Are we going to need to police multi-use paths in future?
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No. Many people here are cyclists. I ride road, mountain, touring, commuting and recreational bikes. I ride on the road, on trails and on MUPs. I happen to wear bicycle specific clothing which some trolls would call a "clown suit" or "Halloween regalia" or several other rather unflattering things. But that's my choice and you have zero say in the matter.
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No wonder there is so much problems in the world when people just don't quite get what another is saying, because all they do is read between the lines or focus on a point or two and take it right out of context. Did I say that I hated roadies? Did I? I do recall saying in one post that I have respect for them.
But what we encountered on numerous occasions was these idiots dressed up in full Halloween regalia flying along these paths thinking perhaps they are out training for the Tour de France or something. I think this is totally wrong. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if people are going to get injured, if not already by these thoughtless clowns.
You don't even have the courage to stand behind what you posted. Backpedal away.
Big damn baby.
And now you're being mocked. Deservedly so.
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Exactly. I see that a lot when I stop for the salmoning dog walkers who switch from being mad at me because I'm there in the bicycling on the bike path in the first place to being really mad at me for stopping so they can go around. Maniac to idiot in a matter of seconds.
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No wonder there is so much problems in the world when people just don't quite get what another is saying, because all they do is read between the lines or focus on a point or two and take it right out of context. Did I say that I hated roadies? Did I? I do recall saying in one post that I have respect for them. I don't care whether its roadies that are riding fast in a MUP or someone riding a mountain bike. If they or anyone else is riding excessively fast in a MUP, someone can and possibly will get hurt, and it could be a child. In the case that I opened with, it was those individuals riding a road bike dressed in team regalia that were the culprits, and yes, whoever they are, roadie or mountain biker, I will pen my disdain, and I will use pronouns to describe them, like Halloween regalia. And cyccommute that dissed me for riding two abreast when he himself mentioned that he does. So its OK for him and not for me. Good grief people. There's enough hatred in the world without flogging one another here.
Pronouns aside, you can't credibly make the argument that your comment about "idiots in full Halloween regalia" was in no way meant to be a put-down of people who wear kit, and doesn't reflect at all on your attitude about them. Your whole post is dripping with contempt for those who you feel take themselves too seriously. I don't think you were exactly trying to troll...but I think you expected people to join in on your mocking of roadie types for superficial reasons and instead you are being called out for it. You weren't misunderstood, you just overshared. Better to keep such nastiness to yourself.
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I don't know if they still do this or not, but the park district said they were going to patrol this MUP. I think they were only looking for bicyclists who were not following the rules. I did see a picture of one of their employees on the safety patrol, and apparently flip flops were considered appropriate footwear and helmets were optional.
Arlington Heights Park District staff will patrol Lake Arlington path - Chicago Tribune
Arlington Heights Park District staff will patrol Lake Arlington path - Chicago Tribune
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I am surprised this thread hasn't been locked yet. Much feces slinging there is.
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It should have been removed as soon as it was started for obvious and blatant trolling.
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Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.
If he were trolling, he wouldn't have tried to defend himself after his rants had begun to provoke a response. He also didn't up the vitriol of his original insults even though they were ignored at first. He didn't begin to get slapped for those insults until what? The bottom of page 2 after several polite postings. Imagine what the immediate response would have been he had posted this thread in the Road forum ...
I think the OP is nothing more nor less than clueless about what "fast" on a bike really is, got offended by roadies rolling easy on a MUP at 16 mph and passing him without warning, not knowing that 16 mph is slow and passing without notice is learned behavior because notice causes MUP noobs to move unpredictably. So he came here - a cycling forum - and vented, throwing insults at cyclists along the way.
Heck, he's doubly clueless, ain't he? He didn't know normal, safe MUP behavior. Then he walked into the lion's den and popped off insulting the lions and was surprised they finally bit back.
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I think Hanlon's Razor is apropos here:
Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.
If he were trolling, he wouldn't have tried to defend himself after his rants had begun to provoke a response. He also didn't up the vitriol of his original insults even though they were ignored at first. He didn't begin to get slapped for those insults until what? The bottom of page 2 after several polite postings. Imagine what the immediate response would have been he had posted this thread in the Road forum ...
I think the OP is nothing more nor less than clueless about what "fast" on a bike really is, got offended by roadies rolling easy on a MUP at 16 mph and passing him without warning, not knowing that 16 mph is slow and passing without notice is learned behavior because notice causes MUP noobs to move unpredictably. So he came here - a cycling forum - and vented, throwing insults at cyclists along the way.
Heck, he's doubly clueless, ain't he? He didn't know normal, safe MUP behavior. Then he walked into the lion's den and popped off insulting the lions and was surprised they finally bit back.
Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.
If he were trolling, he wouldn't have tried to defend himself after his rants had begun to provoke a response. He also didn't up the vitriol of his original insults even though they were ignored at first. He didn't begin to get slapped for those insults until what? The bottom of page 2 after several polite postings. Imagine what the immediate response would have been he had posted this thread in the Road forum ...
I think the OP is nothing more nor less than clueless about what "fast" on a bike really is, got offended by roadies rolling easy on a MUP at 16 mph and passing him without warning, not knowing that 16 mph is slow and passing without notice is learned behavior because notice causes MUP noobs to move unpredictably. So he came here - a cycling forum - and vented, throwing insults at cyclists along the way.
Heck, he's doubly clueless, ain't he? He didn't know normal, safe MUP behavior. Then he walked into the lion's den and popped off insulting the lions and was surprised they finally bit back.
But he does have a track-record of criticising people who wear cycling-specific attire which leads me to believe that part was inserted deliberately.
He'd have been torn to shreds by the third post if he'd posted in Road.
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Policing MUP? Police are going to do what on MUP ? Enforce a non existing speed limit ? Enforce a 3.45 foot buffer in order to pass if going 7.95MPH higher then overtaken biker, roller bladder, runner, walker, wheelchair user, birder, horse rider, . . . .
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There are lots of different behavior on the MUPs that various types of users find annoying and inconsiderate. I think everyone can agree that the REAL dangerous people on the MUPs are the idiots who try to text and bike at the same time. There have been at least 10 times in the last few years that I've been forced off the trail and/or run into because some idiot was trying text while cycling and lost control.
If I get chastised for calling people who text while biking "idiots" then so be it.
If I get chastised for calling people who text while biking "idiots" then so be it.
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Been there, done that. LOL.
But that was up at Venice Beach where the path winds around. Kid ran in front of me, I went off the path and endo'd right into a palm tree. Good thing I was going about 4 mph. I was surprised I endo'd, as was the guy I landed next to. We were both laughing at my "slow-mo end-oh".
But that was up at Venice Beach where the path winds around. Kid ran in front of me, I went off the path and endo'd right into a palm tree. Good thing I was going about 4 mph. I was surprised I endo'd, as was the guy I landed next to. We were both laughing at my "slow-mo end-oh".
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Busy MUPS are a cluster Bleep. Always have been always will be. We all know that going in, ride accordingly. As bad as they can be sometimes it is nice to not have to deal with even crazier traffic. Better a MUP that is a zoo than no MUP at all.
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When the stronger riders grow up and get their wings, they'll be out on the road and won't bother you any more.
Why were they wearing Halloween costumes in November? Was this some sort of parade?
Why were they wearing Halloween costumes in November? Was this some sort of parade?
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What shall we do with their ilk?
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Actually, the main MUP in my area does have an official speed limit, rules about who is supposed to yield to whom, etc. In theory, officials of the park agency which manages the trail could observe bad behavior and educated people about proper trail use.
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And don't leave out the teenage boys on those two wheeled skateboard looking things, where they weave back and forth across the whole path, while keeping their ears packed with the ear buds. I came up on one of those last week. He luckily stopped for a second to readjust his buds when I had a chance to yell at him as I passed. If he was like me when I was that age, the quick yell did not do any good.
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Which main MUP in your area has an official speed limit or special rules?
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^ no. Syrian refugees can only walk on MUPs so that we can keep track of them.
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