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    I'm relatively new here too and I can sort of see where the OP is coming from. I don't think it's snobbery so much, but it can be intimidating as a basic cyclist to come on here and see people talking about how you'll need at least $700 to get an entry-level bike, or about how if your fit is a couple of centimetres off you're going to have problems, or that anything cheaper than Campy Record or Shimano Ultegra will result in a horrible riding experience.

    The positives outweigh the negatives though. I've had some great mechanical advice on here, and learnt a lot about the history of certain manufacturers as well as the value of certain frames (which helped me get a great deal). It would be nice if there was more focus on riding, and less on the bikes and accessories, but that's just the way people are I guess.

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    I feel as a whole, the cycling community doesn't really have many useful tips for the casual cyclist. haven't found any channels where they are using off the shelf bikes. it's all higher end road bikes or mountain bikes. while yeah those bikes are nice, not everyone looking to go cycling is up for paying the premiums.

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    cyclo

    Yes your babble about bigots and racism is getting pretty tiresome. That kind of thinking is just a bunch of PC nonsense that most have moved beyond. When riding stop real quick and see if you can fine a bigot or racist hiding behind the tree, since you seem to worry so much about them.

    Just because some, basically the 2% you find in any group are snobs doesnt mean they or the people they are snobby to are either bigots or racist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tjkoko View Post
    I'm also a chiropractor..
    ..Which isn't technically speaking a crime, but only thanks to well-funded lobbyists

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    Quote Originally Posted by meanwhile View Post
    ..Which isn't technically speaking a crime, but only thanks to well-funded lobbyists
    AmeriKan MD's are turning more and more to using - however occasionally - alternative medicine. I mean statistics can't explain everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rydabent View Post
    cyclo

    Yes your babble about bigots and racism is getting pretty tiresome. That kind of thinking is just a bunch of PC nonsense that most have moved beyond. When riding stop real quick and see if you can fine a bigot or racist hiding behind the tree, since you seem to worry so much about them.

    Just because some, basically the 2% you find in any group are snobs doesnt mean they or the people they are snobby to are either bigots or racist.
    I never said the things you are claiming. The people who label an entire group based on the behavior of a tiny minority are exhibiting bigotry...by definition.
    Whenever a theory appears to you as the only possible one, take this as a sign that you have neither understood the theory nor the problem which it was intended to solve. -Popper

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclosaurus View Post
    I never said the things you are claiming. The people who label an entire group based on the behavior of a tiny minority are exhibiting bigotry...by definition.
    Actually, it's not bigotry. It's, like we've said before, stereotyping.
    Bigotry is a complete intolerance or hatred of other's beliefs, lifestyles, persona, etc. Whereas stereotyping islabeling a group based on actions or characteristics that are common among that group.

    I don't hate roadies, I just think a lot of them live up to the stereotype of being "better than you."

    Remember, like I said before: stereotypes exist for a reason - it's a highly observable blanket characteristic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the sci guy View Post
    Actually, it's not bigotry. It's, like we've said before, stereotyping.
    Bigotry is a complete intolerance or hatred of other's beliefs, lifestyles, persona, etc. Whereas stereotyping islabeling a group based on actions or characteristics that are common among that group.

    I don't hate roadies, I just think a lot of them live up to the stereotype of being "better than you."

    Remember, like I said before: stereotypes exist for a reason - it's a highly observable blanket characteristic.
    Since you're "the sci guy", I'll ask a relevant question: where's your data to demonstrate that these characteristics are common enough to justify the stereotype? Otherwise it's just anecdotes and bias, neither of which count as actual evidence of anything.
    Whenever a theory appears to you as the only possible one, take this as a sign that you have neither understood the theory nor the problem which it was intended to solve. -Popper

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    I am a snob when I ride my road bike, but really a nice muddy guy when I ride my Mountain Bike ;<)

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    So Tom only hires people that are nutty? Is part of the requirement to be a moderator on this site is that you have to be nuts??
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