So you buy $X,000 12 pound bikes ?
I think there are groups of snobs in bike culture in general. Some don't consider you a cyclists unless you ride a roadie in full kit. Some won't consider you a cyclist unless you race. Maybe you're not cool if you don't basically live on a bike and lounge in bike shops...ect.
There are all sorts of stupid ideas about what makes one a cyclist, including the brand, type and price of bike you ride.
I just avoid those folks and associate with those that simply love bikes and love riding them be it a wally world bike or a $10k bike, whether they race or just like to coast around town for fun or ride to work. The only thing that really matters is that they love riding.
Personally, I think people who put together frankenstein bikes are awesome and I don't really care what people are wearing.
Here in the Twin Cities we have a lot of bike snobbery but also a lot of plain old good bike folk, as I call them. Some shops are more snobby than others, but I can role in to Freewheel and they are awesome to everyone. I've seen people ride in on $90 Walmart bikes and they get the same treatment as someone who bought a $1200 Trek from them. They are really all about loving bikes, at whatever access point or preference you have.
Just like my stereotype. It was an Aiwa.
And about bike snobs - they most definitely exist. They're the ones who roll up and blow past you without announcing at twice your speed. Or they cut it super close going between you and oncoming walkers/bikers/traffic because they just couldn't wait behind you for that extra 3 seconds. They're the ones who blow through the traffic lights and annoy drivers. They're the ones who treat every ride like it's a race. And I'd say there are far more snobs in the roadie group, than the MTB group (probably mostly due to the type of people who gravitate towards each). I think it's the same self-ego-self-entitlement that comes with buying a high-end sports car. You suddenly drive like a complete ass all the time; zipping between cars and lanes and gunning it off the line. Because you have an expensive, powerful car, common sense and acknowledgement of other humans just goes out the window. Just everyone get out of my way! Same thing goes for the same type of cyclists.
Route slips color coded.
Those looking for snobbery would find it if someone equipped like you picked up one of the slips for the century and someone else asked if they knew what they were getting into.
Heck I'd have asked someone setup that way twice for some shorter rides because decades later I still vividly remember a MTB racer who got dropped on a false flat going downhill because he simply ran out of gears.
Come to think of it 90% plus of the riders in the club used some kind of setup to allow a route slip to be attached to their handlebars. Those really looking for snobbery would find it in someone trying to explain to a unknown rider how to do that setup.
Gasp! We've been drive-by trolled, and all because one of you guys didn't wave at him! How could you be so heartless and unsociable??? :lol:
I've actually seen multiple times where someone in a public group ride looked down on another roadie for not having a serious race style bike. I'm not talking about someone showing up to a roadie ride on a MTB, but someone showing up with a lower end road bike (perfectly good enough for a rec group ride). This is the sort of thing that irritates me about a small number of roadies. If someone isn't rolling around on a $1500+ race bike they are not worthy of riding with them. Funny thing is sometimes I see these guys struggling to keep up with people riding an entry level bike.
It's small number of people relative to the whole but there are enough of them out there to irritate a lot of people.
Maybe this equipment snobbishness happens on 15mph rides to the coffee shop. But in my experience the harder the ride the less anyone cares what bike you show up on. The question is whether you can ride it. If you can, great. If not, you'll get dropped.
I did a cyclocross race with a MTB. I placed dead last. But even though it was obvious that I was a noobie, everyone was fine with my annoyingly slow pace and non-conformity. It was a great experience.
No snobbery on my mt bike rides. Ya'll need to come over to the dirt. We welcome everyone with 2 wheels and some pedals. ( One wheel too sometimes) On some rides there are beater singlespeeds, $ 6,000 carbon rides, older 26ers, hardtails, 29ers and everything in between. Just pedal and keep up, If you don't keep up ,we will wait for you. Or form another group at a slower pace. Besides, everyone knows that mt bikers are better riders with mad skills :)
Anecdotes about this roadie or that roadie are not evidence of anything except perhaps confirmation bias on the part of the person supplying the anecdote.
Wrong, it is not the people "judging", people are reacting to how they are treated by the 2%. Personally I try to be friendly to everyone on a bike, from a 4 year old to a fully kitted roadie. If some people want to be snobs because I dont ride, dress, have the same bike, and the same kit as they have, that is their problem, not mine.
Example 3 or 4 years ago there were a bunch of fully kitted roadies that were on the MUP and wanting to head out of town to the hiway. I rode up on my recumbent and heard them trying to figure out if the MUP would take them to the hiway. I offered to give them directions, but they basically ignored me, and took off on the wrong direction. They would find that they were hemmed in by a big drainage ditch, and would have to come back to where they were. That was their cost of their snobbery toward a bent rider. I just smiled.
If you met a few recumbent riders that were complete jerks, you wouldn't suddenly announce that 'bent folks have a "problem" in their community. You would only hold their actions against them as individuals, because it's *your* group. But when you encounter a roadie, who is part of the *other* group, your retrograde, tribal instincts guide you to judge all roadies together. It's a symptom of ignorant and primitive thinking, nothing more.
I have met a couple of annoying recumbent riders. By your logic, I can legitimately declare that recumbent riders are obnoxious jerks, and there must be something about 'bents that makes them that way. Hell, based on you, I guess I can say that the 'bent community has a real problem with nutty carbon fiber Trutherism conspiracy theory nonsense.
The OP's premise is bs. Bike culture is vast, diverse, evolutionary, and always morphing. To say the entire culture is snobby is hilarious. Sure there's a self-centered self righteous sub group within bike culture as there is within any group. They are a minority of a minority. I see say a thousand cyclists a year on the roads and trails where I live. Out of that I can count on one hand those that might be snobs. Now the red light running, side by side riding, lane swerving, salmon swimming, midnight-lightless, camo wearing, lane splitting, traffic challenged clueless asshats...that's an entirely different problem. Darwin will take care of them though not without collateral damage.
But it remains that like with almost any group, there is that 2% that give the whole group a bad name. This is not bigotry or anything like it. It is just a fact of life, and we all need to ignore the a******s of any group. Dont let them bother you. I for instance ride my trike or bent with a helmet, at the speed and cadence that feels right to me. I am very happy doing that, and I will stop and help anyone that accepts my help. If a snob wants to push his bike and ruin his flat tire rather than let me help him fix it because I am a bent rider, thats his choice, why should I get angry and let it ruin my day?
Your repetition of the same point about those bad bad people that make you generalize about all roadies only proves how ingrained your irrational, evidence-free prejudice is.
Very true. This is a well understood phenomenon: confirmation bias. People looking to judge roadies will ignore evidence contrary to their preconceived idea (neutral or friendly roadies), and give exaggerated weight to those experiences which confirm their idea (unfriendly roadies). This is why no amount of anecdotes about this or that naughty roadie should really lend any credence to a generalization about roadies. You're only hearing the evidence that supports the bias.
People who provide anecdotes and then generalize about a whole group of people should be mocked for their unscientific, medieval, irrational, racist-like thinking.