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    Who's up for a tour of Cleveland?

    I made this route. I haven't biked the whole thing at once (planning that soon, had a busted hand) but have ridden most parts of it at different times.

    I'd like an opinion from those in NEO. Also I'd like to see who's up for a social ride. 'bout 14-15 mph?

    Link: http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path...Cleveland-44mi
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    Most of your route looks good, except for the section along Euclid Ave. I don't like to drive through that section of Cleveland, let alone ride a bike.

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    Didn't we ride along Euclid Ave? Scott?

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    Looks like a great early Sunday morning tour, I'd be interested. That Euclid section is bike laned the entire way now. A flawed lane at times, but as it gets a fair amount of use I guess a net positive. If you're referring to the criminal element, I doubt a pack of bicycles will arouse much interest beyond pity.
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    Thanks for the positive comments! I considered bypassing the Euclid Corridor but it's a brand new stretch of road with a bike lane the whole way. I figure a group of riders would be a little big to pick off for criminals.

    I avoided Lorain for that reason. But to be fair, I'm not nearly as familiar with it so pardon my ignorance if I'm wrong.

    I tried to make the route as interesting or scenic as possible (rocky river valley, shaker lakes) or with the best roads (w.165/woodward, Lee Rd.)

    I know there are a lot of group and club rides coming up in July but I'd really like to do this one. I think it would be a great social ride and I really think Cleveland has some of the best urban riding around.

    I have another route that's almost identical but without the last loop.
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    I can't really comment much on most of the route, but I do regularly bike commute into the University Circle area from the east. While Mayfield Rd would probably be perfectly fine on a Sunday morning and biking through Little Italy can be fun, I generally try avoid that route. Perhaps you could consider heading south on Coventry and west on Euclid Heights before bearing slightly right onto Edgehill and going down that hill and across the newly finished Cornell bridge (I think it should be open very soon). Cornell takes you past University Hospitals and you catch Euclid Ave. at a light. Just be careful descending Edgehill as there is a traffic light at the bottom as you come around the turn.

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    I actually live in Little Italy so I'm very familiar with the area. I picked mayfield mostly because of the screamer that Mayfield Rd is going down into the neighborhood.

    I considered the Kenilworth and Edgehill because of the nice pavement on Kenilworth but Edgehill is aweful with some potholes that could really hurt somebody if they're not noticed in time. They're so bad you'll break your car too (ask me how I know ). They've also cut rumble strips into the pavement approaching the curve that might be a problem at speed. The road also crosses a brick road at the bottom which is a problem on narrow tires at any speed.

    I think there's still a month or two left on that Cornell bridge too but I'm not positive on that.

    There's really only 3 viable ways down from the Heights plateau, Mayfield, Edgehill, or Cedar. The last one I planned for the way up.

    I was also hoping to take a route through the cemetary but after a call to their office I found out that wasn't an option. They have taken for consideration my suggestion for allowing group rides that pre-register or notify them of passing through.
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    Quote Originally Posted by half_bent View Post
    Most of your route looks good, except for the section along Euclid Ave. I don't like to drive through that section of Cleveland, let alone ride a bike.
    This area is a great incentive to really get your RPM,s up there but if you get dropped,it could be permanent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spry View Post
    This area is a great incentive to really get your RPM,s up there but if you get dropped,it could be permanent.
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    yea mitch and i did some of that route last year, we went down euclid during the weekday. It was fine.



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    between case and which bike path?
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    going through mlk blvd.

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    mlk is isolated enough from the surrounding areas that it's nothing. the more southern part after it crosses e. 105 is similar. once you cross 105th you leave university circle, but rockefeller park is a beautiful channel to the lake that's set in a valley away from the urban blight.

    but it's just that, blight. it's not a bad neighborhood or anything. just because they're black doesn't mean they're going to rob you. they're just poor there. it's the same thing as a poor italian neighborhood or a poor irish neighborhood.

    most of the time on mlk you're right next to the museums and well maintained areas and those large groups on sudays of darker folk that gather at the lake in the park near 105 arent concerned about you. they're there to use the park just like you.

    even down euclid ave folks don't bother you unless you're being an ass. you want to be scared? try coit and 152nd. that's where you don't stop at stop signs because you'll get jacked.

    have you even ridden mlk? it's wonderful!

    i'm sick of people from the burbs being scared of the inner city. inner city doesn't mean bad, just closer to the middle. i'll chalk it up to you living in parma.


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    yep.

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    Euclid is fine. In fact, it's my preferred cross-town route. The bike and bus lanes make it rather in-hospitable to cars, which is great! Expect it to be mostly deserted between the Clinic & Downtown - particularly on a weekend.

    On the near west side, I'd recommend staying on Franklin Blvd from W 25th all the way to W 85th. It's a little more scenic than Detroit, and has crazy sharrows most of the way.

    You can also hang a left onto W 110th from Detroit to travel through Lakewood. W 110th quickly turns into Franklin, which is again a tad bit nicer than Detroit Ave. Less traffic and buses on Franklin.

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    i completely forgot how nice franklin is along that stretch! i haven't driven that way since high school. that part is actually on the return leg. i picked detroit for the lakewood section just because it goes right through the middle where a lot of the interesting stuff is.

    ill change the route for franklin from 85th to 25th
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    Quote Originally Posted by michaelwc View Post
    i completely forgot how nice franklin is along that stretch! i haven't driven that way since high school. that part is actually on the return leg. i picked detroit for the lakewood section just because it goes right through the middle where a lot of the interesting stuff is.

    ill change the route for franklin from 85th to 25th
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    Benedictine actually...
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    Sounds like a good route. I haven't been to some of those areas in a few years...should I ride my road bike or my beater xcross?
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    i think either would be fun. it's all paved road. there are a few places of bad pavement but nothing bone-jarring and unavoidable with tires.

    check the elevation profile and decide on your gearing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by michaelwc View Post
    i think either would be fun. it's all paved road. there are a few places of bad pavement but nothing bone-jarring and unavoidable with tires.

    check the elevation profile and decide on your gearing.
    "Let us hope our weapons are never needed --but do not forget what the common people knew when they demanded the Bill of Rights: An armed citizenry is the first defense, the best defense, and the final defense against tyranny. If guns are outlawed, only the government will have guns. Only the police, the secret police, the military, the hired servants of our rulers. Only the government -- and a few outlaws. I intend to be among the outlaws" - Edward Abbey

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    wut?
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    As always, I am up for it. Halfbent, Ben and I rode the route you planned a few weeks back, very nice!
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    Quote Originally Posted by michaelwc View Post
    wut?
    The thought of needing to worry about gearing for a tour of Cleveland tickled my funny bone.
    "Let us hope our weapons are never needed --but do not forget what the common people knew when they demanded the Bill of Rights: An armed citizenry is the first defense, the best defense, and the final defense against tyranny. If guns are outlawed, only the government will have guns. Only the police, the secret police, the military, the hired servants of our rulers. Only the government -- and a few outlaws. I intend to be among the outlaws" - Edward Abbey

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