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    Bush's ipod tunes when he's MBing

    from today's NYTimes:

    Between his return on Friday from Pope John Paul II's funeral in Rome and his meeting today with Prime Minister Ariel Sharon of Israel, President Bush spent an hour and a half on Saturday on an 18-mile mountain bike ride at his Texas ranch. With him, as usual, was his indispensable new exercise toy: an iPod music player loaded with country and popular rock tunes aimed at getting the presidential heart rate up to a chest-pounding 170 beats per minute.

    Which brings up the inevitable question. What, exactly, is on the First iPod? In an era of celebrity playlists - Tom Brady, the New England Patriots quarterback, recently posted his on the iTunes online music store - what does the presidential selection of downloaded songs tell us about Mr. Bush?

    First, Mr. Bush's iPod is heavy on traditional country singers like George Jones, Alan Jackson and Kenny Chesney. He has selections by Van Morrison, whose "Brown Eyed Girl" is a Bush favorite, and by John Fogerty, most predictably "Centerfield," which was played at Texas Rangers games when Mr. Bush was an owner and is still played at ballparks all over America. ("Oh, put me in coach, I'm ready to play today.")

    The president also has an eclectic mix of songs downloaded into his iPod from Mark McKinnon, a biking buddy and his chief media strategist during the 2004 campaign. Among them are "Circle Back" by John Hiatt, "(You're So Square) Baby, I Don't Care" by Joni Mitchell and "My Sharona," the 1979 song by the Knack that Joe Levy, a deputy managing editor at Rolling Stone in charge of music coverage, cheerfully branded "suggestive if not outright filthy" in an interview last week.

    Mr. Bush has had his Apple iPod since July, when he received it from his twin daughters as a birthday gift. He has some 250 songs on it, a paltry number compared to the 10,000 selections it can hold. Mr. Bush, as leader of the free world, does not take the time to download the music himself; that task falls to his personal aide, Blake Gottesman, who buys individual songs and albums, including Mr. Jones's and Mr. Jackson's greatest hits, from the iTunes music store.

    Mr. Bush uses his iPod chiefly during bike workouts to help him pump up his heartbeat, which he monitors with a wrist strap. The strap also keeps track of calories expended for the intensely weight-focused president, who has recently lost eight pounds after eating a lot of doughnuts during the 2004 campaign. Mr. Bush burned 1,300 calories on his bike ride on Saturday, Mr. McKinnon reported.

    As for an analysis of Mr. Bush's playlist, Mr. Levy of Rolling Stone started out with this: "One thing that's interesting is that the president likes artists who don't like him."

    Mr. Levy was referring to Mr. Fogerty, who was part of the anti-Bush "Vote for Change" concert tour across the United States last fall. Mr. McKinnon, who once wrote songs for Kris Kristofferson's music publishing company, responded in an e-mail message that "if any president limited his music selection to pro-establishment musicians, it would be a pretty slim collection."

    Nonetheless, Mr. McKinnon said that Mr. Bush had not gone so far as to include on his playlist "Fortunate Son," the angry anti-Vietnam war song about who has to go to war that Mr. Fogerty sang when he was with Creedence Clearwater Revival. ("I ain't no senator's son ... Some folks are born silver spoon in hand.") As the son of a two-term congressman and a United States Senate candidate, Mr. Bush won a coveted spot with the Texas Air National Guard to avoid combat in Vietnam.

    Meanwhile, Mr. Levy sized up the rest of the playlist of the 58-year-old president. "What we're talking about is a lot of great artists from the 60's and 70's and more modern artists who sound like great artists from the 60's and 70's," he said. "This is basically boomer rock 'n' roll and more recent music out of Nashville made for boomers. It's safe, it's reliable, it's loving. What I mean to say is, it's feel-good music. The Sex Pistols it's not."

    Mr. Jones, Mr. Levy said, was nonetheless an interesting choice. "George Jones is the greatest living singer in country music and a recovering alcoholic who often sings about heartbreak and drinking," he said. "It tells you that the president knows a thing or two about country music and is serious about his love of country music."

    The songs by Mr. Jackson indicate that the president "has a little bit of a taste for hard core and *****-tonk," Mr. Levy said, adding that both Mr. Jackson and Mr. Jones "are not about cute and pop, and they're not getting by on their looks." And while Mr. Chesney "is about cute and pop and gets by on his looks," Mr. Levy said, "he's also all about serious country music."

    Mr. McKinnon, who has downloaded "Castanets" by Alejandro Escovedo and "Alive 'N' Kickin' " by Kenny Loggins into Mr. Bush's iPod, said that sometimes a presidential playlist is just a playlist, nothing more.

    "No one should psychoanalyze the song selection," Mr. McKinnon said. "It's music to get over the next hill."

    sampling from President Bush's iPod; some songs were selected by Mark McKinnon, the chief media strategist in the 2004 campaign:

    John Fogerty, "Centerfield"

    Van Morrison, "New Biography," "Brown Eyed Girl"

    John Hiatt, "Circle Back"

    Alan Jackson

    George Jones

    Alejandro Escovedo, "Castanets" Joni Mitchell, "(You're So Square) Baby, I Don't Care"

    The Gourds, "El Paso"

    Blackie and the Rodeo Kings, "Swinging From the Chains of Love"

    Stevie Ray Vaughan, "The House is Rockin' "

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    James McMurtry, "Valley Road"

    The Thrills, "Say It Ain't So" The Knack, "My Sharona"

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    Burning 1300 calories in 18 miles? Is the whole ride up a 20% grade?
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    So are those all legal MP3s?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pharnabazos
    from today's NYTimes:

    Stevie Ray Vaughan, "The House is Rockin' "

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    James McMurtry, "Valley Road"

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    I haven't heard of the Advertisement before. Must be one of those new groups the kids listen too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by genec
    So are those all legal MP3s?
    Maybe *that's* why he gets his personal aide to do it for him--

    "Mr. Bush, as leader of the free world, does not take the time to download the music himself"

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    Quote Originally Posted by genec
    So are those all legal MP3s?
    It says in the article that an aide downloads them for him and they are paid for.It says so in the 5th paragraph.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rev.Chuck
    Burning 1300 calories in 18 miles? Is the whole ride up a 20% grade?
    18 miles in an hour and a half.

    According to caloriesperhour.com

    Male 58, 6', 170 lb: BMI=23.1 BMR=1,649 RMR=1,629
    Bicycling - 16-19 mph (very vigorous)
    1,388 calories in 1 hr 30 min

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    Sounds kind of boring. What would have been on Clinton's iPod?

    Hmmm....or if you want something even more boring, how about Al Gore's?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DXchulo
    Sounds kind of boring. What would have been on Clinton's iPod?

    Hmmm....or if you want something even more boring, how about Al Gore's?
    Clinton? Sir-mix-alot - baby got back.
    Gore? Audio books.

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    he's an alien!!! a very country one!!
    Merton, you're a genius. I've been a professional editor for more years than you've been alive, and you say more in fewer words than anyone I know. And I know a lot of people with Ph.Ds

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rev.Chuck
    Burning 1300 calories in 18 miles? Is the whole ride up a 20% grade?
    That was using the Republican formula. I think Bush's Ipod selection is probably all Toby Keith all of the Time. You know.....

    1. I'll put a boot in yer ass.

    2. Ford Trucks and High Gas Prices, The American Way.

    3. Wish I didn't Know now what I didn't Know Then. (WMD)

    4. A little less talk and a lot more arrogance.

    5. Shoulda been a Cowboy. Oh wait I am a cowboy. Should have been a president.

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    What? No Steve Earle?
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    Figures he'd miss the point of offroading entirely

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    Why is this in the news?!?

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    I saw it in the news and after the story the guy hinted that it was a sloooooow news day.
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    "Bush's ipod tunes when he's MBing"

    and I care about this why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lotek
    "Bush's ipod tunes when he's MBing"

    and I care about this why?
    I dunno, you clicked on the link

    I didn't. I just thought the 'presidential pulse up to a heart-pounding 170 BPM', etc. was amusing, and the general topic of Bush's mountain biking. I also couldn't believe this was in the Washington Journal of the NYT.

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    It's great that we have a president that bikes, but for christ's sake he needs to ditch those pedals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by samundsen
    [IM]http://gfx.dagbladet.no/pub/artikkel/4/42/428/428663/ipodbush280.jpg[/IMG]
    Can we say posed photo op?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiyn
    Can we say posed photo op?
    You mean flag poles don't spring out of the ground in his wake?
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    Quote Originally Posted by djbrod
    You mean flag poles don't spring out of the ground in his wake?
    I could say something but this is a family website

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    Geezum! Talk about cranial rectosis!

    We are looking at an athletic, bicycling President, who can hack an 18 mile ride in an hour and a half? The man is no slouch, and his physical fitness is an ideal role model for the country, and particularly, other men his age. As a 50 + bicyclist, I well understand the President's attraction to cycling. It is a great workout, and a heck of a lot easier on the knees than running.

    So it's time to extract heads from the rectum, boys and girls, lest we fail to realize a grand opportunity to lobby for things favorable to bicycling nationwide.

    GWB is not a complex man. When he says to a dictator, "I am coming to kick your behind," that dictator can soon expect to see the tanks coming over the hill. But whether one agrees or disagrees with him at any point, or every point, it remains that GWB can make things happen.

    So can you imagine what might happen if he said, "I want a nationwide network of bicycling trails and paths for fitness, recreation, and touring?"

    I'm proud he owns an iPod (I don't), but iPod or not, his newfound passion is an opportunity we need to view for what it can mean to all of us, rather than as something else to be used as fodder for political bantering.

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