cyclist wished me a safe ride and asked if I had lights for the ride (left at midnight).

He and his friend sped off into the light without front lights, sub lowing through red lights and wearing all black. I thought, hopefully they have a safe ride, they seem to be far less cautious than I.

I am am going to blame the well wishes on my dress and unexpected attire.
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Before I head out for a ride, I always stop by the local trailer park to seek out prepubescents to approve my clothing choices...

I don't think that really happened. He just made it up to give everyone here a good laugh.
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In Amsterdam arguably the bicycling capitol of the world, many woman ride in dresses and skirts, it is the norm.
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Nonsense!! It's a specific yellow jersey that is worn by the leader in the TDF ... not any yellow jersey.

Wear the jersey. It is a good, visible choice. I have several yellow jerseys as well as yellow jackets and vests.
I have one that was signed by Phil Liggett, Paul Sherwen, Bob Roll and Craig Hummer...
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Anyone notice interesting behavior based on your clothing.
I almost always ride in a Campagnolo jersey with bibs, riding shoes, gloves and helmet. I spent 6 years working in Taiwan and living in the cities of Tainan and Taichung. I would usually try to ride to work once or twice a week and do 40 mile and/or 20 mile rides on the weekends. In both cities you didn't have to go terribly far before the traffic thinned out. The recreational riding boom there was still a year or 2 away, so it was quite unusual to see people fully dressed and on a road bike.

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In Taichung there was a 6-lane boulevard out near where I worked. It went uphill a ways to the top of a ridge. I would leave home, ride up to the top, ride another 8 or 10 miles along the ridge and then retrace my ride to go home. On a particularly hot day, I got up to the top of the ridge and I stopped to wait for a traffic light. I was sweating as though I was standing under a shower. An elderly guy dressed in white shorts, white T-shirt, gym shoes and a walking stick was waiting for the light on the sidewalk. He yelled something to get my attention. I turned to look at him and he gave me a Thumbs Up. I smiled, waved and said "Xie Xie"...
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I saw a bike documentary that showed Victorian women using little lead weights attached to their skirts to keep their skirts from flying up. That would seem to be an easy solution as well.
For some reason I remember that the Queen has small lead weights sewn into her dresses so she doesn't get Monroed.
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I don't ride in a skirt... but quite often slacks and a sports coat in cooler weather, currently the "feels like" is north of 90*F so short sleeves and shorts are the order of the day. I do ride in my kilt occasionally, and have capes and long coats that are worn in the winter. Currently I only have one bike around that has coat/skirt guards on it. This bike is on it's way to my son in Boston as soon as I get it over to Amtrak. I buy my coat guards from Dutch Bike Bits in the NL. Need to get a couple more sets ordered and installed. I do get the occasional comment about my dress and mode of transport. I rode my Raleigh 3 speed to my parents 50th wedding anniversary celebration, I was wearing a tuxedo and had a case of champagne strapped to the rack.

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I don't ride in a skirt... but quite often slacks and a sports coat in cooler weather, currently the "feels like" is north of 90*F so short sleeves and shorts are the order of the day. I do ride in my kilt occasionally, and have capes and long coats that are worn in the winter. Currently I only have one bike around that has coat/skirt guards on it. This bike is on it's way to my son in Boston as soon as I get it over to Amtrak. I buy my coat guards from Dutch Bike Bits in the NL. Need to get a couple more sets ordered and installed. I do get the occasional comment about my dress and mode of transport. I rode my Raleigh 3 speed to my parents 50th wedding anniversary celebration, I was wearing a tuxedo and had a case of champagne strapped to the rack.

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I want a cool cape! One that is bike friendly, but also doesn't look too masculine or voluminous. I have a cape now, but I think it won't be ideal on my bike. Haven't tried it yet, we are in the wrong weather season. And when I got my bike in the fall/winter it didn't occur to me to use it. And I really didn't ride at night when it will be chilly.

If anyone knows a good option. Iva Jean's looked great but it was sold out by the time I heard about it. Cleverhood looks too masculine.

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The capes I wear are custom made Inverness style, for rain I either wear the Log House Designs or a Carradice. I also have a great coat, but it is really too heavy for riding in.

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It is so true too! You always gotta avoid the street spirit guy! I am amazed he found a day with all those parking spots. I was so happy when the Oakland store opened. The Berkeley store is so annoying. Our wings suck now since they made them paleo. No longer crispy.
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I drive a truck in Chicago. Lots of women and a few men wearing dresses when they ride. It is called the Windy City for a reason. There is an art form to tucking the dress I would guess? On one pretty windy day I was driving down a commuter bike heavy stretch of street when a gust of wind tried ripping a girls sun dress off over her head as she was driving in traffic, revealing her very tasteful but extremely skimpy under garments to everyone within a blocks view. How she was able to hold the front of the dress down while holding the handle bars with the other hand, come to stop, all without crashing was beyond me? How there was no car crashes was also a miracle. Be careful .
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It is called the Windy City for a reason. There is an art form to tucking the dress I would guess? On one pretty windy day I was driving down a commuter bike heavy stretch of street when a gust of wind tried ripping a girls sun dress off over her head as she was driving in traffic, revealing her very tasteful but extremely skimpy under garments to everyone within a blocks view. How she was able to hold the front of the dress down while holding the handle bars with the other hand, come to stop, all without crashing was beyond me?
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I just purchased a yellow jersey (nothing on it....plain bright yellow) because A. It was the only one they had that fit me properly B. It really is high vis and I ride mostly on public streets

Now if you can come up with a couple of clever retorts for those sure to come nasty comments from passing cars..........
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In terms of male behavioral response, I think there's no meaningful distinction to be made there! From pleated tartan skirts, to business pant suits, to hooker hose, guys'll take advantage of any pretext to, um, "express their appreciation" of la bella figura.
I bet those guys that give out cat calls or other responses are otherwise too intimidated by your level of fitness, athleticism or bravery to ride in traffic if you are dressed in bicycle garb.
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If it makes you feel a little more normal, here is a blog by a lady who like to wear white dresses and heels on her bike
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She manages to do just fine!
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