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Old 04-08-05, 12:01 PM   #1
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On Guard Locks

I just went out to buy a new kryptonite lock, and while the store was sold out, the guy told me that On Guard Locks are actually better because they have to adhere to European standards not just American, meaning that both sides of the U lock in as opposed to only 1 side on Kryptonites. I was just wondering if anyone had any experience with these locks? The ON Guard Lock was only $30 while the Krypto counterpart was $50 so I dont believe the guy was just trying to sell me. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
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Old 04-08-05, 12:25 PM   #2
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The ones I've seen are really, really nice.
OnGuard's parent company is Topeak, whose products always seem to be well thought out and of good quality.
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Old 04-08-05, 12:26 PM   #3
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I've had no problems with mine although the keys are a weak spot. They have a tendacy to break off in the lock. On the other hand they give you 5 keys. Just make sure you get the key all the way in before you turn. A little graphite and you are good to go.
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I've had no problems with mine although the keys are a weak spot. They have a tendacy to break off in the lock. On the other hand they give you 5 keys. Just make sure you get the key all the way in before you turn. A little graphite and you are good to go.

this actually happened to me and my NEWLY SHIPPED krypto mini. locked it up, left, came back, turned it and it broke off really easily. i'm not the strongest guy in the world, but it felt like plastic as it broke. i was hoping the onguards wouldn't have this problem, but it looks like i'm gonna get a combo lock now- i suggest others do the same.
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I haven't had a problem with the On Guard (I have a Brute mini). The keys could be snapped off if you're in a rush, I suppose. They're certainly not as robust as a circular key.
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For what it's worth, Abus makes very strong locks with high quality keys that won't snap off or break. They also conform to European standards as they are made in Germany.

http://www.abus.com
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I bought some Abus and OnGuard locks when the krypto key thing hit. The OnGuard locks are nice, but IMO, the Abus locks, at least the higher end models that are made in Germany, have a better fit, finish and feel than the OnGuard locks. You'll pay more for a high-end Abus lock than you will for a high-end OnGuard, though. I have had no problem with keys snapping, and both the Abus and OnGuard lock cylinders have more tumblers in them than the new kryptos (more is better in this case). Some people started another thread in Safety and Advocacy about plastic parts breaking off some OnGuard models, but I personally haven't had this problem either. Squier is another brand that is worth a look. They are a British company, and were supposed to be setting up a US distribution / dealer network, but I don't know what the status of that is currently.
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OnGuard mini u-lock is pretty beefy. Bigger than my mini Krypto U, which makes it pretty difficult to carry in your back pocket. Other than the size, better than the Krypto in quality.
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The onguard mini-pitbull fits fine in carhartts and BDUs. The onguard mini-brute, however, doesn't fit very well.
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I should add that I've never actually broke a key, you just need to be careful
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