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June 3--Udder Century--Union, IL

Old 05-31-07, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Psimet2001
...oh and just to prove I do actually pull sometimes....
Psimet has two styles of pulling that I've seen.
1.) An excellent ride leader, setting a nice even pace that the entire group can enjoy.
2.) Dropping himself. That is pulling so hard that once he swings off he can't keep up with whats left of group he just shattered.
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Originally Posted by Psimet2001
People tend to jump out of line and accelerate into the front in order to take a pull. I'd be happy if we could get that to stop.
And then there's those who take a pull for minutes on end into a crazy headwind, but refuse to peel off to rotate back, thus leading to someone bombing to the front to take the point....

Yeah, we're a regular Team Time Trial disaster!
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I checked my Garmin for last years Northshore Century and I see that I averaged 18.8 mph over 125 miles.
16.5mph for the first 104 miles and 41 mph for the last 21 mile drive home. I guess I left the unit on in my car.
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Paceline -- you can either count pedal strokes (your pull is X amount of cranks) or, pull by time (15, 20 . . . seconds). Everyone gets a chance then to take a pull and nobody stays out front too long. If someone on their pull "rockets" off the front, the second place person should let them go and keep the pace set by the group. I hope we all have computers, glance down at the pace before its your turn and maintain it. If you can't keep the pace up, simply pull off. If you'd like to speed things up -- do it gradually, or you splinter the group.

Another paceline technique is to just keep rotating, with one leg being the "drive" side and the other the rest. Which is fun with big groups !

Relax, it will be fun!
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Originally Posted by CyLowe97
And then there's those who take a pull for minutes on end into a crazy headwind, but refuse to peel off to rotate back, thus leading to someone bombing to the front to take the point....

Yeah, we're a regular Team Time Trial disaster!
i missed the part where everyone was just begging and jumping to get up front into that crazy headwind. of course, when you are in front you do miss those things. wait, was your statement hypothetical?

seriously, we ride, we pull, Psi and Cy tell us what to do and when to do it, and we have a great time. its relaxed. dont let the internet sarcasim fool you.

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Hopefully my new jersey shows up tomorrow, I am hoping it helps me gain a little speed. It looks like it should.
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Old 05-31-07, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by shider
Psimet has two styles of pulling that I've seen.
1.) An excellent ride leader, setting a nice even pace that the entire group can enjoy.
2.) Dropping himself. That is pulling so hard that once he swings off he can't keep up with whats left of group he just shattered.
1) Thank you.
2) Guilty.
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Originally Posted by Psimet2001
We do have a bad habit of not just pulling off on the inbound wind side and just letting the second rider just maintain and pull through.
I actually thought pulling involved a rope! Not really, ha.

I was with you all the way on your explanation except for the part about the "inbound wind side". I'm happy to let shider and aham23 have the rope! I do like understanding how things are supposed to work. Whether I really ever do it is another matter. Watching pacelines...it looks cool and fun.

Did you ride in a formal/informal paceline for all or part of RAIN? I was mainly alone and I would have loved to been with a group. That is a long dang way to be alone. I did hang onto the back of some groups of guys but would eventually drop off because I felt sort of bad just hanging onto the back. Like I was cheating! You don't have to answer this now; we can discuss it on Sunday. We'll be out there a while with time to chat.

BTW, I've already learned a lot just reading your replies and the "internet sarcasm" makes it all the more fun

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Originally Posted by SmokinMiles
Did you ride formal/informall
Oh man! I didn't read anything in the brochure about dress code
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Considering

Very seriously considering it....
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I'll get a separate dress code thread going. I mean when you're riding the Udder, you gotta dress the part.
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BTW - just as a reminder....the last leg of this ride has some steady climbing and is usually into the wind. I checked the cue sheet for this year and it is the same route. So....you have that to look forward to.
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Maps & Cue Sheets for all routes
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Originally Posted by Psimet2001
BTW - just as a reminder....the last leg of this ride has some steady climbing and is usually into the wind. I checked the cue sheet for this year and it is the same route. So....you have that to look forward to.
This is good news. This year I really struggle (relatively) to keep up with my normal group going downwind or on the flats. Whenever the road turns up and into the wind I come into my own. Having said that, I'll probably bonk just about that point in time...
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Well it looks like there might be some scattered storms, but at least the wind looks to be in check.
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There's still a slim chance I may be able to make it. What time is everyone meeting? I seemed to have skimmed past that.
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I believe Roll Out is at 7:00AM.
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Here's the original timing that was brought up. So looks like 7 rollout. The line is long for registration from what I remember.

Originally Posted by CyLowe97 aka Horse's Mouth
<snip> Last year it was 6:45 meet up, 7 am roll out.

We met up near the entrance to the registration and Psimet had a handy forums sign. Perhaps he'll bring another sign along this year?
Oh and I will have a sign....need to design one though....I've already done A-Team and "Training for Wussy"....hmm....
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More than 15 minutes long? I did not register yet and plan on being there by 6:45.
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Originally Posted by Kenal0
More than 15 minutes long? I did not register yet and plan on being there by 6:45.
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Don't think so. I know I showed up early last year and there were probably 40-50 people in front of me. Have your waiver filled out (print it out online) before going. The line took a while, but <10 minutes I'm sure.

Edit: They have a picture of the line at 6:45 last year on the site:

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Originally Posted by aham23
^^^^ yeah i need Signal11. he dragged me home last year! later.
I hope you guys have a great ride tomorrow! Unfortunately, I'm not going to be able to make it out there for this ride. Just got back from a grueling two weeks of business travel (no biking) and I'm completely wiped.
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I was starting to get worried about rain. I noticed that weather.com has it at 40% about mid ride. Then I noticed that when I put "Udder Century" into google (to find the site and print the waiver) the third result down on Google was last year's archived thread starting with "As I told Psimet..."

Link: https://www.bikeforums.net/archive/in.../t-198546.html

If you read that one you'll see that weather.com estimated the same 40% chance last year. Never rained. I'll have to wear a RAIN jersey to help ensure the same result though....
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Originally Posted by Psimet2001
I was starting to get worried about rain. I noticed that weather.com has it at 40% about mid ride. Then I noticed that when I put "Udder Century" into google (to find the site and print the waiver) the third result down on Google was last year's archived thread starting with "As I told Psimet..."

Link: https://www.bikeforums.net/archive/in.../t-198546.html

If you read that one you'll see that weather.com estimated the same 40% chance last year. Never rained. I'll have to wear a RAIN jersey to help ensure the same result though....
Don't tempt the gods Psimet. If it isn't raining, will see you all there tomorrow morning.
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See everyone at the start.
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No rain, I am on my way.
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