I rented a bike from Wal-Mart today.
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What? No ****s???
****. I'm surprised it lasted this many pages.
****. I'm surprised it lasted this many pages.
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When LBSs learn customer service and can get off their pedestal to deal with someone that doesn't have the money to drop $1500 on a bike, I'll think about going into an LBS. When an LBS offers lifetime warranty on the frames they sell (some may do, I don't know), I'll think about looking there again. But until then, I'll continue to brush up on my mechanical skills for my own repairs, I'll continue to buy the cheap throw-away bikes Walmart sells. And I'll do so without feeling guilty that another condescending LBS owner folded.
It's all about attitude. I'd rather be left alone than blatantly and obviously ignored or told, "We don't work on those here". If you, as a shop owner, look down your nose at me, as a paying customer, you'll lose that income (as little as it may have been) and you'll never see me or my friends again.
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(For the record, it's also my job to put together grills which, as it turns out, were purchased so the one broken piece from the new owner's grill could be replaced with one from the box before the product is returned with the notation "Pieces missing. Could not assemble." No kidding.)
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Is your integrity worth more than the price of a Walmart BSO? It's still wrong. The type of people that i have seen do that are pretty shady characters...........and usually do it to get money to buy drugs.
Walmart is just good at what they do, be angry at your politicians for letting the floodgates open.
Walmart is just good at what they do, be angry at your politicians for letting the floodgates open.
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Walmart is a cancer, and its spreading. I do my best not to feed the beast, far too many people don't have any other choice.
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,,,,,,,,,, Do you remember that old Sienfeld episode?? the one that deals with diseption , and at the end George says " Remember it's not a lie if you believe it!" that's the situation here......
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So I am assuming you never buy groceries or products anywhere then??? And I assume you own no cellphones because all of them are created by 10 cent an hour labor??? I am also assuming you don't buy from Target, or Whole Foods, or Amazon or any other retailer because they also pay minimum wage and do the same practices as Walmart.
In fact, if you are a business owner, do you not negotiate the prices on your products you buy from your suppliers?
1.2 out of 1.4 million Walmart employees get health insurance through Walmart. I guarantee you the number of LBS employees who are not owners who get health insurance from the LBS is almost zero. A much higher percentage of Walmart employees get health insurance then the percentage of those working at Starbucks do.
So give me a break that Walmart is somehow this evil company... They do the exact same thing other companies do, only they are better at it.
You and your hypocrisy are therefore dismissed.
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I noticed you claim to live in China. Thus you are abusing and taking advantage of the cheap chinese labor for your own profit. You wouldn't be there otherwise. So anything and everything you say about Walmart has to be dismissed for the hypocrisy that it is.
So I am assuming you never buy groceries or products anywhere then??? And I assume you own no cellphones because all of them are created by 10 cent an hour labor??? I am also assuming you don't buy from Target, or Whole Foods, or Amazon or any other retailer because they also pay minimum wage and do the same practices as Walmart.
In fact, if you are a business owner, do you not negotiate the prices on your products you buy from your suppliers?
1.2 out of 1.4 million Walmart employees get health insurance through Walmart. I guarantee you the number of LBS employees who are not owners who get health insurance from the LBS is almost zero. A much higher percentage of Walmart employees get health insurance then the percentage of those working at Starbucks do.
So give me a break that Walmart is somehow this evil company... They do the exact same thing other companies do, only they are better at it.
You and your hypocrisy are therefore dismissed.
So I am assuming you never buy groceries or products anywhere then??? And I assume you own no cellphones because all of them are created by 10 cent an hour labor??? I am also assuming you don't buy from Target, or Whole Foods, or Amazon or any other retailer because they also pay minimum wage and do the same practices as Walmart.
In fact, if you are a business owner, do you not negotiate the prices on your products you buy from your suppliers?
1.2 out of 1.4 million Walmart employees get health insurance through Walmart. I guarantee you the number of LBS employees who are not owners who get health insurance from the LBS is almost zero. A much higher percentage of Walmart employees get health insurance then the percentage of those working at Starbucks do.
So give me a break that Walmart is somehow this evil company... They do the exact same thing other companies do, only they are better at it.
You and your hypocrisy are therefore dismissed.
Heh, funny you mention health insurance, I haven't had health insurance in years, I pay cash for all my medical expenses.
Unfortunately for you, I'm still quite healthy
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I noticed you claim to live in China. Thus you are abusing and taking advantage of the cheap chinese labor for your own profit. You wouldn't be there otherwise. So anything and everything you say about Walmart has to be dismissed for the hypocrisy that it is.
So I am assuming you never buy groceries or products anywhere then??? And I assume you own no cellphones because all of them are created by 10 cent an hour labor??? I am also assuming you don't buy from Target, or Whole Foods, or Amazon or any other retailer because they also pay minimum wage and do the same practices as Walmart.
In fact, if you are a business owner, do you not negotiate the prices on your products you buy from your suppliers?
1.2 out of 1.4 million Walmart employees get health insurance through Walmart. I guarantee you the number of LBS employees who are not owners who get health insurance from the LBS is almost zero. A much higher percentage of Walmart employees get health insurance then the percentage of those working at Starbucks do.
So give me a break that Walmart is somehow this evil company... They do the exact same thing other companies do, only they are better at it.
You and your hypocrisy are therefore dismissed.
So I am assuming you never buy groceries or products anywhere then??? And I assume you own no cellphones because all of them are created by 10 cent an hour labor??? I am also assuming you don't buy from Target, or Whole Foods, or Amazon or any other retailer because they also pay minimum wage and do the same practices as Walmart.
In fact, if you are a business owner, do you not negotiate the prices on your products you buy from your suppliers?
1.2 out of 1.4 million Walmart employees get health insurance through Walmart. I guarantee you the number of LBS employees who are not owners who get health insurance from the LBS is almost zero. A much higher percentage of Walmart employees get health insurance then the percentage of those working at Starbucks do.
So give me a break that Walmart is somehow this evil company... They do the exact same thing other companies do, only they are better at it.
You and your hypocrisy are therefore dismissed.
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,,,,, That's one reason that when I heard of the A.C.A. or Obama care, I thought it was going to be a good thing , everybody can have Insurance and be able to move around and take with them, to me it sounded like a good idea , but apparently not,, so the Insurance companies have everybody by the short hairs!,,,I pay 135.00 wkly for family coverage********** anybody pay more or less??
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,,,,, That's one reason that when I heard of the A.C.A. or Obama care, I thought it was going to be a good thing , everybody can have Insurance and be able to move around and take with them, to me it sounded like a good idea , but apparently not,, so the Insurance companies have everybody by the short hairs!,,,I pay 135.00 wkly for family coverage********** anybody pay more or less??
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#63
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62 percent of all large retailers don't even offer any health insurance of any kind to part-time employees... Guarantee you with LBS shops, it's near 100 percent that don't offer it to part time employees.
And to the other poster, there's no assumption, you are living in China to abuse Chinese labor to line your pocket. Don't claim otherwise. The fact you own a computer/smartphone is something 99.9% chinese would have to work a year just to buy. It really insults us all. Be honest about it.
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I believe we should have a system like France or England's (I was covered by the English system at one point). The problem with the American system is it is so filled with middlemen who pocket billions and doctors who order $1,000s of test all the time along with specialist referrals for almost anything more then a stuffy nose. Then the very high rate of top line drugs. They won't allow insulin to go generic for example.
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My company's health plan is considered too good by Obama Care. According to their standards its a Cadillac plan. We meet all affordability standards, but in Obama care world everyone needs to have the same crappy insurance . Fortunately we are grandfathered into our plan
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And to the other poster, there's no assumption, you are living in China to abuse Chinese labor to line your pocket. Don't claim otherwise. The fact you own a computer/smartphone is something 99.9% chinese would have to work a year just to buy. It really insults us all. Be honest about it.
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My company's health plan is considered too good by Obama Care. According to their standards its a Cadillac plan. We meet all affordability standards, but in Obama care world everyone needs to have the same crappy insurance . Fortunately we are grandfathered into our plan
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I been in the grocery business for twenty five yrs and I seen a great industry turn from a happy one to a stressed out industry ever since Walmart started selling groceries. All they want to do is put everyone else out of business. If youre making a living making A,B and selling C you can be sure Walmart has its evil eye on you and your customers. And thier customer service SUCKS!!! and thier loyal customers are freaks!!!
So Wayniac you just go right on taking advantage of that bike rental program at Wally world and be sure to piss on that bike before you return it. Since Walmart had no integrity when it came to putting thousands of mom and pop shops and other small business out of business why the hell should you?
But wait! Stop! Suppose that next bike turns out to be a keeper? It's actually welded well and Ramona put it together very well also. It's not a bad bike and decide to keep it. That's okay because bike shops are expensive. LBS owners are greedy and over charge and only buy thier groceries at Walmart anyway.
So the moral is if you hate Walmart so much why the hell are you buying your groceries there for? Because its cheaper!
Whoa....I got way off topic here! Sorry for ranting. Worlds going crazy.........
So Wayniac you just go right on taking advantage of that bike rental program at Wally world and be sure to piss on that bike before you return it. Since Walmart had no integrity when it came to putting thousands of mom and pop shops and other small business out of business why the hell should you?
But wait! Stop! Suppose that next bike turns out to be a keeper? It's actually welded well and Ramona put it together very well also. It's not a bad bike and decide to keep it. That's okay because bike shops are expensive. LBS owners are greedy and over charge and only buy thier groceries at Walmart anyway.
So the moral is if you hate Walmart so much why the hell are you buying your groceries there for? Because its cheaper!
Whoa....I got way off topic here! Sorry for ranting. Worlds going crazy.........
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interesting hypocritical statement this one. you realize the local business grocery store charging more than Wal Mart, and wal mart running them out of business is a whole heckuva lot like the local bike shop charging more, then local big box stores and online retailers putting them out of business... If bike shops charged wal mart or BD prices for their bikes, then you would get equally ****ty, horribly assembled bikes, with zero follow up service besides returns. Instead of paying a bit more to have a group of people with a wide variety of repair parts, replacement parts, warranties, local support of the bicycle infrastructure, etc...
And speaking of hypocrites ....I have a confession.
i bought my newest bike from BD! Yes its true!.. But I'm okay with it. I came into a little cash and wanted a new bike real bad with a nice new chain and a pretty crank and with a aluminum frame and carbon fork. Not to mention crystal clear reflectors. But my favorite local bike shops had nothing in my price range so contacted BD and asked a few questions....told them what models I was interested in and my measurements. ordered my Chinese bike and I have to admit I was really nervous about it. My biggest concern was the size. But Chris at BD was dead on about what frame size I should get. Now heres where I come out as a wonderful LBS customer. Before that bike even arrived I bought at regular price from my favorite LBS a new frame pump for twenty bucks and a heavy duty lock also for twenty bucks. Oh...a bottle cage too. And I'm gonna get some new tires for the bike there too. I could have bought that stuff at Walmart ('cept tires) and saved fifteen bucks but I don't like to give them my business because as you know, they screw thier employees and the community. Believe me I wanted to get my bike at the LBS but I wanted a new bike even more. And as I understand it, it's not the bikes that make the shops money...it's the accesories that have the high margin.
Guiltless!!
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You know I told my parents the same thing about them making me sweep and shovel the walks in front of thier business when I was a kid. So ya think they cheated on thier taxes too, huh?
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There are 10 LBSs within an hour's drive and NONE of them fail to pile on the obligatory haughtiness and derision for bringing them a bike to work on that wasn't purchased in *their* store. Nevermind my intention to buy accessories there. Nevermind that I was willing to pay their $80/hr for making sure the person that assembled my Walmart bike wasn't having a bad day. No, clearly I came into your store seeking abuse and a condescending attitude.
When LBSs learn customer service and can get off their pedestal to deal with someone that doesn't have the money to drop $1500 on a bike, I'll think about going into an LBS. When an LBS offers lifetime warranty on the frames they sell (some may do, I don't know), I'll think about looking there again. But until then, I'll continue to brush up on my mechanical skills for my own repairs, I'll continue to buy the cheap throw-away bikes Walmart sells. And I'll do so without feeling guilty that another condescending LBS owner folded.
It's all about attitude. I'd rather be left alone than blatantly and obviously ignored or told, "We don't work on those here". If you, as a shop owner, look down your nose at me, as a paying customer, you'll lose that income (as little as it may have been) and you'll never see me or my friends again.
When LBSs learn customer service and can get off their pedestal to deal with someone that doesn't have the money to drop $1500 on a bike, I'll think about going into an LBS. When an LBS offers lifetime warranty on the frames they sell (some may do, I don't know), I'll think about looking there again. But until then, I'll continue to brush up on my mechanical skills for my own repairs, I'll continue to buy the cheap throw-away bikes Walmart sells. And I'll do so without feeling guilty that another condescending LBS owner folded.
It's all about attitude. I'd rather be left alone than blatantly and obviously ignored or told, "We don't work on those here". If you, as a shop owner, look down your nose at me, as a paying customer, you'll lose that income (as little as it may have been) and you'll never see me or my friends again.
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I bought one of the ~$75 ones marked down quite a bit to under $50, that had the bars on backwards, cones cranked down way too tight, and a half dozen other issues. Fixed those problems and my ex wife rode it for a while until I found her a scrapyard Murray and used the WalMart one to save about $100 on parts for the rusty scrap bike. Ended up being one heck of a solid bike for her ~1.25mi each way commute while she was teaching at the local college, and let her park right at the door instead of the parking lot that was more than a quarter mile away. I'd originally left it looking like crap for theft protection, (though brand new custom laced wheels, polished drivetrain and Bontrager saddle on a rusty, beat up Murray frame looked odd) but she liked it so much she had me paint it up in John Deere green and yellow.