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Old 08-24-14, 07:32 PM   #1
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How would you design a bike for outdoor storage

I live in a small house and am unwilling to drag a bike up and down stairs, through living rooms, etc, etc. I want a bike that will survive and be as low maintenance as possible living outide. It will be used for commuting, errands and fun with my kid. Yard is tiny and I don't want to eat it up with a shed, so I'm thinking of a wall mount system between 2 houses. The space is narrow and rain / snow accumulation is very small between the houses. I'd compliment that protection with a small awning to keep direct precipitation off the bikes (3 total).

So, question is, what's the best bike to leave outside all the time? I'm thinking internally geared hub, aluminium frame / fork. What else? Chain cover?

I'd be willing to buy "off the rack" or have something built up to about a kilobuck.

I'm frustrated that I stopped riding after my last bike kept falling to pieces after being left out over the winter... I want usability, durability and low maintenance. Am I high?

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How about not worry about the bicycle and get a cover: Robot Check

I don't think any bicycle would survive that long outside.
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How about not worry about the bicycle and get a cover: Robot Check

I don't think any bicycle would survive that long outside.
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Old 08-24-14, 07:45 PM   #4
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We have two beach cruisers we've left uncovered outside for years. We pump up the tires and spray WD40 on the chains about once a month. They're rusty but both function fine.

At the marinas I work at people do the same, keeping them on deck or one of the bike racks.

The bikes run the full spectrum from Wal Mart bikes up. Ours are a Phat and an Electra.
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titanium fixie with belt drive, no gear or brake cables to rust
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I'd get some hooks and hang the bike inside. Any good bike is worth keeping indoors where it belongs.
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Provide basic cover of some sort. Or buy a folder?

I have a Raleigh that has spent most of it's life outdoors. Usually under some sort of open shelter, or locked to a bike rack or other solid object waiting for me to ride it home from work. A bike that just sits is going to fare much worse than one that gets ridden regularly, even in bad weather.

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I love my bikes. It's no sacrifice at all to carry them up a flight of stairs and across the livingroom of my apartment. Definitely get your steed a good stable.
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I don't think any bicycle would survive that long outside.
Steel bikes last outside 24/7 in coastal towns, if properly winterized.

I like aluminium 20" 3/5-speed /gates belt-drive shopper bikes for compact storage.

A BB drain hole is essential.
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once its stolen because you left it outside there will be no problems again..

I would at least build a locking secure storage shed to keep it out of sight.
which won't be movable either.. hard to do if you rent.. talk to the building Owner..

May I recommend a Folding Bike .. It will not take up much space inside your rented room..
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Steel bikes last outside 24/7 in coastal towns, if properly winterized.

I like aluminium 20" 3/5-speed /gates belt-drive shopper bikes for compact storage.

A BB drain hole is essential.
On the coast where I live...24/7 is about the life of a steel bike outside. Marine salt air eats them alive.
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On the coast where I live...24/7 is about the life of a steel bike outside. Marine salt air eats them alive.
WD40 or wax inside
Wax on outside.
My steel roadie used to get covered in salt spray, rain, grit ec with no ill effects.
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My bike stays outside the year around. We have a three sided shed and we walk the bikes into it to keep them out of direct rain.

The only real concern for me is having a dry seat. I always keep a plastic bag on the bike to cover it when it's standing outside somewhere in the rain.

If we didn't have that shed (and a locked terrace with a gate) I'd install a bike mount on the house which I would lock my bike to. These mounts are essentially a metal ring that gets bolted to your house and is more or less a permanent attachment.

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Wax on outside.
My steel roadie used to get covered in salt spray, rain, grit ec with no ill effects.
What's more interesting is that marine air (particularly with rain) reveals the dielectric differences between metals. Steel spokes/ferrules & Al rims, steel frames and Al seat posts, as well as the edges & scratches in anodized Al or steel, powder coated steel, etc. It also reveals crappy stainless steel bolts (like a stainless Allen head bolts in an Al stem, or metal fasteners in Al derailleurs, crappy chrome, etc.

To to answer the OP's question though; CF frame, bars, stem, seat post, rims, synthetic seat, enclosed chain case, internal geared hub, canti brakes (grit on discs is annoying but I like discss), anodized Al (hubs, headset, BB, etc).
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What's more interesting is that marine air (particularly with rain) reveals the dielectric differences between metals. Steel spokes/ferrules & Al rims, steel frames and Al seat posts, as well as the edges & scratches in anodized Al or steel, powder coated steel, etc. It also reveals crappy stainless steel bolts (like a stainless Allen head bolts in an Al stem, or metal fasteners in Al derailleurs, crappy chrome, etc.

To to answer the OP's question though; CF frame, bars, stem, seat post, rims, synthetic seat, enclosed chain case, internal geared hub, canti brakes (grit on discs is annoying but I like discss), anodized Al (hubs, headset, BB, etc).
Jeez, a little salt air never hurt anything.

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How about one of these? Large Horizontal Storage Shed | Outdoor Storage | Rubbermaid. I think it would easily hold 2 bikes. You might need to turn the bars, remove the pedals, or remove the front wheels.
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My bike stays outdoors all the time. I'm not happy about that, but that's life!

I have a heavy chain and lock to fasten it to a big tree. Plus pitlocks. Plus where I am is reasonably tucked out of the way. The bike looks like a wreck and probably looks almost as heavy as it actually is.

I keep a plastic bag over the leather saddle a lot of the time. It's tricky thing. I like to keep it uncovered as much as possible, to let it dry out after a sweaty ride. So then I dodge out quick when it starts to rain, or keep an eye on the forecast, etc.

Purple Extreme on the chain seems to work great!

I have a few spots of rust here & there. The brake cables have these end pieces crimped on to stop the cables from fraying. Those seem to rust a bit.

The whole ugly business does actually encourage me to get out and ride. On the one hand, that probably spreads the oil around or scrapes off the rust, whatever. But also I figure the bike has a finite lifetime so I should ride it as much as possible before it rusts away, to maximize my miles per dollar.

One of my dreams is to go full hobo, to ride around the state, the country, the continent, the world, to ride and just keep on riding. Where do these folks keep their bikes, folks that ride all over the world? I expect a lot of them just park the bike outside the tent, in the elements.

e.g. http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/pics/...ostybikes?v=29
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