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Old 08-09-14, 06:31 PM   #1
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I am a huge bike fan. in my free time I fix bikes. Its my hobby. On occasion I sell some but I make no profit really. I have a question though....I bought a bike for $20. Its a reighley mountain bike. I sanded it off with 420 grit paper, primed and put a few coats of a nice color. All in all it cost me about $25 to fix it and I have offer to sell it for $110. The problem is, when I paint bikes I paint over the letters too. Nowhere on the bike does it say its brand. I have same issue with every bike that I painted.

My question is this. Is there a way to avoid or rewrite something on the bike? I would like to write random things too but haven't figured a way on how to write or protect something written when I have to repaint the whole bike?

Anyone?

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Here's a bike that I repainted. I had the vinyl stick-on "retro grouch" made by a local sign company.
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Find someone with a Vinyl Cutter. I have one. All the orange on this bike, and everything on the stand was done with the Vinyl cutter.

It's very durable if you use the right stuff. CAST is better than CALENDAR Vinyl, but more expensive. 10 yards of 15" wide Orange ran me $50. But I use it for other stuff besides bikes

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So having something written or a logo with using paint only is out of question.

Im using my cell and cant see the writing on those bikes very well. But I will ask a few questions.

Can you easily tell its a sticker vs paint on it?
What else can you use that vinyl for?

I am considering to buy a vinyl machine IF the stickers are obvious, if they look like painted in.
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[QUOTE=gforeman;17023111]Find someone with a Vinyl Cutter. I have one. All the orange on this bike, and everything on the stand was done with the Vinyl cutter.

It's very durable if you use the right stuff. CAST is better than CALENDAR Vinyl, but more expensive. 10 yards of 15" wide Orange ran me $50. But I use it for other stuff besides bikes

Just looked a bit about vinyl cutters. Online says around $500 but then I called one guy selling vinyl printer and he said $5000

Can you tell me what would I really need to start with?
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IMO hand-painted lettering and pinstriping is the way to go if you're willing to invest the time to develop the skill. The equipment cost is comparatively little: a couple brushes, some paint and solvents, maybe an airbrush if you want to do more fancy stuff..
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Can you easily tell its a sticker vs paint on it?
You can definitely feel the raised vinyl with your finger. From 5' away I doubt most folks could tell. My Marin mountain bike came from the factory with vinyl sticker lettering but that was around 20 years ago.
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Just looked a bit about vinyl cutters. Online says around $500 but then I called one guy selling vinyl printer and he said $5000

Can you tell me what would I really need to start with?
They are not cheap for a good one. You would need one that does at least a 15" wide roll. Good vinyl is thin and conforms to curves. Heck, they wrap entire cars with it. The BEST think about using vinyl? Get tired of the color, change it! The tape job I did on my Trek lasted for years before I sold it. I told the guy who purchased it he could easily remote it, but he plans to keep it also.

I have a Roland GX24. That's close to $2000. You can find small tabletop units much cheaper.
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Great painting- I'd love to have that for the entry wall above my bike! Thanks for sharing it! (and now back to the OP's original thread )

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Like J.C. said, hand painting would yield excellent results from a talented artist. It's somewhat more versatile than vinyl, you can continue a line/pattern around hard edges, welds, and angles. But, it's harder to get the same pattern/lettering consistently, or to achieve a perfect symmetry between sides. Depends on your art level/hand steadiness/patience.

Stickers have good sides though. Fast to apply. Durable yet easily removed. Very consistent when doing multiple drawings, crisp edges, and straight lines. For permanent and long-lasting results, paint the bike, apply the stickers then spray a clearcoat all over.

I think a mix of both methods is the best alternative. Paint for lines (pinstriping), shapes, solid colors... Stickers for lettering, logos.
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